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Re: Trump Attacks the POPE
Reply #15 - Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:30pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
The Catholic church has done a lot of good in the world
but it has also done great harm -
it's full of arse bandits and pedophiles -
and sits on unknown huge amounts of money that doesn't go to the poor.


Sounds like Trump, minus the good in the world.



As of 2026, there are over 1.4 billion Catholics worldwide,
representing roughly 17.7% of the global population.

If each one gave $1 per week at church that would equal -
$1.4 billion per week of income -
that is   1.4b x 52 = 72.8 billion per annum of income.
Where is all that money?
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Re: Trump Attacks the POPE
Reply #16 - Apr 14th, 2026 at 6:14pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:16pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 10:49am:
Donnys gone feral.

Fingers itching to get on that nuclear button.

The Iranians egging him on

Israel egging him on.

What's holding him back  ?

Even the pope is so stupid , he is pouring gasoline ⛽️  on an inflamed situation.

Kaboom  Grin Grin


I finally see what you're doing, Scoot.

You went all in on Trump, and now that the wheels have come off and his incompetence is laid bare, you're scrambling. The pattern is obvious, a trail of failures, with the most consequential being that petty, ego-driven fixation on dismantling anything associated with Barack Obama, only to replace it with inferior vanity projects stamped with his own name. That impulse hasn't just been cosmetic, it has had material consequences, including the strategic collapse around Iran and the broader destabilisation that followed.

The problem for you is simpler, and more personal. You're too invested, too ego-bound to admit you got it wrong. Admitting that the people you dismiss on "the left" called this trajectory early would require a level of intellectual honesty you're clearly unwilling to engage with. Instead, you double down, or worse, you retreat into this revisionist posture where it was all "just trolling", all along.

But that doesn't wash. That's not a clever pivot, it's a transparent attempt at reputational salvage. You're trying to recast yourself, not as someone who was taken in by one of the most obvious conmen in modern politics, but as someone who was in on the joke. It's an appeal to irony as a shield against accountability.

It fails.

You didn't study Trump, you admired him. You held him up as a model, an archetype of the so-called "alpha", something to emulate, something to study. That wasn't ironic distance, it was genuine buy-in.

And now you're left with the consequences of that alignment. No amount of post hoc reframing changes the underlying reality, you backed the wrong horse, you were sold a fiction, and you were dumb enough to buy it wholesale.

Call it what it is. You were conned, and trying to rewrite that fact now just compounds the error.


Ego-bound? Reputational salvage? Post-hoc reframing?

Come come. Aquascoot's just changed his mind, that's all. He's gone from worshipping the fridge and bravely lining up for his clot shots to championing nuclear war and Armageddonism.

It's hard to tell why he's thrown out all those high-minded valued he used to lecture us on. The Superior Man's a little bit shifty. When he is given lemons, he makes himself a tasty lemonade.

When his DL goes down, he converts to cannibalism.

Belt and braces, innit.
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Re: Trump Attacks the POPE
Reply #17 - Apr 14th, 2026 at 6:22pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:16pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 10:49am:
Donnys gone feral.

Fingers itching to get on that nuclear button.

The Iranians egging him on

Israel egging him on.

What's holding him back  ?

Even the pope is so stupid , he is pouring gasoline ⛽️  on an inflamed situation.

Kaboom  Grin Grin


I finally see what you're doing, Scoot.

You went all in on Trump, and now that the wheels have come off and his incompetence is laid bare, you're scrambling. The pattern is obvious, a trail of failures, with the most consequential being that petty, ego-driven fixation on dismantling anything associated with Barack Obama, only to replace it with inferior vanity projects stamped with his own name. That impulse hasn't just been cosmetic, it has had material consequences, including the strategic collapse around Iran and the broader destabilisation that followed.

The problem for you is simpler, and more personal. You're too invested, too ego-bound to admit you got it wrong. Admitting that the people you dismiss on "the left" called this trajectory early would require a level of intellectual honesty you're clearly unwilling to engage with. Instead, you double down, or worse, you retreat into this revisionist posture where it was all "just trolling", all along.

But that doesn't wash. That's not a clever pivot, it's a transparent attempt at reputational salvage. You're trying to recast yourself, not as someone who was taken in by one of the most obvious conmen in modern politics, but as someone who was in on the joke. It's an appeal to irony as a shield against accountability.

