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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #30 - May 9th, 2026 at 10:57am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:50am:
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:47am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:44am:
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:33am:
Summary:

Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist.

You're out of your depth on these issues.


You are stupid wanker going blind  Grin

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You took it like an Arab  Grin
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #31 - May 9th, 2026 at 10:58am
 
Leroy wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:54am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:49am:
Leroy wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:46am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:41am:
Leroy wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:31am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:26am:
Leroy wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:10am:
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 9:59am:
Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.



What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

You need to read Jabotinsky before you try your luck at the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Jabotinsky advised that there can be no peace plan with Palestinians or Arabs until the people have been conquered, the Palestinians displaced, and the land taken for the creation of a future Jewish state.

Jabotinsky imagined that, once that was achieved by military force, the Palestinians and Arabs would 'come around'.


Have you read the Hamas charter by any chance, so we can argue about who said what but would it not be better to look at what peace plans we can forward now to bring peace to the middle east.

Do you know what the Palestinians peace plan is?.

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, then.

The Israeli position is: Israel exists and on its own terms. It currently does not have universally agreed borders, with many internal Israeli maps that include East Jerusalem, the West Bank, parts of Jordan, Syria and parts of the Sinai included as greater' Israel.

The attitudes of those Palestinians and other Arabs who resist range from denying the existence of Israel at all, referring to it as the 'Zionist Entity', to acceptance of Israel's existence within the borders defined in UN Resolution 181, to resisting Israel's current project: the annexation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank, both of which have been condemned by the UN.




So do you know what the Palestinian peace plan is?.

Yep... stupid is as stupid writes...

Which Palestinians (and Arabs) are you referring to? The ones who deny Israel's existence? The ones who recognise Israel within Res 181? The ones who resist the creation of 'greater Israel'?


How do you negotiate with three different parties all wanting different outcomes?.

And from both sides...

There are those Jews who deny the existence of Israel as a state at all, those who accept Israel exists with UN Res 181 borders and those who believe in a 'greater Israel'.
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #32 - May 9th, 2026 at 10:59am
 
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:57am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:50am:
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:47am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:44am:
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:33am:
Summary:

Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist.

You're out of your depth on these issues.


You are stupid wanker going blind  Grin

Awww!


You took it like an Arab  Grin

How does an Asian take it?
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #33 - May 9th, 2026 at 11:06am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:59am:
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:57am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:50am:
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:47am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:44am:
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:33am:
Summary:

Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist.

You're out of your depth on these issues.


You are stupid wanker going blind  Grin

Awww!


You took it like an Arab  Grin

How does an Asian take it?


Mao said: MeisterEckhart took it like an Arab  Grin
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #34 - May 9th, 2026 at 11:11am
 
tallowood wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:33am:
Summary:

Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist.


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The Australian Government officially lists Hamas in its entirety as a terrorist organization, designating it as a violent extremist group with goals including the destruction of Israel.
This listing makes providing support, training, or funding to Hamas a criminal offense. Australia has imposed targeted sanctions on individuals and entities linked to Hamas in response to attacks
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #35 - May 9th, 2026 at 11:45am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 10:10am:
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 9:59am:
Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.



Did you learn about Hitler in School Meister?

Why do you try so desperately to avoid the reality of the situation and focus only on obscure ways to make Jews look evil? There is no shortage of evidence for what both sides actually do, but all you can manage is to tell them whet they think. Or suggest it at least. You don't have the balls to actually say it. You do this in every thread. You can go for a dozen pages without ever actually getting to the point.
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #36 - May 9th, 2026 at 11:51am
 
waggawoody wrote on May 8th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
lee wrote on May 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm:
Were dual nationalists doing their service in Israel?


"On 20 December 2023, the Australian Centre for International Justice wrote to the Minister for Home Affairs, the Attorney-General and the Australian Federal Police Commissioner with respect to Australian citizens who are currently engaged in hostilities in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT)...

:Numerous media publications have reported that dual Australian-Israeli citizens returned to Israel to participate in hostilities... Despite the publicly available information about Australian nationals’ engagement in the conflict as part of the IDF and violations of international law by the IDF, it appears that the Australian government has failed to provide any public statements advising of the risks involved...

"A failure to investigate and prosecute Australian nationals for involvement in potential war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide and torture as codified in Divisions 268 and 274 of the Commonwealth Criminal Code, would be in breach of Australia’s obligations under international law to investigate and prosecute these crimes. With respect to acts of genocide, the Australian government must uphold its obligation as a State Party to the Genocide Convention to not only punish acts of genocide, but prevent such acts. The inadequacy of warnings issued to date by the Department of Home Affairs may constitute a failure by Australia to comply with its obligations under the Convention."

https://acij.org.au/letter-australia-should-investigate-citizens-fighting-in-the...

