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Reply #45 - May 17th, 2026 at 11:41am
 
Sophia wrote on May 17th, 2026 at 11:04am:
Speaking of banning or at least keeping it honest….honey.
Why are some honeys mixed with other crap?
Leave real honey alone. Don’t insult the bees!
I recently came back from The Whitsundays, I bought honey supposedly 100% raw tropical honey.
It’s very runny and tastes like 90% golden syrup.
We’ve had bee keepers with their hives on our property in past, and I buy local raw honey …I reckon I’m a bit fanatical about honey….and it’s completely different to this one I bought. The commercial honey with mixed stuff is exactly like this one I just bought. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m going on a quest to find out what part of that honey is 100% raw.
Qld rules may be different with what is stated in ingredients?
I’ve even bought honey from Kangaroo Island SA made from Roman Ligurian bees … and it’s fricken amazing!
So for now, I’m disappointed with this tropical rainforest honey.



Capilano were amongst the big companies & supermarkets involved in honey substitution with sugar syrups..... like rice & corn syrups

They sourced a lot of so called honey out of China, Malaysia & Thailand which was made up/blended heavily with syrups.

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/honey-investigation-concludes-due-to-testi...

https://www.forestfreshhoney.com.au/blogs/news/fake-honey-australia-why-its-a-gr...

My guess with a huge tourist destination like Airlie the retailers tell a lot of porkies about the sourcing of their products, buy in bulk from supermarkets or wholesalers and relabel it as local.
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Reply #46 - May 17th, 2026 at 12:15pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2026 at 11:41am:
Sophia wrote on May 17th, 2026 at 11:04am:
Speaking of banning or at least keeping it honest….honey.
Why are some honeys mixed with other crap?
Leave real honey alone. Don’t insult the bees!
I recently came back from The Whitsundays, I bought honey supposedly 100% raw tropical honey.
It’s very runny and tastes like 90% golden syrup.
We’ve had bee keepers with their hives on our property in past, and I buy local raw honey …I reckon I’m a bit fanatical about honey….and it’s completely different to this one I bought. The commercial honey with mixed stuff is exactly like this one I just bought. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m going on a quest to find out what part of that honey is 100% raw.
Qld rules may be different with what is stated in ingredients?
I’ve even bought honey from Kangaroo Island SA made from Roman Ligurian bees … and it’s fricken amazing!
So for now, I’m disappointed with this tropical rainforest honey.



Capilano were amongst the big companies & supermarkets involved in honey substitution with sugar syrups..... like rice & corn syrups

They sourced a lot of so called honey out of China, Malaysia & Thailand which was made up/blended heavily with syrups.

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/honey-investigation-concludes-due-to-testi...

https://www.forestfreshhoney.com.au/blogs/news/fake-honey-australia-why-its-a-gr...

My guess with a huge tourist destination like Airlie the retailers tell a lot of porkies about the sourcing of their products, buy in bulk from supermarkets or wholesalers and relabel it as local.


Oh yeah! I forgot about the hoo ha RE: Capilano. And this “rainforest honey” tastes just as cheap and similar runny consistency! I had avoided Capilano since.



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Reply #47 - May 17th, 2026 at 2:59pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2026 at 10:34am:
freediver wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 12:56pm:
Would it be the right thing to do to ban apples because someone sends in a weak application?


What bollocks.

Who's sending in an application for apples?

They are already a recognised fruit - globally.

The toxicity of their seeds does not escape into the fruit & it is common knowledge not to eat them.

Probably at more risk from the sprays they use on them if you don't wash your apples when you get them home.


Are you saying that Moringa is not recognised?
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Reply #48 - May 18th, 2026 at 10:59am
 
freediver wrote on May 17th, 2026 at 2:59pm:
Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2026 at 10:34am:
freediver wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 12:56pm:
Would it be the right thing to do to ban apples because someone sends in a weak application?


What bollocks.

Who's sending in an application for apples?

They are already a recognised fruit - globally.

The toxicity of their seeds does not escape into the fruit & it is common knowledge not to eat them.

Probably at more risk from the sprays they use on them if you don't wash your apples when you get them home.


Are you saying that Moringa is not recognised?