It fails.

You didn't study Trump, you admired him. You held him up as a model, an archetype of the so-called "alpha", something to emulate, something to study. That wasn't ironic distance, it was genuine buy-in.

And now you're left with the consequences of that alignment. No amount of post hoc reframing changes the underlying reality, you backed the wrong horse, you were sold a fiction, and you were dumb enough to buy it wholesale.

Call it what it is. You were conned, and trying to rewrite that fact now just compounds the error.


Incorrect

Understanding someone's motivation is not endorsing it.

The Jews are religious fanatics
The Iranians are religious fanatics.
Donny is an old guy who wants to out with a splash.

Trying to study the psychodynamics of this triad is not judging it or being conned.
And remember
Every judgement is a confession.

You also have to know your limitations.
Nothing you or I can do will have any effect.

Naive people say " all that is required for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing".
Not much can be done to diffuse 1000 years of religious fanaticism.
And nuclear armed as well.

The wise  man studies it , makes what plans he can and makes peace with the fact that it is quite likely Australia faces a food and energy crisis.

That's not cheering it on.
Thats studying the form of the players who will determine this.

If studying it is too scarey, go study covid with carl  Smiley


He's right, Sad. When his DL creates a food and energy crisis, the SM emails him, advising him to short the oil market and make a few more bil.

That's not cheering him on, it's applying a scholarly analysis on the players who determine this.

Ask Aquascoot for his source if you don't believe me.
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Re: Trump Attacks the POPE
Reply #18 - Apr 15th, 2026 at 7:05am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:30pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
The Catholic church has done a lot of good in the world
but it has also done great harm -
it's full of arse bandits and pedophiles -
and sits on unknown huge amounts of money that doesn't go to the poor.


Sounds like Trump, minus the good in the world.



As of 2026, there are over 1.4 billion Catholics worldwide,
representing roughly 17.7% of the global population.

If each one gave $1 per week at church that would equal -
$1.4 billion per week of income -
that is   1.4b x 52 = 72.8 billion per annum of income.
Where is all that money?


You're the one who claimed they did good in the world, not me.

Any of their activity that isn't directly related to their charitable efforts should be taxed like any other business.  Every dollar.  I've always been supportive of at least that measure, if not more.

But I suppose not paying taxes, raping children, the more you talk about it, the more similarities with Trump that you seem to be uncovering.
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Re: Trump Attacks the POPE
Reply #19 - Apr 15th, 2026 at 7:19am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
Incorrect

Understanding someone's motivation is not endorsing it.

The Jews are religious fanatics
The Iranians are religious fanatics.
Donny is an old guy who wants to out with a splash.

Trying to study the psychodynamics of this triad is not judging it or being conned.
And remember
Every judgement is a confession.

You also have to know your limitations.
Nothing you or I can do will have any effect.

Naive people say " all that is required for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing".
Not much can be done to diffuse 1000 years of religious fanaticism.
And nuclear armed as well.

The wise  man studies it , makes what plans he can and makes peace with the fact that it is quite likely Australia faces a food and energy crisis.

That's not cheering it on.
Thats studying the form of the players who will determine this.

If studying it is too scarey, go study covid with carl  Smiley


No, Scoot, that's not what you've been doing, and trying to rebrand it as detached "psychodynamics" doesn't suddenly make it so.

You don't get to spend years cheerleading for Donald Trump, framing him as some kind of decisive, anti-establishment strongman, and then, when the consequences arrive exactly as predicted, pivot into the pose of a dispassionate observer "studying the players". That's not analysis, it's revisionism.

"Understanding motivation is not endorsement" is a nice line, but it only works if there was ever any real distance. There wasn't. You weren't sitting above it all like some neutral academic, you were actively buying into the persona, the rhetoric, the whole "alpha" mythology that surrounded him. Now that it's unravelled into volatility, escalation, incoherence, and strategic incoherence, you're trying to launder that past support into something that sounds intellectual.

It's not working.

And this fatalistic routine about "nothing can be done" is just the next layer of the same dodge. It conveniently absolves you from having to reckon with the fact that political choices, narratives, and support do shape outcomes. You don't get to amplify a figure like Trump, dismiss criticism at the time, and then retreat into "well, it was all inevitable anyway" when it goes sideways.

