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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41631 Gender:	How naive to elect a criminal Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:11pm it goes way beyond naive. self destructive? amoral?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41631 Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #1 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:12pm Spiritually bereft ?
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Leroy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4864 Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #2 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:26pm Not once but twice.
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Reply #3 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:38pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:26pm:

Not once but twice.

First time while he was likely a criminal he wasn't a convicter one he also wasn't an insurectionist at that time.

Is it worse that he is the first convicted criminal President or the first insurectionist President appointed in conrivention to the constitution.

Yes the 14th amendment explicitly states that Donald Trump can never be President legitimately after 2020.

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Reply #4 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:50pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:38pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:26pm:

Not once but twice.

First time while he was likely a criminal he wasn't a convicter one he also wasn't an insurectionist at that time.

Is it worse that he is the first convicted criminal President or the first insurectionist President appointed in conrivention to the constitution.

Yes the 14th amendment explicitly states that Donald Trump can never be President legitimately after 2020.

Thats the thing, he does what no one else can do, thats the amazing thing about Trump. He affects the lives of so many people, more than any other person alive.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57930 Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #5 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 7:00pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:11pm: it goes way beyond naive. self destructive? amoral? Classic right wing. Modern Classic Right Wing.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 152198 Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #6 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 7:15pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:11pm: it goes way beyond naive. self destructive? amoral? Self interest and affinity. The US has a lot of criminals and rapists.
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Leroy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4864 Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #7 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 8:10pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 7:15pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:11pm: it goes way beyond naive. self destructive? amoral? Self interest and affinity. The US has a lot of criminals and rapists. Yeah but most of them are being deported now.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61547 Here Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #8 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 8:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 7:15pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:11pm: it goes way beyond naive. self destructive? amoral? Self interest and affinity. The US has a lot of criminals and rapists. But only one of them is acting as President.
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Reply #9 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 8:38pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:38pm:

Leroy wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:26pm:

Not once but twice.

First time while he was likely a criminal he wasn't a convicter one he also wasn't an insurectionist at that time.

Is it worse that he is the first convicted criminal President or the first insurectionist President appointed in conrivention to the constitution.

Yes the 14th amendment explicitly states that Donald Trump can never be President legitimately after 2020.

Thats the thing, he does what no one else can do, thats the amazing thing about Trump. He affects the lives of so many people, more than any other person alive.

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he does what no one else can do, thats the amazing thing about Trump.

Your really proud that his most outstanding feature is that he should be in prison ? Really ?

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Marla Gold Member Online A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14756 Colorado Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #10 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 5:27am Leroy wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 8:10pm: Yeah but most of them are being deported now. Yeah, just not your fellow Ruzzian and/or Cuban scum. Eh, Yuri?
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Reply #11 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 9:21am

Everyone talks about how great America is, but they are really not that great and the proof is in what we have seen since Trump first entered politics as a Presidential candidate. It got exponentially worse when he was convicted of several dozen felony sex offences and yet he was still allowed to run for office - even after he was impeached not once, but twice. It shows just how broken the US political system is when Trump can pardon criminals who make payments to him, negating their commitment to repay their victims or serve their jail sentences. He uses pardons to personally enrich himself financially. But the truly ridiculous thing about US politics is that a twice impeached convicted felon can be elected President, but a former Governor of California can't even run for President because while he is a naturalised American citizen, he wasn't born in the US and anyone not born in the US is barred from running for President. It has taken a second Trump presidency to show just how broken and easily corrupted the US government and political system really is. Half the dumb sh!t he's done, and continues to do, wouldn't even be possible in the Australian political system or government.

