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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #45 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:03am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 10:33pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 9:54pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:03pm:

He started this without talking to any allies - not even the United Kingdom.

Most recently, he said the Strait was open, only for it to be closed less than 24 hours later.

He did talk to the UK before he started bombing Iran

Incorrect.

That's right. The one and only leader he spoke to was Netanyahu - Israel. He didn't consult with NATO, nor traditional ally England (Starmer). Hell, he didn't even seek approval from Congress or even the so-called "Gang of Eight". He's required by law to seek permission from Congress before embarking on a war like this. He has broken numerous laws by undertaking this action. He's pissed off so many world leaders over the preceding years and after bad mouthing them for so long and keeping them in the dark on this, he's surprised and angry that they aren't throwing themselves at his feet to help him clean up a mess entirely of his own making? Trump is deranged and delusional. The sooner he's gone, the better.

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Re: I wish those who whine about Trump would just STFU
Reply #46 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:05am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:09pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 7:37pm:

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

You are doing nothing...

Incorrect.

I'm alerting the world to just how evil he is.

Those who remain silent are condoning his war crimes, rapes, and felonies.

Is he a demonic entity?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1617167598/1538#1538

He's a rapist and convicted felon.

Possibly a war criminal too.

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #47 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:07am

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 9:54pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:03pm:

He started this without talking to any allies - not even the United Kingdom.

Most recently, he said the Strait was open, only for it to be closed less than 24 hours later.

He did talk to the UK before he started bombing Iran Starmer told him he couldn't use Diego Garcia or Fairford air bases to attack Iran.

When Iran sent a missile to the UK base in Cyprus Starmer told Trump he could use those air bases against Iran.

The Iranian foreign minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi said Hormuz is open then the Iranians said it is closed despite what some idiot tweets which those with TDS think is Trump.
There is turmoil in Iran the hardliners in IRGC are furious Araghchi is even talking to Trump after he killed the Supreme leader who they haven't even buried.
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Seyed Abbas Araghchi
@araghchi

In line with the ceasefire in Lebanon,the passage for all commercial vessels through Strait of Hormuz is declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire

https://x.com/araghchi/status/2045121573124759713

TDS rots your brain seek help Wink

Starmer told Trump he couldn't use Diego Garcia or Cyprus AFTER Trump started bombing Iran, not before. Get your facts straight. That isn't exactly secret information - it's very easily found if you bother to search for it instead of just blindly trusting the lies Trump feeds you.

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #48 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 11:55am

Things not going so well, eh, Donald?

US-Iran war live updates: Donald Trump ‘screamed at aides’, was excluded from meetings after F-15 was shot down in Iran

Donald Trump’s triumphalism in public apparently doesn’t reflect his anxiety about the Iran War behind the scenes, a stunning new report says.

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Meanwhile, The Wall Street Journal has reported striking new details about Mr Trump’s behaviour behind the scenes, which contrasts with his public stance of claiming everything is going well. It describes the vibe as “public bravado” coupled with “private fear”.

The US President seems to have been particularly exercised about the F-15 that got shot down over Iran earlier this month. Thankfully both airmen were eventually rescued, the second in quite an extraordinary military operation, about which Mr Trump boasted afterwards.

“It was Good Friday afternoon in a nearly empty West Wing soon after the President learned that an American jet had been shot down in Iran, with two airmen missing. Trump screamed at aides for hours,” The Journal reports.

“The Europeans aren’t helping, he said repeatedly. Gas prices averaged $US4.09. Images of the 1979 Iranian hostage crisis - one of the bigger international policy failures of a presidency in recent times - had been looming large in his mind, people who have spoken to him said.”

The story includes a quite striking detail: Mr Trump’s aides apparently “kept the President out of the room as they got minute-by-minute updates” on the efforts to rescue the second missing airman because “they believed his impatience wouldn’t be helpful”.

Reminds me of this (which has been used in parodies many, many times):

Hitler's Rant - Original Video with English Subtitles: Film = Downfall/Der Untergang - HD

Click on the CC icon at the top for English subtitles.

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #49 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 2:18pm

Yes, Donald, get out now would be the best advice.

US-Iran war live updates: United States urged to ‘avoid the sunken cost trap’ and ‘get out now’

Donald Trump’s former head of counterterrorism has given him some urgent advice, proposing a “least bad” option to end the Iran War.

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Meanwhile, Mr Trump’s former head of counterterrorism has publicly urged him to “get out” of the war immediately, even if it’s messy, and “avoid the sunken cost trap”.

“POTUS is laying out two courses of action: a negotiated settlement, or a major escalation,” said Joe Kent, who left that role in March.

“There is a third option, and he should take it. Recognise there is no way to force a positive outcome, and simply leave.

“Don’t double down on failure. Avoid the sunken cost trap, leave now, and put America’s interests first.”

But, we all know he won't do that, don't we?