So you think because you want to buy processed Moringa it shouldn't have been banned from commercial sale by the TGA?

Grow you're own tree & you can eat all you like. DH
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Reply #49 - May 18th, 2026 at 12:09pm
 
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So you think because you want to buy processed Moringa it shouldn't have been banned from commercial sale by the TGA?


I don't want to buy it. I grow it myself.
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Reply #50 - May 20th, 2026 at 11:10am
 
freediver wrote on May 18th, 2026 at 12:09pm:
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So you think because you want to buy processed Moringa it shouldn't have been banned from commercial sale by the TGA?


I don't want to buy it. I grow it myself.


So what's the post really in aid of? Click bait?
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Reply #51 - May 20th, 2026 at 1:16pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2026 at 11:10am:
freediver wrote on May 18th, 2026 at 12:09pm:
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So you think because you want to buy processed Moringa it shouldn't have been banned from commercial sale by the TGA?


I don't want to buy it. I grow it myself.


So what's the post really in aid of? Click bait?


Not sure if you have noticed Gnads. This is a politics forum.
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Reply #52 - May 23rd, 2026 at 12:22pm
 
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2026 at 11:10am:
freediver wrote on May 18th, 2026 at 12:09pm:
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So you think because you want to buy processed Moringa it shouldn't have been banned from commercial sale by the TGA?


I don't want to buy it. I grow it myself.


So what's the post really in aid of? Click bait?


Not sure if you have noticed Gnads. This is a politics forum.


What has Moringa got to do with Politics?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - May 23rd, 2026 at 12:41pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 23rd, 2026 at 12:22pm:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2026 at 11:10am:
freediver wrote on May 18th, 2026 at 12:09pm:
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So you think because you want to buy processed Moringa it shouldn't have been banned from commercial sale by the TGA?


I don't want to buy it. I grow it myself.


So what's the post really in aid of? Click bait?


Not sure if you have noticed Gnads. This is a politics forum.


What has Moringa got to do with Politics?  Roll Eyes


It was banned. Can you see the connection, or do I have to explain it to you?

Do you think this forum is only for discussing what the PM had for dinner?
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Reply #54 - May 24th, 2026 at 6:02pm
 
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2026 at 12:41pm:
Gnads wrote on May 23rd, 2026 at 12:22pm:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Gnads wrote on May 20th, 2026 at 11:10am:
freediver wrote on May 18th, 2026 at 12:09pm:
Quote:
So you think because you want to buy processed Moringa it shouldn't have been banned from commercial sale by the TGA?


I don't want to buy it. I grow it myself.


So what's the post really in aid of? Click bait?


Not sure if you have noticed Gnads. This is a politics forum.


What has Moringa got to do with Politics?  Roll Eyes


It was banned. Can you see the connection, or do I have to explain it to you?

Do you think this forum is only for discussing what the PM had for dinner?


You tard it was banned by the Therapeutic Goods Administration not the Alboslease Govt.

It is a Govt authority which is part of the Department of Health, the TGA assesses, approves, and continually monitors the safety, quality, and efficacy of medicines, medical devices, vaccines, biologicals, and other health products.

It operates regardless of what side of politics is in Govt.

Are the Labor Party Front Bench all scientists now?  Roll Eyes

You have a Moringa tree & eat from it which is perfectly legal... so STFU.

It's been banned as a commercial food ingredient.

However Moringa oleifera has not been banned from & remains legal to sell and consume as a therapeutic medicine or dietary supplement in most of the world (when sold in properly registered capsule or pill forms), including Australia.

I saw an add yesterday from Chemist Warehouse for a weight loss patch that contains Moringa.

Moringa in it's entirety has not been banned - in fact only a small part has ....

so once again I say to you your post has been a load of bollocks.
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Reply #55 - May 24th, 2026 at 7:39pm
 
Yes minister.
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Reply #56 - Jul 9th, 2026 at 10:08am
 
Moringa oleifera growers push to overturn ban on ancient 'superfood'

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2026-07-09/moringa-oleifera-growers-fsanz-ban-appeal/106888404

Australian Moringa oleifera growers are unsure whether they will able to sell their product after the next harvest.