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Reply #12 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 10:10am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 21^st, 2026 at 9:21am:

Everyone talks about how great America is, but they are really not that great and the proof is in what we have seen since Trump first entered politics as a Presidential candidate. It got exponentially worse when he was convicted of several dozen felony sex offences and yet he was still allowed to run for office - even after he was impeached not once, but twice. It shows just how broken the US political system is when Trump can pardon criminals who make payments to him, negating their commitment to repay their victims or serve their jail sentences. He uses pardons to personally enrich himself financially. But the truly ridiculous thing about US politics is that a twice impeached convicted felon can be elected President, but a former Governor of California can't even run for President because while he is a naturalised American citizen, he wasn't born in the US and anyone not born in the US is barred from running for President. It has taken a second Trump presidency to show just how broken and easily corrupted the US government and political system really is. Half the dumb sh!t he's done, and continues to do, wouldn't even be possible in the Australian political system or government.

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Facing increased criticism over the ongoing conflict with Iran, President Donald Trump promised to learn from his mistakes just as soon as he did something wrong.

"I'll be the first to admit it if it ever happens, which it won't," the president told reporters. "If I ever do anything wrong — which has never happened before in all of human history, it'd be really something if it did happen, frankly — then I promise to learn from my mistakes. I'm a very humble man — maybe even the most humble — so I'm eager to grow and change, if the occasion should call for it."

Trump was forced to commit to correcting his mistakes after repeated questions from the press about why the war with Iran had still not been resolved, his controversial tariff policies, and the rising cost of oil. In response, he reiterated that he was very eager to learn and grow in the unlikely event there would ever be a reason for him to do so.

"Only the fake news would say I ever made a mistake, but if I did, you'd be the first to hear about it," Trump explained. "I would apologize better than any president ever had — certainly better than Obama. Or Sleepy Joe Biden. You could never understand him when he apologized."

At publishing time, Trump had confirmed that the closest he ever came to making a mistake was almost turning down his cameo role in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York.

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Re: How naive to elect a criminal
Reply #13 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 10:23am

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2026 at 10:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 21^st, 2026 at 9:21am:

Everyone talks about how great America is, but they are really not that great and the proof is in what we have seen since Trump first entered politics as a Presidential candidate. It got exponentially worse when he was convicted of several dozen felony sex offences and yet he was still allowed to run for office - even after he was impeached not once, but twice. It shows just how broken the US political system is when Trump can pardon criminals who make payments to him, negating their commitment to repay their victims or serve their jail sentences. He uses pardons to personally enrich himself financially. But the truly ridiculous thing about US politics is that a twice impeached convicted felon can be elected President, but a former Governor of California can't even run for President because while he is a naturalised American citizen, he wasn't born in the US and anyone not born in the US is barred from running for President. It has taken a second Trump presidency to show just how broken and easily corrupted the US government and political system really is. Half the dumb sh!t he's done, and continues to do, wouldn't even be possible in the Australian political system or government.

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Facing increased criticism over the ongoing conflict with Iran, President Donald Trump promised to learn from his mistakes just as soon as he did something wrong.

"I'll be the first to admit it if it ever happens, which it won't," the president told reporters. "If I ever do anything wrong — which has never happened before in all of human history, it'd be really something if it did happen, frankly — then I promise to learn from my mistakes. I'm a very humble man — maybe even the most humble — so I'm eager to grow and change, if the occasion should call for it."

Trump was forced to commit to correcting his mistakes after repeated questions from the press about why the war with Iran had still not been resolved, his controversial tariff policies, and the rising cost of oil. In response, he reiterated that he was very eager to learn and grow in the unlikely event there would ever be a reason for him to do so.

"Only the fake news would say I ever made a mistake, but if I did, you'd be the first to hear about it," Trump explained. "I would apologize better than any president ever had — certainly better than Obama. Or Sleepy Joe Biden. You could never understand him when he apologized."

At publishing time, Trump had confirmed that the closest he ever came to making a mistake was almost turning down his cameo role in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York.

Trump is a great many things. Many, many things. Humble is absolutely NOT one of those things. Not by a long shot.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10905 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: How naive to elect a criminal Reply #14 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 10:33am Just more of Frank's (uncredited) Babylon Bee rubbish.
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