He can't afford to 'lose face', regardless of how much more death, destruction and economic chaos he causes.

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #50 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 2:36pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 2:18pm:

Yes, Donald, get out now would be the best advice.

US-Iran war live updates: United States urged to ‘avoid the sunken cost trap’ and ‘get out now’

Donald Trump’s former head of counterterrorism has given him some urgent advice, proposing a “least bad” option to end the Iran War.

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Meanwhile, Mr Trump’s former head of counterterrorism has publicly urged him to “get out” of the war immediately, even if it’s messy, and “avoid the sunken cost trap”.

“POTUS is laying out two courses of action: a negotiated settlement, or a major escalation,” said Joe Kent, who left that role in March.

“There is a third option, and he should take it. Recognise there is no way to force a positive outcome, and simply leave.

“Don’t double down on failure. Avoid the sunken cost trap, leave now, and put America’s interests first.”

But, we all know he won't do that, don't we?

He can't afford to 'lose face', regardless of how much more death, destruction and economic chaos he causes.

Yep, death chaos and destruction

Coming to the pensioners of perth.

Vulnerable at the very end of the world's longest fragile supply chain.

One can only hope they have taken " personal responsibility" for their predicament and aren't online doing mental masturbation Embarrassed

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #51 - Apr 20^th, 2026 at 10:41pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:07am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 9:54pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:03pm:

He started this without talking to any allies - not even the United Kingdom.

Most recently, he said the Strait was open, only for it to be closed less than 24 hours later.

He did talk to the UK before he started bombing Iran Starmer told him he couldn't use Diego Garcia or Fairford air bases to attack Iran.

When Iran sent a missile to the UK base in Cyprus Starmer told Trump he could use those air bases against Iran.

The Iranian foreign minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi said Hormuz is open then the Iranians said it is closed despite what some idiot tweets which those with TDS think is Trump.
There is turmoil in Iran the hardliners in IRGC are furious Araghchi is even talking to Trump after he killed the Supreme leader who they haven't even buried.
Quote:

Seyed Abbas Araghchi
@araghchi

In line with the ceasefire in Lebanon,the passage for all commercial vessels through Strait of Hormuz is declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire

https://x.com/araghchi/status/2045121573124759713

TDS rots your brain seek help Wink

Starmer told Trump he couldn't use Diego Garcia or Cyprus AFTER Trump started bombing Iran, not before. Get your facts straight. That isn't exactly secret information - it's very easily found if you bother to search for it instead of just blindly trusting the lies Trump feeds you.

Starmer told Trump he couldn't use Diego Garcia and Fairford Before Trump and Israel started bombing Iran get your facts straight instead of TDS bullshit.

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Britain blocking use of air bases Trump says would be needed for strikes on Iran, UK media reports

Feb 20, 2026

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer has blocked a request from US President Donald Trump to allow US forces to use UK air bases during any preemptive attack on Iran

According to The Times of London, which first reported the split over airbase access, Starmer has denied the use of RAF Fairford in England and Diego Garcia – the British overseas territory in the Indian Ocean – for any strike on Iran.

The two bases have long served as crucial overseas US military staging posts for operations far from home, with Diego Garcia a key airfield for the US’ heavy bomber fleet.

The Times cited UK government sources. The BBC, The Guardian and The Telegraph also subsequently published their own reports on the UK blocking access to the bases, citing sources.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/20/europe/britain-air-base-access-us-iran-intl-h...

US and Israel started bombing Iran on 28th Feb Khamenei was killed on this day.
This was over a week after Starmer denied permission to use those bases to attack Iran.

Qatar has the largest US base in ME they along with Saudis and UAE also told Trump he couldn't use their bases to attack Iran.
All of them backflipped and allowed US to use those bases when Iran attacked them with missiles and drones.

I have a pilot friend in US air force we spoke before this attack he told me being denied use of those bases made it complicated but doable to still attack Iran with carriers and Israel.

The back seat passenger in F15 suffered ankle injury when pilot ejected him over Iran. He either didn't tuck his legs in properly when ejected or suffered it landing under parachute.

It's clear Trump did speak to Starmer before attacking Iran because Starmer didn't let Trump use Diego Garcia or Fairford. Starmer backflipped when Iran sent missiles into UK bases.

Seek help for your TDS

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #52 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 5:50am

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 10:41pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 20^th, 2026 at 6:07am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 9:54pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:03pm:

He started this without talking to any allies - not even the United Kingdom.

Most recently, he said the Strait was open, only for it to be closed less than 24 hours later.

He did talk to the UK before he started bombing Iran Starmer told him he couldn't use Diego Garcia or Fairford air bases to attack Iran.

When Iran sent a missile to the UK base in Cyprus Starmer told Trump he could use those air bases against Iran.

