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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #15 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 2:38pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 2:12pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 12:10pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 11:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 10:25am:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair do you think that Trump could get the "nuclear codes" and what, put them into an app on his phone.

How can intelligent people fall for this, I know that TDS sufferers will fall for it without hesitation.

Does anyone think that simply getting the codes enables someone to arm nuclear weapons

I think the point (that you clearly missed) is the fact that he even asked for them and he had to be refused by General Caine.

I think the point you missed is you have taken a podcast as fact.

So because it was raised on a podcast instead of the 6pm news bulletin, it can't possibly be true, eh?

No it's because generals don't walk around with nuclear codes, except in movies and there is no single code for armament of nuclear weapons, except again in movies.

Nobody said they did.

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #16 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 2:45pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 12:10pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 11:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 10:25am:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair do you think that Trump could get the "nuclear codes" and what, put them into an app on his phone.

How can intelligent people fall for this, I know that TDS sufferers will fall for it without hesitation.

Does anyone think that simply getting the codes enables someone to arm nuclear weapons

I think the point (that you clearly missed) is the fact that he even asked for them and he had to be refused by General Caine.

I think the point you missed is you have taken a podcast as fact.

So because it was raised on a podcast instead of the 6pm news bulletin, it can't possibly be true, eh?

"Fact Check: The Truth Behind the Viral Claim That General Dan Caine 'Blocked' Trump's Nuclear Codes
Fact-checkers found no matching reports, yet the viral clip is already moving oil markets and shaking Pentagon trust"

https://www.ibtimes.com/fact-check-truth-behind-viral-claim-that-general-dan-cai...

"Major outlets and fact‑checking sites have searched for independent confirmation and found none; reporters note there are no credible, verified reports or official statements backing Johnson’s account and that the Pentagon’s publicly confirmed briefings did not include such an emergency meeting about nuclear authorization"

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/evidence-larry-johnson-claim-trump-nuc...

So no evidence, but you cloiasm it to be true. Roll Eyes

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #17 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:05pm

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 2:45pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 12:10pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 11:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 10:25am:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair do you think that Trump could get the "nuclear codes" and what, put them into an app on his phone.

How can intelligent people fall for this, I know that TDS sufferers will fall for it without hesitation.

Does anyone think that simply getting the codes enables someone to arm nuclear weapons

I think the point (that you clearly missed) is the fact that he even asked for them and he had to be refused by General Caine.

I think the point you missed is you have taken a podcast as fact.

So because it was raised on a podcast instead of the 6pm news bulletin, it can't possibly be true, eh?

"Fact Check: The Truth Behind the Viral Claim That General Dan Caine 'Blocked' Trump's Nuclear Codes
Fact-checkers found no matching reports, yet the viral clip is already moving oil markets and shaking Pentagon trust"

https://www.ibtimes.com/fact-check-truth-behind-viral-claim-that-general-dan-cai...

"Major outlets and fact‑checking sites have searched for independent confirmation and found none; reporters note there are no credible, verified reports or official statements backing Johnson’s account and that the Pentagon’s publicly confirmed briefings did not include such an emergency meeting about nuclear authorization"

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/evidence-larry-johnson-claim-trump-nuc...

So no evidence, but you claim it to be true. Roll Eyes

Has Trump denied it publicly?

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #18 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 2:45pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 12:10pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 11:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 10:25am:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair do you think that Trump could get the "nuclear codes" and what, put them into an app on his phone.

How can intelligent people fall for this, I know that TDS sufferers will fall for it without hesitation.

Does anyone think that simply getting the codes enables someone to arm nuclear weapons

I think the point (that you clearly missed) is the fact that he even asked for them and he had to be refused by General Caine.

I think the point you missed is you have taken a podcast as fact.

So because it was raised on a podcast instead of the 6pm news bulletin, it can't possibly be true, eh?

"Fact Check: The Truth Behind the Viral Claim That General Dan Caine 'Blocked' Trump's Nuclear Codes
Fact-checkers found no matching reports, yet the viral clip is already moving oil markets and shaking Pentagon trust"

https://www.ibtimes.com/fact-check-truth-behind-viral-claim-that-general-dan-cai...

"Major outlets and fact‑checking sites have searched for independent confirmation and found none; reporters note there are no credible, verified reports or official statements backing Johnson’s account and that the Pentagon’s publicly confirmed briefings did not include such an emergency meeting about nuclear authorization"

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/evidence-larry-johnson-claim-trump-nuc...

So no evidence, but you cloiasm it to be true. Roll Eyes

Evidence:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

Larry Johnson's testimony was supported by video evidence of Dan Caine storming out of the White House at the time referenced, with DL's staff disclosing they'd been berated for hours in a grueling tirade by DL which went on into the night.

Later that night, he posted:

Quote:

"We're offering a very fair and reasonable DEAL, and I hope they take it because, if they don't, the United States is going to knock out every single Power Plant, and every single Bridge, in Iran. NO MORE MR. NICE GUY!"

Far from having "no evidence", dear, I think we have all the evidence we need, don't you?

NO MORE MR NICE GUY !!!

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #19 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:05pm:

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 2:45pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 12:10pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 11:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 10:25am:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 9:57am:

Armchair do you think that Trump could get the "nuclear codes" and what, put them into an app on his phone.

How can intelligent people fall for this, I know that TDS sufferers will fall for it without hesitation.