As for the "everyone's a fanatic" framing, that's just flattening reality to avoid engaging with specifics. Lumping complex geopolitical actors into a neat little triad of inevitability might feel clever, but it's lazy. It replaces analysis with cynicism and calls it wisdom.

Misunderstanding wisdom is pretty much you in a nutshell.

And the "every judgement is a confession" line isn't insight, it's a shield. It's a way to dodge accountability by pretending that calling out obvious patterns is somehow just projection. It isn't. Sometimes a bad call is just a bad call.

This isn't about being "too scared" to study anything. It's about recognising the difference between actually analysing a situation and retroactively pretending you were never invested in it.

You weren't studying Trump, you backed him. Now you're trying to rewrite that as detachment because the outcome is indefensible.

That's not wisdom, it's damage control, presented poorly, as philosophy.

And what for? All of this theatre just to avoid the simple admission that you were wrong about Donald Trump. Instead of owning it, you've escalated into this absurd posture where years of very real support are retroactively recast as some kind of elaborate troll, purely to salvage your own ego.

No one's buying it. The pattern is obvious to anyone paying attention.

What you're doing isn't analysis, and it isn't detachment, it's reputational triage. You backed one of the most transparently dishonest political figures in modern memory, and now you're trying to intellectualise your way out of the consequences of that call.

You don't get to rewrite history just because it's become inconvenient.
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Re: Trump Attacks the POPE
Reply #20 - Apr 15th, 2026 at 7:49am
 
Pope complain to his imam about Trump.
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Re: Trump Attacks the POPE
Reply #21 - Apr 15th, 2026 at 9:38am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 15th, 2026 at 7:19am:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 14th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
Incorrect

Understanding someone's motivation is not endorsing it.

The Jews are religious fanatics
The Iranians are religious fanatics.
Donny is an old guy who wants to out with a splash.

Trying to study the psychodynamics of this triad is not judging it or being conned.
And remember
Every judgement is a confession.

You also have to know your limitations.
Nothing you or I can do will have any effect.

Naive people say " all that is required for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing".
Not much can be done to diffuse 1000 years of religious fanaticism.
And nuclear armed as well.

The wise  man studies it , makes what plans he can and makes peace with the fact that it is quite likely Australia faces a food and energy crisis.

That's not cheering it on.
Thats studying the form of the players who will determine this.

If studying it is too scarey, go study covid with carl  Smiley


No, Scoot, that's not what you've been doing, and trying to rebrand it as detached "psychodynamics" doesn't suddenly make it so.

You don't get to spend years cheerleading for Donald Trump, framing him as some kind of decisive, anti-establishment strongman, and then, when the consequences arrive exactly as predicted, pivot into the pose of a dispassionate observer "studying the players". That's not analysis, it's revisionism.

"Understanding motivation is not endorsement" is a nice line, but it only works if there was ever any real distance. There wasn't. You weren't sitting above it all like some neutral academic, you were actively buying into the persona, the rhetoric, the whole "alpha" mythology that surrounded him. Now that it's unravelled into volatility, escalation, incoherence, and strategic incoherence, you're trying to launder that past support into something that sounds intellectual.

It's not working.

And this fatalistic routine about "nothing can be done" is just the next layer of the same dodge. It conveniently absolves you from having to reckon with the fact that political choices, narratives, and support do shape outcomes. You don't get to amplify a figure like Trump, dismiss criticism at the time, and then retreat into "well, it was all inevitable anyway" when it goes sideways.

As for the "everyone's a fanatic" framing, that's just flattening reality to avoid engaging with specifics. Lumping complex geopolitical actors into a neat little triad of inevitability might feel clever, but it's lazy. It replaces analysis with cynicism and calls it wisdom.

Misunderstanding wisdom is pretty much you in a nutshell.

And the "every judgement is a confession" line isn't insight, it's a shield. It's a way to dodge accountability by pretending that calling out obvious patterns is somehow just projection. It isn't. Sometimes a bad call is just a bad call.

This isn't about being "too scared" to study anything. It's about recognising the difference between actually analysing a situation and retroactively pretending you were never invested in it.

