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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #195 - May 19th, 2026 at 7:33pm
 
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:08pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:03pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 6:52pm:
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well-respected newspaper like the Independent

So show how they are lies.

You did not show how it is well respected by who.

Pathetic dodge.
Show how they are lies.


Pathetic dodger.

Show how it is well respected by who.


So you can't/won't show how they are lies.

Anyone?


So you keep bullshitting without proving anything.
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Reply #196 - May 19th, 2026 at 7:41pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:33pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:08pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:03pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 6:52pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 6:30pm:
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well-respected newspaper like the Independent

So show how they are lies.

You did not show how it is well respected by who.

Pathetic dodge.
Show how they are lies.


Pathetic dodger.

Show how it is well respected by who.


So you can't/won't show how they are lies.

Anyone?


So you keep bullshitting without proving anything.


What bullshit?

I asked why The Independent newspaper would publish lies.

Still waiting.
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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #197 - May 19th, 2026 at 8:06pm
 
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:41pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:33pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:08pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:03pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 6:52pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 6:30pm:
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well-respected newspaper like the Independent

So show how they are lies.

You did not show how it is well respected by who.

Pathetic dodge.
Show how they are lies.


Pathetic dodger.

Show how it is well respected by who.


So you can't/won't show how they are lies.

Anyone?


So you keep bullshitting without proving anything.


What bullshit?

I asked why The Independent newspaper would publish lies.

Still waiting.


and I asked to prove that The Independent newspaper is well respected.

It is obvious that you can't do it so I am not waiting any longer.



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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #198 - May 22nd, 2026 at 4:46pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 8:06pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:41pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:33pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:08pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 7:03pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 6:52pm:
tallowood wrote on May 19th, 2026 at 6:30pm:
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well-respected newspaper like the Independent

So show how they are lies.

You did not show how it is well respected by who.

Pathetic dodge.
Show how they are lies.


Pathetic dodger.

Show how it is well respected by who.


So you can't/won't show how they are lies.

Anyone?


So you keep bullshitting without proving anything.


What bullshit?

I asked why The Independent newspaper would publish lies.

Still waiting.


I asked to prove that The Independent newspaper is well respected.



You can't show how they are lies so instead you're grasping at straws.

Frank ran away so anyone else?
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Reply #199 - May 22nd, 2026 at 9:23pm
 
Israel IS a country.


The PLO and Hamas, Hezb'allah are not. They are terrorist organisations funded by an Islamic terrorist state.

A country has every right and duty to defend itself from terrorists. That is all Israel is doing.


You morons would be on Israel's side if it wasnt Jewish.

So *uck orff. You are just upset about the Jews not going along with another holocaust. 


Despicable.



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Reply #200 - May 23rd, 2026 at 6:44pm
 
Frank wrote on May 22nd, 2026 at 9:23pm:
Israel IS a country.


The PLO and Hamas, Hezb'allah are not. They are terrorist organisations funded by an Islamic terrorist state.

A country has every right and duty to defend itself from terrorists. That is all Israel is doing.


You morons would be on Israel's side if it wasnt Jewish.

So *uck orff. You are just upset about the Jews not going along with another holocaust. 


Despicable.






So you're back. Why won't you say why you think that news outlet would publish lies?

And you really are dense when it comes to international law. But before I get into that I'll wait for you to address the above.
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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #201 - May 23rd, 2026 at 10:18pm
 
waggawoody wrote on May 23rd, 2026 at 6:44pm:
Frank wrote on May 22nd, 2026 at 9:23pm:
Israel IS a country.


The PLO and Hamas, Hezb'allah are not. They are terrorist organisations funded by an Islamic terrorist state.

A country has every right and duty to defend itself from terrorists. That is all Israel is doing.


You morons would be on Israel's side if it wasnt Jewish.

So *uck orff. You are just upset about the Jews not going along with another holocaust. 


Despicable.






So you're back. Why won't you say why you think that news outlet would publish lies?

And you really are dense when it comes to international law. But before I get into that I'll wait for you to address the above.

Translate, bozo.

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Three thousand years ago, the Jews received the Torah on Mount Sinai.

Chag Shavuot Sameach!



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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #203 - May 24th, 2026 at 4:23pm
 
More forced to defend all the time:-

https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/their-abc/their-abcs-gaza-fantasyland/?fbc...

Escerpts:-

“On September 2 last year, the ABC reported that “the world’s leading genocide scholars” condemned Israel for genocide in Gaza.”

“As Israel’s conduct in Gaza comes under greater and greater scrutiny, the world’s leading association of genocide scholars has backed a resolution saying its conduct in the strip has met the legal criteria to be considered a genocide. Of the 500 members voting on the resolution, 86 per cent backed it, saying that the threshold has been met, meeting the criteria of the Geneva Convention.”

“Concerning the ABC-respected International Association of Genocide Scholars, the research group demonstrates that it is nothing more than an anti-Israel lobby group.
Anyone can become a member on payment of $US30.”
“membership has ballooned from 144 to about 500. The 500 registered members include, improbably, “Adolf Hitler”, Cookie Monster, and someone calling themselves “Sheev Palpatine”, referencing the evil alien Emperor from Star Wars. About 15% of the so-called ‘genocide scholars’ live in Iraq.”

“Those of us who opposed the resolution attempted to submit our concerns for discussion but were blocked by the leadership.“

“The ICC actually found merely that Palestinians had a plausible right to be protected from genocide. The ICC President Joan E. Donoghue explicitly clarified this mild finding.”