Moringa cannot be sold as a food or food ingredient after Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ) ruled in November 2025 that it was unable to establish that it was safe for human consumption.

Somerset region grower Gary Duffy is leading an appeal to reverse the decision.

Parts of Moringa oleifera, or drumstick tree, are used in Eastern recipes and in health supplements.

The FSANZ ruling applies to the leaves, immature pods and oils of the plant, which can now be destroyed at the Australian border or re-exported.

However, therapeutic products or supplements that contain moringa, such as capsules and powders, will remain available for purchase only if they are registered with the Therapeutic Goods Administration [TGA].

Mr Duffy has written to federal, state and territory health ministers to seek a stay on the determination while FSANZ assesses his appeal.

"Fresh product going into the Melbourne and Sydney markets was all imported from overseas, and we [Australian growers] want to try to bridge that gap," he said.

A spokesperson from the federal Department of Health, Disability and Ageing said the rejection was not open to FSANZ or the minister to review or suspend and advised Mr Duffy that a new application would be welcomed.

A decision on his new application could take up to two years.

Wide Bay grower Joel Molloy hopes there will be an outcome sooner rather than later.

He was involved in the industry for 10 years before relocating from the Gold Coast to Rosedale, five hours' drive north of Brisbane, to establish his own farm.

He bought the property just before FSANZ handed down its decision.

"I invested everything I had into this farm, and it's 10 years of work, and then just overnight it's gone," Mr Molloy said.

"It's a kick in the guts.

"We were never consulted; we were never warned."

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FSANZ's decision was in response to an application in January 2024 from Noosa Organica Pty Ltd to amend the Australia New Zealand Food Standards Code to list Moringa oleifera as a food or food ingredient.

After reviewing the application and external studies, the statutory body handed down its decision in November 2025.

FSANZ's assessment raised concerns about the reproductive effects noted in mice and conflicting results around genotoxicity.

In its rejection report, FSANZ noted that information in the application or peer-reviewed literature concerning the safety of the seed pods or oil was limited.

"The decision reinforces that robust high-quality scientific evidence is required when seeking approval for novel foods," a spokesperson said.

The authority added it could not determine a safe level of exposure without further human studies.

Food industry consultant Courtney Stewart said that was standard procedure for foods not widely available in Australia.

"There might be ingredients that people wish were on the market, but FSANZ is just looking out for consumers to make sure everything is safe for consumption," she said.

"Until there is historical data to show something is safe over the long term, then they won't approve anything, and I think that's a good conservative approach until we have that information."

Cultural significance

Parts of the plant have been used in Asia, Africa and the Middle East for centuries.

University of New England biomedical science senior lecturer Vandana Gulati has researched medicinal plants for more than 20 years and said moringa's various uses made it unique.

"[Oil extracted from the seeds] contains many phytochemicals that have really good activities for infections, fever and for skin health," she said.

"[In Indian culture] we use the leaves to make curries and the seed pods, which are known as the drumstick, are also used in cooking."

Dr Gulati said the culture traditionally considered the plant a "superfood" because every part had a benefit, but she understood the safety concerns for people who did not regularly consume Moringa oleifera.
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Reply #57 - Jul 9th, 2026 at 11:21am
 
Roll Eyes Next you'll be wanting to chew betel nut or Khat/Qat.
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Reply #58 - Jul 9th, 2026 at 11:22am
 
It is not illegal to chew betel nut in Australia.

Are you suggesting that Moringa is somehow equivalent to highly addictive drugs? It s a common daily food in asia and africa. It is eaten by billions of people worldwide, and has been eaten as food for thousands of years. It is not a "novel food".
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Reply #59 - Jul 9th, 2026 at 11:25am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 9th, 2026 at 11:22am:
It is not illegal to chew betel nut in Australia.

Are you suggesting that Moringa is somehow equivalent to highly addictive drugs?


No..... but you were whinging Moringa was banned.

There are heavy restrictions on the use of betel nut in Australia too.

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Khat (Catha edulis) is a prohibited substance and cannot be imported into Australia. Travelling with or importing khat into Australia is not permitted.


https://www.odc.gov.au/khat
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