You weren't studying Trump, you backed him. Now you're trying to rewrite that as detachment because the outcome is indefensible.

That's not wisdom, it's damage control, presented poorly, as philosophy.

And what for? All of this theatre just to avoid the simple admission that you were wrong about Donald Trump. Instead of owning it, you've escalated into this absurd posture where years of very real support are retroactively recast as some kind of elaborate troll, purely to salvage your own ego.

No one's buying it. The pattern is obvious to anyone paying attention.

What you're doing isn't analysis, and it isn't detachment, it's reputational triage. You backed one of the most transparently dishonest political figures in modern memory, and now you're trying to intellectualise your way out of the consequences of that call.

You don't get to rewrite history just because it's become inconvenient.


I know, Sad, but Aquascoot will change, you'll see. SM's a little bit mutable.

When the Dems get back in, Aquascoot will get some critical perspective back, you'll see.

Newscum will be corrupt, evil and so unfair again - why are the left so monstrous?

We'll be back onto Nancy's gay hubby - why are the left so perverted?

We'll be back onto Karmala lying about her job at Maccas - why must the left lie?

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!
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Reply #22 - Apr 15th, 2026 at 10:55am
 
tallowood wrote on Apr 15th, 2026 at 7:49am:
Pope complain to his imam about Trump.
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Is he sun'in or shi't?
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Reply #23 - Apr 16th, 2026 at 12:21pm
 
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Reply #24 - Apr 18th, 2026 at 3:34am
 
trump has cancelled funding for catholic charities who help homeless children.

he punishes homeless children to show the world he is a better christian than the pope

this is his method, he has stolen from a childs charity before
this is americas way, kill, rape, murder.
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Reply #25 - Apr 19th, 2026 at 11:31pm
 
Has the Pope mentioned Christians being slaughtered by muslims in Nigeria or Africa or maybe even Syria recently?
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Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19th, 2026 at 11:31pm:
Has the Pope mentioned Christians being slaughtered by muslims in Nigeria or Africa or maybe even Syria recently?



WASHINGTON, D.C. - In response to the Christianity Today editorial calling for his removal, Trump called the magazine a "left-wing rag" and said, "I have done more for Christianity than Jesus."

"I mean, the name of the magazine is Christianity Today, and who is doing more for Christians today? Not Jesus. He disappeared; no one knows what happened to him. But I'm out there every day protecting churches from crazy liberals."

While Trump admitted that Jesus did do some things for Christianity in the past, Trump said he was doing more now and it was more substantial. "I'm appointing judges to help protect religious rights," Trump stated. "How many judges has Jesus appointed? He says something about judging people in the future, but I ain't seen it."

Furthermore, Trump asserted that he "saved Christmas." "Look what I've done," he said. "You can say 'Merry Christmas' now. In fact, if you say 'Happy Holidays' and don't immediately make it clear you're referring to Christmas, you go to prison. What has Jesus ever done for Christmas? Be born? He wants credit for that? Come on."
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Reply #27 - Yesterday at 4:01pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 1:02pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19th, 2026 at 11:31pm:
Has the Pope mentioned Christians being slaughtered by muslims in Nigeria or Africa or maybe even Syria recently?



WASHINGTON, D.C. - In response to the Christianity Today editorial calling for his removal, Trump called the magazine a "left-wing rag" and said, "I have done more for Christianity than Jesus."

"I mean, the name of the magazine is Christianity Today, and who is doing more for Christians today? Not Jesus. He disappeared; no one knows what happened to him. But I'm out there every day protecting churches from crazy liberals."

While Trump admitted that Jesus did do some things for Christianity in the past, Trump said he was doing more now and it was more substantial. "I'm appointing judges to help protect religious rights," Trump stated. "How many judges has Jesus appointed? He says something about judging people in the future, but I ain't seen it."

Furthermore, Trump asserted that he "saved Christmas." "Look what I've done," he said. "You can say 'Merry Christmas' now. In fact, if you say 'Happy Holidays' and don't immediately make it clear you're referring to Christmas, you go to prison. What has Jesus ever done for Christmas? Be born? He wants credit for that? Come on."


DL's done more than Martin Luther, dear chap.

As a devout Lutheran, you must concur, no?
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