Does anyone think that simply getting the codes enables someone to arm nuclear weapons

I think the point (that you clearly missed) is the fact that he even asked for them and he had to be refused by General Caine.

I think the point you missed is you have taken a podcast as fact.

So because it was raised on a podcast instead of the 6pm news bulletin, it can't possibly be true, eh?

"Fact Check: The Truth Behind the Viral Claim That General Dan Caine 'Blocked' Trump's Nuclear Codes
Fact-checkers found no matching reports, yet the viral clip is already moving oil markets and shaking Pentagon trust"

https://www.ibtimes.com/fact-check-truth-behind-viral-claim-that-general-dan-cai...

"Major outlets and fact‑checking sites have searched for independent confirmation and found none; reporters note there are no credible, verified reports or official statements backing Johnson’s account and that the Pentagon’s publicly confirmed briefings did not include such an emergency meeting about nuclear authorization"

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/evidence-larry-johnson-claim-trump-nuc...

So no evidence, but you claim it to be true. Roll Eyes

Has Trump denied it publicly?

He most certainly has not.

Has Lee denied that he worships DL?

That's a question.

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #20 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:15pm

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

So an ex-CIA officer was a witness? Or an ex-CIA officer heard about it? Roll Eyes

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #21 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:18pm

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:15pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

So an ex-CIA officer was a witness? Or an ex-CIA officer heard about it? Roll Eyes

Or an ex disgraced CIA disgruntled officer made it up.

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #23 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:08pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:18pm:

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:15pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

So an ex-CIA officer was a witness? Or an ex-CIA officer heard about it? Roll Eyes

Or an ex disgraced CIA disgruntled officer made it up.

There's no evidence for that, Leroy. Ask Lee.

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #24 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:41pm

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:18pm:

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:15pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

So an ex-CIA officer was a witness? Or an ex-CIA officer heard about it? Roll Eyes

Or an ex disgraced CIA disgruntled officer made it up.

There's no evidence for that, Leroy. Ask Lee.

But there is evidence. Johnson declared two months before 9/11 that there was no risk to America from terrorists, then he also claimed that there was a video of Michelle Obama making racist remarks.

Johnson has no contacts in the CIA and if he has with his record of misinformation then its highly likely he is being fed false information for other purposes.

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #25 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:45pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:41pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:18pm:

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:15pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

So an ex-CIA officer was a witness? Or an ex-CIA officer heard about it? Roll Eyes

Or an ex disgraced CIA disgruntled officer made it up.

There's no evidence for that, Leroy. Ask Lee.

But there is evidence. Johnson declared two months before 9/11 that there was no risk to America from terrorists, then he also claimed that there was a video of Michelle Obama making racist remarks.

Johnson has no contacts in the CIA and if he has with his record of misinformation then its highly likely he is being fed false information for other purposes.

Right, so provide your evidence.

Lee and I can have a squiz.

He's totally unbiased on this, you see.

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #26 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:55pm

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:45pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:41pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:18pm:

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:15pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

So an ex-CIA officer was a witness? Or an ex-CIA officer heard about it? Roll Eyes

Or an ex disgraced CIA disgruntled officer made it up.

There's no evidence for that, Leroy. Ask Lee.

But there is evidence. Johnson declared two months before 9/11 that there was no risk to America from terrorists, then he also claimed that there was a video of Michelle Obama making racist remarks.

Johnson has no contacts in the CIA and if he has with his record of misinformation then its highly likely he is being fed false information for other purposes.

Right, so provide your evidence.

Lee and I can have a squiz.

He's totally unbiased on this, you see.

This is your weakness, you don't gather all the information. I'm not your mother, find it yourself.

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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #27 - Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 6:18pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:45pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:41pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 5:08pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:18pm:

lee wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 4:15pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 3:24pm:

On an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast hosted by former Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano, ex-CIA officer Larry Johnson claimed an emergency briefing evolved into a confrontation, after General Dan Caine stood his ground after Trump sought to invoke the nuclear codes. He said Caine "stood up and said 'No.' He invoked his privilege as the head of the military."

So an ex-CIA officer was a witness? Or an ex-CIA officer heard about it? Roll Eyes

Or an ex disgraced CIA disgruntled officer made it up.

There's no evidence for that, Leroy. Ask Lee.

But there is evidence. Johnson declared two months before 9/11 that there was no risk to America from terrorists, then he also claimed that there was a video of Michelle Obama making racist remarks.

Johnson has no contacts in the CIA and if he has with his record of misinformation then its highly likely he is being fed false information for other purposes.

Right, so provide your evidence.

Lee and I can have a squiz.

He's totally unbiased on this, you see.

This is your weakness, you don't gather all the information. I'm not your mother, find it yourself.

What do you think, Lee?

Does Leroy's response meet your high evidentiary standards?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20657 Gender:	Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes Reply #28 - Apr 23^rd, 2026 at 3:11pm Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 6:18pm: Does Leroy's response meet your high evidentiary standards? They meet yours, that is all you have to worry about.
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Re: General refuses to give Trump nuclear codes
Reply #29 - Apr 23^rd, 2026 at 6:46pm

lee wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2026 at 3:11pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2026 at 6:18pm:

Does Leroy's response meet your high evidentiary standards?

They meet yours, that is all you have to worry about. Wink

Is it? So when have you ever seen evidence tendered by moi without a reputable, fact-checked source?

Quote me.

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