That doesn't answer the question. Israel dual citizens are required tp do conscription service. That is ot the same as someone going overseas of their own volition to fight. Roll Eyes



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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #37 - May 9th, 2026 at 11:58am
 
In any case, dual citizenship does not preclude joining either nation's armed forces. This is not less idiotic than demanding that dual citizens who join our military get arrested by Israeli authorities, because some moron on the internet accuses our military of war crimes.
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #38 - May 9th, 2026 at 12:22pm
 
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 11:45am:
Did you learn about Hitler in School Meister?

Why do you try so desperately to avoid the reality of the situation and focus only on obscure ways to make Jews look evil? There is no shortage of evidence for what both sides actually do, but all you can manage is to tell them whet they think. Or suggest it at least. You don't have the balls to actually say it. You do this in every thread. You can go for a dozen pages without ever actually getting to the point.

You need to stay on the pills... your idiocy is a progressive disease...

Laughable that you think you're defending Israel, Israelis and Jews while equating Jabotinsky to Hitler.

Or that Israelis and Jews deny Jabotinsky's gargantuan influence on the creation of Israel by militant Zionists of the 20s, 30s and 40s, and the (Jabotinskyan) means by which they achieved it.

Or that his ideas are the reason Israel exists at all, despite what he recommended regarding Arab and Palestinian displacement by military force.

For a 15-year-old like yourself, you don't have the depth of mind to comprehend the Arab-Jew conflict, nor the courage... You literally don't have the balls for it... Most Jews do.

There are literally dozens of streets, roads or avenues named after him in Israel, including the cities/towns of:

Acre, Afula, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Azor, Bat Yam, Be’er Sheva, Be’er Ya’akov, Beit Dagan, Beit Shemesh, Bnei Brak, Gedera, Givat Shmuel, Givatayim, Hadera, Haifa, Herzliya, Hod HaSharon, Holon, Jerusalem, Kadima-Zoran, Kfar Saba, Kiryat Ata, Kiryat Bialik, Kiryat Malakhi, Kiryat Motzkin, Kiryat Ono, Kiryat Yam, Lod, Ma’alot-Tarshiha, Nahariya, Nes Ziona, Netanya, Netivot, Ofakim, Or Akiva, Or Yehuda, Petah Tikva, Ra’anana, Ramla, Ramat Gan, Ramat HaSharon, Rehovot, Rishon LeZion, Rosh HaAyin, Safed/Tzfat, Shlomi, Tel Aviv-Yafo, Tirat Carmel, Yavne, Yehud-Monosson, Zikhron Ya’akov.

There are also about ten parks, squares and whole suburbs named after him.

Outside Israel, in Ukraine, there's Volodymyra Zhabotynskoho Street in Kyiv.

Even in the USA, Times Square was temporarily renamed "Jabotinsky Square" in 1964 during Jabotinsky’s reburial/funeral procession, when his body was repatriated from New York to Israel.

How many Hitler streets, roads, avenues or boulevards can you name?

I'm pretty sure I know what Jews would think of your associating a prominent Jew with Hitler... Do you?
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Reply #39 - May 9th, 2026 at 12:40pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 12:22pm:
I'm pretty sure I know what Jews would think of your associating a prominent Jew with Hitler... Do you?


Arafat's uncle was Muslim Arab not Jew.

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Reply #40 - May 9th, 2026 at 12:48pm
 
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while equating Jabotinsky to Hitler


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I was hoping to highlight how stupid your argument is. It obviously went way over your head.

Do you have a point Meister? Are you brave enough to say what it is, or are you afraid the elders of zion will come and get you if you speak plainly?

This is the reality you try so desperately to avoid: Despite everything that they and their ancestors went through, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards, violent, hostile and corrupt places on earth. The significant Arab Muslim population enjoys more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They did all this while being under pretty much constant attack by rabid, Jew hating Muslims. We even had Muslims right here on this forum, Aussie converts with no link to the area other than their adopted religion, explaining why Islam motivates them to support ongoing violence against Jews. You prefer to pretend they don't exist, because it doesn't fit with your  blame-the-jews narrative and you cannot tolerate the possibility that all the promotion of violence, war and hatred of Jews in Islamic doctrine might actually cause all the violence, war and hatred of Jews in Muslim countries.

No wonder the best you can do is dribble incoherently about Jabotinsky. How many pages will it take you to figure out what your point is this time? 20?

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Reply #41 - May 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm
 
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 12:48pm:
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while equating Jabotinsky to Hitler


Grin

I was hoping to highlight how stupid your argument is. It obviously went way over your head.

