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Re: Chinese car comparisons
Reply #90 - May 8^th, 2026 at 11:06am

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 10:57am:

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 10:49am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 10:40am:

Major explosions at Chinese manufacturing plants are common across the country, with poor and sub-standard storage of explosive materials almost exclusively to blame.

Takata Corporation (タカタ株式会社, Takata Kabushiki Gaisha) was a Japanese automotive parts company.
The company had production facilities on four continents, with its European headquarters located in Germany.

These issues can and do occur in other countries...

The so-called 'Dieselgate' with VW in Germany, or the Beirut fertiliser explosion, for example.

The difference being that authorities in those countries conduct thorough enquiries, allow unhindered national media exposure and impose criminal and financial consequences to those found responsible.

Chinese authorities rarely do so relative to the number that are initially reported.

The fact is that well meaning Govts forced us to have explosives in our cars by law!
They still do it now. Roll Eyes

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Re: Chinese car comparisons
Reply #91 - May 8^th, 2026 at 11:19am

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 11:06am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 10:57am:

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 10:49am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 10:40am:

Major explosions at Chinese manufacturing plants are common across the country, with poor and sub-standard storage of explosive materials almost exclusively to blame.

Takata Corporation (タカタ株式会社, Takata Kabushiki Gaisha) was a Japanese automotive parts company.
The company had production facilities on four continents, with its European headquarters located in Germany.

These issues can and do occur in other countries...

The so-called 'Dieselgate' with VW in Germany, or the Beirut fertiliser explosion, for example.

The difference being that authorities in those countries conduct thorough enquiries, allow unhindered national media exposure and impose criminal and financial consequences to those found responsible.

Chinese authorities rarely do so relative to the number that are initially reported.

The fact is that well meaning Govts forced us to have explosives in our cars by law!
They still do it now. Roll Eyes

We've been driving and travelling in vehicles that contain explosive materials and/or explosive infrastructure since before 1900, so...

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Re: Chinese car comparisons
Reply #92 - May 8^th, 2026 at 5:05pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 11:19am:

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 11:06am:

The fact is that well meaning Govts forced us to have explosives in our cars by law!
They still do it now. Roll Eyes

We've been driving and travelling in vehicles that contain explosive materials and/or explosive infrastructure since before 1900, so...

You mean petrol in the petrol tank?

Don't be so silly. Roll Eyes

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Defective Takata airbags have been linked to over 350 serious injuries and at least 38 deaths worldwide, with 28 fatalities confirmed in the United States since 2009. The defect causes the airbag inflator to rupture explosively upon deployment, sending metal shrapnel into the vehicle cabin, which can cause severe lacerations, traumatic brain injuries, or fatal arterial damage even in low-speed collisions.

The injuries and deaths resulted from ammonium nitrate propellant degrading due to exposure to heat and humidity, a flaw Takata failed to adequately address before the company filed for bankruptcy in 2017. This crisis led to the largest automotive recall in U.S. history, involving over 100 million airbag inflators globally, with millions of vehicles still requiring replacement to mitigate the ongoing risk of fatal rupture.

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Re: Chinese car comparisons
Reply #93 - May 8^th, 2026 at 5:14pm

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 5:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 11:19am:

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 11:06am:

The fact is that well meaning Govts forced us to have explosives in our cars by law!
They still do it now. Roll Eyes

We've been driving and travelling in vehicles that contain explosive materials and/or explosive infrastructure since before 1900, so...

You mean petrol in the petrol tank?

Don't be so silly. Roll Eyes

Google AI:

Defective Takata airbags have been linked to over 350 serious injuries and at least 38 deaths worldwide, with 28 fatalities confirmed in the United States since 2009. The defect causes the airbag inflator to rupture explosively upon deployment, sending metal shrapnel into the vehicle cabin, which can cause severe lacerations, traumatic brain injuries, or fatal arterial damage even in low-speed collisions.

The injuries and deaths resulted from ammonium nitrate propellant degrading due to exposure to heat and humidity, a flaw Takata failed to adequately address before the company filed for bankruptcy in 2017. This crisis led to the largest automotive recall in U.S. history, involving over 100 million airbag inflators globally, with millions of vehicles still requiring replacement to mitigate the ongoing risk of fatal rupture.

What are the stats from petrol and gas burns?

The problem is not the use of explosive and inflammable substances in vehicles... if it were, we also shouldn't be able to buy Lithium-battery-powered electric vehicles.

The issue is illegal cost-cutting or fraudulent means to bypass safety standards.

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Re: Chinese car comparisons
Reply #94 - May 8^th, 2026 at 5:27pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 8^th, 2026 at 5:14pm:

What are the stats from petrol and gas burns?

The problem is not the use of explosive and inflammable substances in vehicles... if it were, we also shouldn't be able to buy Lithium-battery-powered electric vehicles.

The issue is illegal cost-cutting or fraudulent means to bypass safety standards.

Dunno but -
ammonium nitrate propellant degrades due to exposure to heat and humidity.
( I believe it gets more powerful with age - crystalization)

Was it ever a suitable explosive inside an air bag for a car?

What do they use now?

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