The Iranian foreign minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi said Hormuz is open then the Iranians said it is closed despite what some idiot tweets which those with TDS think is Trump.
There is turmoil in Iran the hardliners in IRGC are furious Araghchi is even talking to Trump after he killed the Supreme leader who they haven't even buried.
Quote:

Seyed Abbas Araghchi
@araghchi

In line with the ceasefire in Lebanon,the passage for all commercial vessels through Strait of Hormuz is declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire

https://x.com/araghchi/status/2045121573124759713

TDS rots your brain seek help Wink

Starmer told Trump he couldn't use Diego Garcia or Cyprus AFTER Trump started bombing Iran, not before. Get your facts straight. That isn't exactly secret information - it's very easily found if you bother to search for it instead of just blindly trusting the lies Trump feeds you.

Starmer told Trump he couldn't use Diego Garcia and Fairford Before Trump and Israel started bombing Iran get your facts straight instead of TDS bullshit.

Quote:

Britain blocking use of air bases Trump says would be needed for strikes on Iran, UK media reports

Feb 20, 2026

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer has blocked a request from US President Donald Trump to allow US forces to use UK air bases during any preemptive attack on Iran

According to The Times of London, which first reported the split over airbase access, Starmer has denied the use of RAF Fairford in England and Diego Garcia – the British overseas territory in the Indian Ocean – for any strike on Iran.

The two bases have long served as crucial overseas US military staging posts for operations far from home, with Diego Garcia a key airfield for the US’ heavy bomber fleet.

The Times cited UK government sources. The BBC, The Guardian and The Telegraph also subsequently published their own reports on the UK blocking access to the bases, citing sources.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/20/europe/britain-air-base-access-us-iran-intl-h...

US and Israel started bombing Iran on 28th Feb Khamenei was killed on this day.
This was over a week after Starmer denied permission to use those bases to attack Iran.

Qatar has the largest US base in ME they along with Saudis and UAE also told Trump he couldn't use their bases to attack Iran.
All of them backflipped and allowed US to use those bases when Iran attacked them with missiles and drones.

I have a pilot friend in US air force we spoke before this attack he told me being denied use of those bases made it complicated but doable to still attack Iran with carriers and Israel.

The back seat passenger in F15 suffered ankle injury when pilot ejected him over Iran. He either didn't tuck his legs in properly when ejected or suffered it landing under parachute.

It's clear Trump did speak to Starmer before attacking Iran because Starmer didn't let Trump use Diego Garcia or Fairford. Starmer backflipped when Iran sent missiles into UK bases.

Seek help for your TDS

The back "passenger" is called the Weapon Systems Officer (WSO), and he doesn't need to tuck his legs in when ejecting. The instant that the ejection is initiated, the ejection seat retracts the shoulder straps to ensure the pilot is sitting upright and also retracts the strap attached to near his ankle to pull his feet back. Unless that part of the ejection seat failed (highly unlikely), the ankle injury occurred as he landed on the ground under his parachute.

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #53 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 9:45am

Yes. Trump really needs to STFU.

A deal to end the Iran war seemed close. Then Trump started posting on social media

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Some Trump officials privately acknowledged to CNN that the president’s public commentary has been detrimental to talks, noting the sensitivity of the negotiations and the Iranians’ deep mistrust of the US. Compounding matters: American officials suspect there is a divide between Iran’s negotiating team, led by Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, and Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, leading to questions about who can ultimately sign off on a deal.

“The Iranians didn’t appreciate POTUS negotiating through social media and making it appear as if they had signed off on issues they hadn’t yet agreed to, and ones that aren’t popular with their people back home,” one person familiar with the talks told CNN, adding that the Iranians are particularly concerned about appearing to look weak.

Instead of a social media ban for young people there needs to be a (permanent) ban for people like Trump.

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #54 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 9:58am

Carl D wrote on Apr 21^st, 2026 at 9:45am:

Yes. Trump really needs to STFU.

A deal to end the Iran war seemed close. Then Trump started posting on social media

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Some Trump officials privately acknowledged to CNN that the president’s public commentary has been detrimental to talks, noting the sensitivity of the negotiations and the Iranians’ deep mistrust of the US. Compounding matters: American officials suspect there is a divide between Iran’s negotiating team, led by Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, and Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, leading to questions about who can ultimately sign off on a deal.

“The Iranians didn’t appreciate POTUS negotiating through social media and making it appear as if they had signed off on issues they hadn’t yet agreed to, and ones that aren’t popular with their people back home,” one person familiar with the talks told CNN, adding that the Iranians are particularly concerned about appearing to look weak.

Instead of a social media ban for young people there needs to be a (permanent) ban for people like Trump.

He had another mental breakdown last night.

The dementia is getting worse every day.

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Re: I wish that Trump would just STFU.
Reply #55 - Apr 21^st, 2026 at 10:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2026 at 9:58am:

He had another mental breakdown last night.

The dementia is getting worse every day.

I love the first comment:

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1 hour ago
This entire "presidency" is like being tied to a chair and watching a toddler play with a loaded pistol.

Funny but 100% correct.

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