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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7735 Gender:	Israeli society addicted to self defense Reply #90 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 8:19am Quote: ⚡️The IDF destroyed a Hezbollah underground city in southern Lebanon. The tunnel network, over 2 kilometers long and up to 25 meters deep, included approximately 30 entrances, living quarters, bathrooms, kitchens, weapons storage, and passages.
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Reply #91 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 10:55am

tallowood wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 8:19am:

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⚡️The IDF destroyed a Hezbollah underground city in southern Lebanon.

The tunnel network, over 2 kilometers long and up to 25 meters deep, included approximately 30 entrances, living quarters, bathrooms, kitchens, weapons storage, and passages.

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tallowood,

Hezbollah in Lebanon..........and HAMAS in Gaza.....

With the resources WHICH THEY DID EXPEND [use] [$100's of millions ?? ],
how many hospitals
or old people homes
could Hezbollah or HAMAS have constructed
[i.e. for the BENEFIT of their own communities] ???

Hezbollah and HAMAS.

Demented, idiots.

demented = =
1 suffering from dementia.
2 wild and irrational.

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Reply #92 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #93 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #94 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:22am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

Are you offering excuses for why you never got to the point Meister? If only you were as good at making sense as you are at changing the topic.

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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #95 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:29am

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

Are you offering excuses for why you never got to the point Meister? If only you were as good at making sense as you are at changing the topic.

Your teenage psychiatry is playing up today... Off the pills?

Look up the meaning of 'root cause' and get back to me...

What was the root cause of Jewish uprisings and revolts against Rome?

Was it (a) Judaism, (b) Polytheism, (c) Other?

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Israeli society addicted to self defense
Reply #96 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:42am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

So now you blame Jews for Eureka Rebellion?
All Jew haters are idiots and you just confirmed that Grin

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Re: Israeli society addicted to self defense
Reply #97 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 12:11pm

tallowood wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:42am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

So now you blame Jews for Eureka Rebellion?
All Jew haters are idiots and you just confirmed that Grin

Here’s one for you…

What is the root cause of Taiwan’s contempt for mainland China? Buddhism?

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Reply #98 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 12:15pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 12:11pm:

tallowood wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:42am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

So now you blame Jews for Eureka Rebellion?
All Jew haters are idiots and you just confirmed that Grin

Here’s one for you…

What is the root cause of Taiwan’s contempt for mainland China? Buddhism?

Proves what I just said about all Jew haters Grin

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Reply #100 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 2:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

You are peddling idiocies, pal. If the root cause of murdering News on Bondi Beach is the behaviour of Jews in the WB, then we can and should also say that the Muslims of ISIS are the same as the Muslims of Lakemba.

Or maybe you ARE right. The Jews are all the same,Muslims are all the same, Catholics, Buddhists, all the same.

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Reply #101 - Apr 29^th, 2026 at 2:38pm

Frank wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 2:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

freediver wrote on Apr 29^th, 2026 at 3:19am:

Meister, have you worked up the courage to tell us what the root cause is?

Are you being so coy about it because you are trying to figure out the polite way to say that you feel compelled to gun down Jew on the streets of Sydney because they fled Europe during the holocaust?

So, you're unfamiliar with the concept of root cause... Not surprising...

And the root cause of Christians being harassed out of the West Bank is what? Judaism?

Palestinian Christians are being pushed out from the West Bank, especially through settler violence, land seizure, demolitions, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, and intimidation.

Do you feel motivated to slaughter Jews on the streets of Sydney because of this, and blame it all on the Jews?

And the root cause of the Eureka Rebellion was what? Americanism?

You are peddling idiocies, pal. If the root cause of murdering News on Bondi Beach is the behaviour of Jews in the WB, then we can and should also say that the Muslims of ISIS are the same as the Muslims of Lakemba.

Or maybe you ARE right. The Jews are all the same,Muslims are all the same, Catholics, Buddhists, all the same.

The common reference is the lack of comprehension of the term 'root cause'.

The root cause of the Arab-Israeli conflict was perceived foreign invasion by a persecuted people abandoning their European host countries en masse for the ancient former homeland of their religious culture.

Even Jabotinsky, the father of Revisionist (militant) Zionism and its direct descendant - the Likud Party, acknowledged the justice and merit in the resistance of the Arabs to this invasion... his solution? 'If we're going to be invaders, then don't offer the would-be vanquished our duplicitous words, our deceitful handshakes and our false promises of submission to their culture and laws... act as invaders - with bombs and steel.'

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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #102 - Yesterday at 10:15am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 28^th, 2026 at 5:36pm:

None of your arguments or "root causes" stand up to inspection. They all disappear in a puff of long winded hot air. Now you don't even have the balls to say what your "root cause" is.

