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Reply #15 - May 9^th, 2026 at 9:17am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:01am:

No matter what argument Israelis put up to minimise militant Zionist actions, they can never escape what Jabotinsky warned would be their legacy: that they invaded the region and displaced the local population by armed force.

Happened all over the world, on much larger scale.
The only unique thing about the Palestinyans is that they never formed their own nation or country, unlike say Germans, Russians, Poles etc; and that they are Muslims and so cannot reconcile their religion with Jewish dominance over them.

Had they accepted the 1948 borders and formed their own country at the same time the Jews did, or had Jordan, Egypt and Syria not attack Israel 20 years later, there would be no Jewish settlements in the WB now.

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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #16 - May 9^th, 2026 at 9:29am

Frank wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:17am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:01am:

No matter what argument Israelis put up to minimise militant Zionist actions, they can never escape what Jabotinsky warned would be their legacy: that they invaded the region and displaced the local population by armed force.

Happened all over the world, on much larger scale.
The only unique thing about the Palestinyans is that they never formed their own nation or country, unlike say Germans, Russians, Poles etc; and that they are Muslims and so cannot reconcile their religion with Jewish dominance over them.

Had they accepted the 1948 borders and formed their own country at the same time the Jews did, or had Jordan, Egypt and Syria not attack Israel 20 years later, there would be no Jewish settlements in the WB now.

Terra Nulius?

"We cannot give any compensation for Palestine, neither to the Palestinians nor to other Arabs. Therefore, a voluntary agreement is inconceivable.

All colonisation, even the most restricted, must continue in defiance of the will of the native population. Therefore, it can continue and develop only under the shield of force, which comprises an Iron Wall that the local population can never break through.

This is our Arab policy.

To formulate it any other way would be hypocrisy.” Jabotinsky

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53077 At my desk.	Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes? Reply #17 - May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler. At last, it saves Meister from having to address reality.
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #18 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #19 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #20 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:26am

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

You need to read Jabotinsky before you try your luck at the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Jabotinsky advised that there can be no peace plan with Palestinians or Arabs until the people have been conquered, the Palestinians displaced, and the land taken for the creation of a future Jewish state.

Jabotinsky imagined that, once that was achieved by military force, the Palestinians and Arabs would 'come around'.

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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #21 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:31am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:26am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

You need to read Jabotinsky before you try your luck at the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Jabotinsky advised that there can be no peace plan with Palestinians or Arabs until the people have been conquered, the Palestinians displaced, and the land taken for the creation of a future Jewish state.

Jabotinsky imagined that, once that was achieved by military force, the Palestinians and Arabs would 'come around'.

Have you read the Hamas charter by any chance, so we can argue about who said what but would it not be better to look at what peace plans we can forward now to bring peace to the middle east.

Do you know what the Palestinians peace plan is?.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7952 Gender:	Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes? Reply #22 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:33am Summary: Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist.
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #23 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:41am

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:26am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

You need to read Jabotinsky before you try your luck at the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Jabotinsky advised that there can be no peace plan with Palestinians or Arabs until the people have been conquered, the Palestinians displaced, and the land taken for the creation of a future Jewish state.

Jabotinsky imagined that, once that was achieved by military force, the Palestinians and Arabs would 'come around'.

Have you read the Hamas charter by any chance, so we can argue about who said what but would it not be better to look at what peace plans we can forward now to bring peace to the middle east.

Do you know what the Palestinians peace plan is?.

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, then.

The Israeli position is: Israel exists and on its own terms. It currently does not have universally agreed borders, with many internal Israeli maps that include East Jerusalem, the West Bank, parts of Jordan, Syria and parts of the Sinai included as greater' Israel.

The attitudes of those Palestinians and other Arabs who resist range from denying the existence of Israel at all, referring to it as the 'Zionist Entity', to acceptance of Israel's existence within the borders defined in UN Resolution 181, to resisting Israel's current project: the annexation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank, both of which have been condemned by the UN.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes? Reply #24 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:44am tallowood wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:33am: Summary: Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist. You're out of your depth on these issues.
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #25 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:46am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:41am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:26am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

You need to read Jabotinsky before you try your luck at the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Jabotinsky advised that there can be no peace plan with Palestinians or Arabs until the people have been conquered, the Palestinians displaced, and the land taken for the creation of a future Jewish state.

Jabotinsky imagined that, once that was achieved by military force, the Palestinians and Arabs would 'come around'.

Have you read the Hamas charter by any chance, so we can argue about who said what but would it not be better to look at what peace plans we can forward now to bring peace to the middle east.

Do you know what the Palestinians peace plan is?.

