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Question: The Federal Government budget for 2026 is

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Really? I have to start the budget discussion? (Read 1321 times)
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Reply #45 - May 16th, 2026 at 1:24pm
 
So let's recap.

The budget -

Is going to repeal the pre-1985 assets safety net for CGT
Is going to repeal the 50% discount on CGT
Is going to initiate indexation for CGT (start date not included) Wink
Is going to tax trusts at 30%, which is what it does now, but the CGT foregone discounts will increase the pot, hugely.
Is going to implement death duties by stealth, if not by name, with beneficiaries liable for 30% tax if a testamentary trust is a discretionary trust.

These ans other things will of course depend on the final legislative wording. Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - May 16th, 2026 at 1:46pm
 
lee wrote on May 16th, 2026 at 1:24pm:
So let's recap.

The budget -

Is going to repeal the pre-1985 assets safety net for CGT
Is going to repeal the 50% discount on CGT
Is going to initiate indexation for CGT (start date not included) Wink
Is going to tax trusts at 30%, which is what it does now, but the CGT foregone discounts will increase the pot, hugely.
Is going to implement death duties by stealth, if not by name, with beneficiaries liable for 30% tax if a testamentary trust is a discretionary trust.

These ans other things will of course depend on the final legislative wording. Roll Eyes

lee wrote on May 16th, 2026 at 1:39pm:
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Reply #47 - May 16th, 2026 at 3:35pm
 
Imagine if they didn't buy the nuclear submarines.  Which all started under the coalition government.  Now how much was it again?.   Sad   
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Reply #48 - May 16th, 2026 at 4:32pm
 
whiteknight wrote on May 16th, 2026 at 3:35pm:
Imagine if they didn't buy the nuclear submarines.



Imagine if we didn't have a defence force. Roll Eyes
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Reply #49 - May 16th, 2026 at 4:44pm
 
Yes but we do have a defence force, but do we need nuclear submarines?.   Sad   
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Reply #50 - May 16th, 2026 at 5:00pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 12:30am:
What is required is ACTION - starting with chopping mass immigration and stabilising costs of living and prospering for Australians,


OK - good start, now let's see if you can identify how to achieve that, after limiting immigration to match house builds - Taylor's  ONE good policy among all the ideological nonsense re taxation.

How do you stabilize c-o-l and achieve prosperity for all Australians?

Over to you.....


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Way back Gough Whitlam's government fell over the sum of $4 Bn to 'buy back ownership of resources and convert them into a sovereign fund for all Australians owned and operated by Australians'...


Interestingly, Saudi Arabia and Qatar became prosperous by buying back their own resources from foreign-owned companies; Oz should do the same with its vast reserves of 'NW-shelf' gas.



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Reply #51 - May 16th, 2026 at 5:07pm
 
lee wrote on May 16th, 2026 at 1:24pm:
So let's recap.

The budget -

Is going to repeal the pre-1985 assets safety net for CGT
Is going to repeal the 50% discount on CGT
Is going to initiate indexation for CGT (start date not included) Wink
Is going to tax trusts at 30%, which is what it does now, but the CGT foregone discounts will increase the pot, hugely.
Is going to implement death duties by stealth, if not by name, with beneficiaries liable for 30% tax if a testamentary trust is a discretionary trust.

These ans other things will of course depend on the final legislative wording. Roll Eyes


Yes, so the eternal fights over tax continue, while democracies are foundering around the world.

The alternative:

https://ellenbrown.com/2026/05/11/the-abundance-paradigm-why-ai-forces-a-rethink...

THE ABUNDANCE PARADIGM: WHY AI FORCES A RETHINKING OF MONEY ITSELF — PART 1

and

https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/

Note: public money, not 'taxpayer money'; the disputes re taxation among 'experts' must cease, if we are to safely house everyone regardless of income.   
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Reply #52 - May 16th, 2026 at 5:57pm
 
AI forces a re-think?  AI does nothing beyond what has been programmed. AI does not think for itself. Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - Yesterday at 5:19pm
 
Ah! The good old "Australian Way" strikes again.

This mould-ridden rental was on the market for $900 a week. Then Jim Chalmers got up to deliver his 'housing' Budget - and the rent shot up by a staggering $450 OVERNIGHT

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A Sydney rental property with mouldy carpets and walls saw its advertised rent suddenly increase by $450 a week after the Federal Budget was revealed.

Treasurer Jim Chalmers announced landmark reforms to property taxes in the Budget on Tuesday, including major changes to negative gearing.

Landlords were previously able to offset investment losses against their income, sometimes pushing them into lower tax brackets. Under the reforms, anyone who buys property after Budget night will not be able to claim these deductions.

Investors who owned property before May 12 are exempt and can still negatively gear investments. Treasury said the reform will see rents rise by $2 per week, on average.


"$2 per week, on average"  Grin

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HOME 288 real estate agent Nancy Deng told the Daily Mail the Lindfield property has now been removed from the rental market, but she didn't know why.


Yeah, I wonder why?

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Ms Deng said renovations had triggered the dramatic rent rise.

'The owner has renovated,' she said on Friday. 'I don't know what the renovations were.'


Perhaps you should stop counting your steadily increasing commission and get your lazy @ss out of the office and take a look?

And, I'm betting there's many, many more dumps like that.

Oh, and...