Not only do they stand up to inspection, but they are also directly transcribed from documented historical facts.

Not only do I have the balls to say what that root cause is, But I have posted them here:

Revisionist Zionism, greatly bolstered and emboldened by early 20th-century European persecution and murders (stratospherically after the Holocaust) of Jews, determined that a Jewish homeland would be established by all means necessary, regardless of the brutal means needed to cleanse the region of its current inhabitants, including forced expulsion or murder.

The ghost of Jabotinsky will haunt (some may say plague) Israeli society for all time... His cold and brutal point was: if Zionism is to progress to its conclusion, then it must proceed via the fastest route available, which necessarily includes offensive military action - to take the land from its current inhabitants, who will otherwise never. by negotiation, vacate their homes and cede them to usurpers... otherwise, Zionism must stop.

My question to you is:

Do you have what it takes to support Israel and yet accept the historical facts of the Arab-Israeli conflict without descending into teenage rants?

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Reply #103 - Yesterday at 11:21am

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 10:15am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 28^th, 2026 at 5:36pm:

None of your arguments or "root causes" stand up to inspection. They all disappear in a puff of long winded hot air. Now you don't even have the balls to say what your "root cause" is.

Not only do they stand up to inspection, but they are also directly transcribed from documented historical facts.

Not only do I have the balls to say what that root cause is, But I have posted them here:

Revisionist Zionism, greatly bolstered and emboldened by early 20th-century European persecution and murders (stratospherically after the Holocaust) of Jews, determined that a Jewish homeland would be established by all means necessary, regardless of the brutal means needed to cleanse the region of its current inhabitants, including forced expulsion or murder.

The ghost of Jabotinsky will haunt (some may say plague) Israeli society for all time... His cold and brutal point was: if Zionism is to progress to its conclusion, then it must proceed via the fastest route available, which necessarily includes offensive military action - to take the land from its current inhabitants, who will otherwise never. by negotiation, vacate their homes and cede them to usurpers... otherwise, Zionism must stop.

My question to you is:

Do you have what it takes to support Israel and yet accept the historical facts of the Arab-Israeli conflict without descending into teenage rants?

You make Jabotinsky and his views the root cause.

But as every schoolboy knows, where there are three Jews there are four opinions/views. So you need to raise your eyes to a wider horizon than Jabotinsky.

The Palestinians could have created a country for themselves the same day the Jews did. They chose war instead.
Then they had another 5-6 chances to create a country for themselves in the next 8 decades and each time chose jihad instead.

Two to tango, what?

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Reply #104 - Yesterday at 12:32pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 10:15am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 28^th, 2026 at 5:36pm:

None of your arguments or "root causes" stand up to inspection. They all disappear in a puff of long winded hot air. Now you don't even have the balls to say what your "root cause" is.

Not only do they stand up to inspection, but they are also directly transcribed from documented historical facts.

Not only do I have the balls to say what that root cause is, But I have posted them here:

Revisionist Zionism, greatly bolstered and emboldened by early 20th-century European persecution and murders (stratospherically after the Holocaust) of Jews, determined that a Jewish homeland would be established by all means necessary, regardless of the brutal means needed to cleanse the region of its current inhabitants, including forced expulsion or murder.

The ghost of Jabotinsky will haunt (some may say plague) Israeli society for all time... His cold and brutal point was: if Zionism is to progress to its conclusion, then it must proceed via the fastest route available, which necessarily includes offensive military action - to take the land from its current inhabitants, who will otherwise never. by negotiation, vacate their homes and cede them to usurpers... otherwise, Zionism must stop.

My question to you is:

Do you have what it takes to support Israel and yet accept the historical facts of the Arab-Israeli conflict without descending into teenage rants?

You make Jabotinsky and his views the root cause.

But as every schoolboy knows, where there are three Jews there are four opinions/views. So you need to raise your eyes to a wider horizon than Jabotinsky.

The Palestinians could have created a country for themselves the same day the Jews did. They chose war instead.
Then they had another 5-6 chances to create a country for themselves in the next 8 decades and each time chose jihad instead.

Two to tango, what?

The same spurious argument could be levelled at Ukrainians. They had multiple chances to sue for peace with Russia by ceding land... instead, they are determined to defend all their land, and now including Crimea... enduring all the sacrifice and suffering that a prolonged major war entails.

As Jabotinsky warned the Zionists, Arabs are not fools... they're not taken in by lies about peaceful coexistence within a part of Palestine... they too had read Zionist manifestos and had interacted with the most zealous of Zionists. They were under no illusion about the aim of Zionism...

He advocated for not treating the Arabs like fools and doing what must be done to achieve Zionism's ultimate aim, and let the Arabs do what they must: Resist Zionism with all they had... he expected nothing less from the Arabs as honourable people but to attack the invaders with all they had...

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