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, then.

The Israeli position is: Israel exists and on its own terms. It currently does not have universally agreed borders, with many internal Israeli maps that include East Jerusalem, the West Bank, parts of Jordan, Syria and parts of the Sinai included as greater' Israel.

The attitudes of those Palestinians and other Arabs who resist range from denying the existence of Israel at all, referring to it as the 'Zionist Entity', to acceptance of Israel's existence within the borders defined in UN Resolution 181, to resisting Israel's current project: the annexation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank, both of which have been condemned by the UN.

So do you know what the Palestinian peace plan is?.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7952 Gender:	Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes? Reply #26 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:47am MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:44am: tallowood wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:33am: Summary: Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist. You're out of your depth on these issues. You are stupid wanker going blind
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #27 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:49am

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:46am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:41am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:26am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

You need to read Jabotinsky before you try your luck at the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Jabotinsky advised that there can be no peace plan with Palestinians or Arabs until the people have been conquered, the Palestinians displaced, and the land taken for the creation of a future Jewish state.

Jabotinsky imagined that, once that was achieved by military force, the Palestinians and Arabs would 'come around'.

Have you read the Hamas charter by any chance, so we can argue about who said what but would it not be better to look at what peace plans we can forward now to bring peace to the middle east.

Do you know what the Palestinians peace plan is?.

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, then.

The Israeli position is: Israel exists and on its own terms. It currently does not have universally agreed borders, with many internal Israeli maps that include East Jerusalem, the West Bank, parts of Jordan, Syria and parts of the Sinai included as greater' Israel.

The attitudes of those Palestinians and other Arabs who resist range from denying the existence of Israel at all, referring to it as the 'Zionist Entity', to acceptance of Israel's existence within the borders defined in UN Resolution 181, to resisting Israel's current project: the annexation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank, both of which have been condemned by the UN.

So do you know what the Palestinian peace plan is?.

Yep... stupid is as stupid writes...

Which Palestinians (and Arabs) are you referring to? The ones who deny Israel's existence? The ones who recognise Israel within Res 181? The ones who resist the creation of 'greater Israel'?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes? Reply #28 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:50am tallowood wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:47am: MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:44am: tallowood wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:33am: Summary: Another idiotic anti Israel thread by HAMAS lobbyist. You're out of your depth on these issues. You are stupid wanker going blind Awww!
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Re: Dual nationals charged with war crimes?
Reply #29 - May 9^th, 2026 at 10:54am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:49am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:46am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:41am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:26am:

Leroy wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:12am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 10:10am:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2026 at 9:59am:

Wow. Meister tries to prove how evil the Israelis are with a quote from someone born in 1880. It would be less stupid to accuse Friedrich Merz of hypocrisy by quoting Hitler.

Your pills haven't kicked in, then.

Jabotinsky is the founder and father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism. His "Iron Wall" and "Ethics of the Iron Wall" are taught in educational institutions throughout Israel. Almost every city/town in Israel has a street named after him.

Israel honours Jabotinsky through law, state ceremony, Mount Herzl burial (Israel's highest burial honour), Knesset commemoration, IDF and school education, museums and archives, and street names.

His Memorial Day is 29 Tammuz of the Hebrew calendar.

What is Palestines peace plan with Israel?

You need to read Jabotinsky before you try your luck at the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Jabotinsky advised that there can be no peace plan with Palestinians or Arabs until the people have been conquered, the Palestinians displaced, and the land taken for the creation of a future Jewish state.

Jabotinsky imagined that, once that was achieved by military force, the Palestinians and Arabs would 'come around'.

Have you read the Hamas charter by any chance, so we can argue about who said what but would it not be better to look at what peace plans we can forward now to bring peace to the middle east.

Do you know what the Palestinians peace plan is?.

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, then.

The Israeli position is: Israel exists and on its own terms. It currently does not have universally agreed borders, with many internal Israeli maps that include East Jerusalem, the West Bank, parts of Jordan, Syria and parts of the Sinai included as greater' Israel.

The attitudes of those Palestinians and other Arabs who resist range from denying the existence of Israel at all, referring to it as the 'Zionist Entity', to acceptance of Israel's existence within the borders defined in UN Resolution 181, to resisting Israel's current project: the annexation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank, both of which have been condemned by the UN.

So do you know what the Palestinian peace plan is?.

Yep... stupid is as stupid writes...

Which Palestinians (and Arabs) are you referring to? The ones who deny Israel's existence? The ones who recognise Israel within Res 181? The ones who resist the creation of 'greater Israel'?

How do you negotiate with three different parties all wanting different outcomes?.

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