Revealed: The FURIOUS groupchat messages of angry landlords plotting to make renters pay more after Labor’s Budget blow

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Wealthy landlords have vowed to raise rents for struggling tenants after the Budget's sweeping changes to property taxes, even if the reforms don't affect them.


Greed, greed, greed. As usual. All while lots of people (including whole families) are living on the streets and in cars, etc.

Disgraceful stuff.
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Reply #54 - Yesterday at 6:27pm
 
I just don’t believe that this country is going anywhere.

Attacking people who are trying to get ahead via investments or running a small business doesn’t make sense to myself.

Not everyone wants to be a public servant but more than half the workforce in Australia are.

We need to promote independent business and importantly local manufacturers.

Even if it cost myself a little more.

I see no alternative in anal Taylor.

It saddens me but I understand the rise of one nation.

A economy built around the public service is a economy built on as a house of cards?
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After weeks of poor press regarding Albo ( and Scomo) poor management of fuel reserves and desperate for a major distraction.
Federal Police arrest Ben ( war criminal) Smith.
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Reply #55 - Yesterday at 9:59pm
 
Newspoll: Jim Chalmers and Anthony Albanese’s budget flops with every generation of voters


A special post-budget Newspoll reveals Jim Chalmers has handed down the most unpopular budget since 1993 and eclipsed the visceral reaction to Joe Hockey’s austerity budget of 2014.
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Jim Chalmers and Anthony ­Albanese’s big-taxing budget has been rated the worst for the economy since 1993, with younger Australians unconvinced that Labor’s new measures will reduce inflation or deliver on ­intergenerational equity and housing.

A special post-budget News­poll commissioned by The Australian – which includes core budget questions that have been asked over decades – shows voters believe this year’s budget will have a more savage impact than Joe Hockey’s controversial austerity drive in 2014.

Despite more Australians ­believing last week’s budget will be bad for the economy and make them worse off, Labor’s primary vote remained static at 31 per cent, with the Coalition dropping a point to 20 per cent and One Nation jumping from 24 per cent to 27 per cent following David Farley’s victory in the Farrer by-election.

As the Prime Minister and the Treasurer sell the budget as the nation’s best opportunity to solve the housing crisis, News­poll reveals 47 per cent of Australians believe the “budget is driving a wedge between younger and older generations”, and 60 per cent think Labor’s housing measures are “a step in the wrong direction” or “will make no difference”.

After the Treasurer last week used his budget to break election promises and crack down on negative gearing, capital gains tax discounts and trusts, Dr Chalmers and Mr Albanese will travel the nation this week to sell one of the most poorly received budget in nearly 33 years.

The Newspoll, conducted ­between Thursday and Sunday, found 47 per cent of voters ­believe the budget will be bad for the Australian economy compared with 22 per cent who said it would be good.

The minus 25 net approval rating for Dr Chalmers’ fifth budget compares with the minus nine rating that was recorded following the Abbott government’s controversial austerity budget (39 per cent good versus 48 per cent bad) in 2014.

The 1993 budget handed down by the Keating government is considered the worst in Newspoll history, after Paul Keating broke core election promises headlined by abandoning the infamous “L-A-W” tax cuts and increasing taxes.

That Labor budget, prepared by then-treasurer John Dawkins, received a record minus 42 ranking, with 62 per cent saying it would be bad for the economy compared with 20 per cent who said it would be good.

Newspoll, which included a sample size of 1252 voters, revealed there was no cohort across all demographics, including among Labor voters, where more people expected to be better off than worse off in the wake of Dr Chalmers’ budget.

More than half of Australians (52 per cent) expect to be personally worse off as a result of the budget, while just 11 per cent ­expect to be better off and 37 per cent expect to be neither better nor worse off. Despite the Prime Minister supporting blanket grandfathering across tax changes, 67 per cent of people who own investment properties said they would be worse off.

In a concerning trend for the government, only 10 per cent of renters expect to be better off compared with 44 per cent who believe they will be worse off and 46 per cent who think the budget will make no difference.

After Angus Taylor used his budget-in-reply speech on Thursday to set up a war between the Coalition and Labor over tax cuts, the Newspoll found 39 per cent of voters believed the Coalition would have delivered a better budget compared with 47 per cent who said it wouldn’t, which is almost identical to the result recorded by Peter Dutton’s opposition following last year’s pre-election budget.

As Mr Albanese and Mr Taylor embark on campaign-style tours of the country to sell their competing economic manifestos, the Newspoll revealed deep concerns over the budget dividing the community, increasing inflation, failing to reverse the housing crisis and driving-up taxes.

More women believe the budget is driving a wedge between younger and older generations and that it will make inflation worse, won’t be good for the economy and make them worse off.

Amid fears over more rate hikes and ongoing cost-of-living pressures, almost one in two voters believe the budget will make inflation worse, compared to only 9 per cent who say it will make it better and 32 per cent who say it will make no difference. Coalition, One Nation and independent voters were more likely to say the budget would fuel inflation.

The government’s big sell on its $47bn housing program and crackdowns on negative gearing and CGT appears to have a long way to go, with just 27 per cent of voters saying the budget was a step in the right ­direction. In contrast, 38 per cent said the budget was a step in the wrong direction and 22 per cent said it would make no difference.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/newspoll-jim-chalmers-and-antho...
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