Do you have a point Meister? Are you brave enough to say what it is, or are you afraid the elders of zion will come and get you if you speak plainly?

This is the reality you try so desperately to avoid: Despite everything that they and their ancestors went through, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards, violent, hostile and corrupt places on earth. The significant Arab Muslim population enjoys more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They did all this while being under pretty much constant attack by rabid, Jew hating Muslims. We even had Muslims right here on this forum, Aussie converts with no link to the area other than their adopted religion, explaining why Islam motivates them to support ongoing violence against Jews. You prefer to pretend they don't exist, because you cannot tolerate the possibility that all the promotion of violence, war and hatred of Jews in Islamic doctrine might actually cause all the violence, war and hatred of Jews in Muslim countries.

No wonder the best you can do is dribble incoherently about Jabotinsky. How many pages will it take you to figure out what your point is this time? 20?

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I guess you're not aware that any association of Jews with Hitler is off limits.

What European Jews went through was 2000 years of depraved European Jew hate, which was the impetus for the successful creation of Israel.

You need to understand that your teenage mindset can not absorb an issue as complex as the Arab-Jewish conflict.

And that meme you've posted over 50 times... how many times do you have to be schooled in its contents?
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #42 - May 9th, 2026 at 1:08pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 12:48pm:
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while equating Jabotinsky to Hitler


Grin

I was hoping to highlight how stupid your argument is. It obviously went way over your head.

Do you have a point Meister? Are you brave enough to say what it is, or are you afraid the elders of zion will come and get you if you speak plainly?

This is the reality you try so desperately to avoid: Despite everything that they and their ancestors went through, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards, violent, hostile and corrupt places on earth. The significant Arab Muslim population enjoys more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They did all this while being under pretty much constant attack by rabid, Jew hating Muslims. We even had Muslims right here on this forum, Aussie converts with no link to the area other than their adopted religion, explaining why Islam motivates them to support ongoing violence against Jews. You prefer to pretend they don't exist, because you cannot tolerate the possibility that all the promotion of violence, war and hatred of Jews in Islamic doctrine might actually cause all the violence, war and hatred of Jews in Muslim countries.

No wonder the best you can do is dribble incoherently about Jabotinsky. How many pages will it take you to figure out what your point is this time? 20?

[]http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/ethnic_cleansing.jpg[]

I guess you're not aware that any association of Jews with Hitler is off limits.

What European Jews went through was 2000 years of depraved European Jew hate, which was the impetus for the successful creation of Israel.

You need to understand that your teenage mindset can not absorb an issue as complex as the Arab-Jewish conflict.

And that meme you've posted over 50 times... how many times do you have to be schooled in its contents?


No one will have peace if all you want is to be right especially when both believe they are right.

What is required for peace, what compromise is there to achieve peace. If all you want is to relitigate past issues then its you that is not in pursuit of peace.
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #43 - May 9th, 2026 at 1:11pm
 
Leroy wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2026 at 12:48pm:
Quote:
while equating Jabotinsky to Hitler


Grin

I was hoping to highlight how stupid your argument is. It obviously went way over your head.

Do you have a point Meister? Are you brave enough to say what it is, or are you afraid the elders of zion will come and get you if you speak plainly?

This is the reality you try so desperately to avoid: Despite everything that they and their ancestors went through, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards, violent, hostile and corrupt places on earth. The significant Arab Muslim population enjoys more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They did all this while being under pretty much constant attack by rabid, Jew hating Muslims. We even had Muslims right here on this forum, Aussie converts with no link to the area other than their adopted religion, explaining why Islam motivates them to support ongoing violence against Jews. You prefer to pretend they don't exist, because you cannot tolerate the possibility that all the promotion of violence, war and hatred of Jews in Islamic doctrine might actually cause all the violence, war and hatred of Jews in Muslim countries.

No wonder the best you can do is dribble incoherently about Jabotinsky. How many pages will it take you to figure out what your point is this time? 20?

[]http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/ethnic_cleansing.jpg[]

I guess you're not aware that any association of Jews with Hitler is off limits.

What European Jews went through was 2000 years of depraved European Jew hate, which was the impetus for the successful creation of Israel.

You need to understand that your teenage mindset can not absorb an issue as complex as the Arab-Jewish conflict.

And that meme you've posted over 50 times... how many times do you have to be schooled in its contents?


No one will have peace if all you want is to be right especially when both believe they are right.


Correct. Even Jabotinsky recognised that the Arab-Jewish conflict was predicated on right vs right.
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Reply #44 - May 9th, 2026 at 1:15pm
 
Jew haters don't end well, remember that.

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