“These [genocide] claims have no factual basis. However, the scale of this propaganda has created an environment that contributed to social radicalisation and the escalation of militant antisemitism across Australia. The normalisation of unproven genocide allegations has created an environment in which Jews who support Israel are routinely demonised and marginalised.”
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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #204 - May 25th, 2026 at 6:51pm
 
And you still avoid explaining why you think The Independent would publish lies.

Why?

Frank wrote on May 22nd, 2026 at 9:23pm:
Israel IS a country.


Which was created by terrorism. Hey, Zionist Jews even committed acts of terrorism against Jews in neighbouring countries to make then panic and flee, thereby solving, at least in part, a major problem Zionists had - populating Palestine where Jews were a minority.

The ones you call terrorists are simply defending their land, as they are entitled to do under international law.

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A country has every right and duty to defend itself from terrorists. That is all Israel is doing.


Like I said, you are clueless about international law. You cannot distinguish between attacks on a sovereign state by another sovereign state and attacks on an occupying state by the people it illegally occupies.

Here's some reading for you. Try and learn something for a change:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/11/the-right-of-self-defence/

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/09/no-israel-does-not-have-a-right-to-defend-itself-...

And Francesca Albanese, UN special rapporteur on Palestine, says Israel’s assault on Gaza is without legal merit as ‘self-defense cannot apply in a context of military occupation’

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2399561/middle-east

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Reply #205 - May 25th, 2026 at 6:56pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 24th, 2026 at 4:23pm:
More forced to defend all the time:-

https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/their-abc/their-abcs-gaza-fantasyland/?fbc...

Escerpts:-

“On September 2 last year, the ABC reported that “the world’s leading genocide scholars” condemned Israel for genocide in Gaza.”

“As Israel’s conduct in Gaza comes under greater and greater scrutiny, the world’s leading association of genocide scholars has backed a resolution saying its conduct in the strip has met the legal criteria to be considered a genocide. Of the 500 members voting on the resolution, 86 per cent backed it, saying that the threshold has been met, meeting the criteria of the Geneva Convention.”

“Concerning the ABC-respected International Association of Genocide Scholars, the research group demonstrates that it is nothing more than an anti-Israel lobby group.
Anyone can become a member on payment of $US30.”
“membership has ballooned from 144 to about 500. The 500 registered members include, improbably, “Adolf Hitler”, Cookie Monster, and someone calling themselves “Sheev Palpatine”, referencing the evil alien Emperor from Star Wars. About 15% of the so-called ‘genocide scholars’ live in Iraq.”

“Those of us who opposed the resolution attempted to submit our concerns for discussion but were blocked by the leadership.“

“The ICC actually found merely that Palestinians had a plausible right to be protected from genocide. The ICC President Joan E. Donoghue explicitly clarified this mild finding.”

“These [genocide] claims have no factual basis. However, the scale of this propaganda has created an environment that contributed to social radicalisation and the escalation of militant antisemitism across Australia. The normalisation of unproven genocide allegations has created an environment in which Jews who support Israel are routinely demonised and marginalised.”


Why no mention of Israel's leading human rights groups:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-29/israeli-orgs-label-gaza-situation-genocid...
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Reply #206 - May 28th, 2026 at 8:17pm
 
Frank wrote on May 15th, 2026 at 9:43pm:



Since you've repeatedly failed to back up your claim of 'bollocks' let's take a closer look:

The Independent: "2 The ancient Greeks thought our eyes emitted rays, like a laser, which enabled us to see. The first person to realise that light enters the eye, rather than leaving it, was the 10th-century Muslim mathematician, astronomer and physicist Ibn al-Haitham."

What do other sources say?

"Ibn al-Haytham (born c. 965, Basra, Iraq—died c. 1040, Cairo, Egypt) was a mathematician and astronomer who made significant contributions to the principles of optics and the use of scientific experiments... Ibn al-Haytham’s most important work is Kitāb al-manāẓir (which) contains the correct model of vision: the passive reception by the eyes of light rays reflected from objects, not an active emanation of light rays from the eyes."
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ibn-al-Haytham

And if you think the Encyclopedia Britannica is not a reliable and trustworthy source you are a moron.

The Independent: "4 A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine...Baghdad international airport and a crater on the Moon are named after him."

What do other sources say?

"Abbas ibn Firnas (c. 810–887 CE) was an Andalusian polymath of Berber origin, celebrated as an inventor, engineer, chemist, physician, astronomer, poet, and musician during the Islamic Golden Age in Al-Andalus.[1] Best known for pioneering aviation technology, he constructed and piloted one of the world's earliest recorded attempts at heavier-than-air flight in 875 CE, using a winged glider made from wood, silk, and feathers, which allowed him to glide for several minutes before a rough landing that inspired later designs with stabilizing tails... Firnas's aviation endeavors, detailed in an 11th-century historical manuscript, involved observing birds and constructing a winged glider launched from a hill near Córdoba, achieving a flight witnessed by contemporaries but ending in injury due to the absence of a tail mechanism for controlled descent.[2] His innovations influenced subsequent inventors and earned posthumous recognition, including a crater on the Moon named in his honor by the International Astronomical Union in 1976."
https://grokipedia.com/page/Abbas_ibn_Firnas

The Independent: "7 The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari to raise water for irrigation. His 1206 Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices shows he also invented or refined the use of valves and pistons, devised some of the first mechanical clocks driven by water and weights, and was the father of robotics. Among his 50 other inventions was the combination lock."

What do other sources say?

"al-Jazarī was a Muslim inventor. He is remembered for his automaton designs, including water-operated automatons... Leonardo da Vinci is said to have been influenced by the classic automatons of al-Jazarī."
https://www.britannica.com/biography/al-Jazari

The Independent: "10 Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised are recognisable to a modern surgeon. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey ate his lute strings) and that it can be also used to make medicine capsules. In the 13th century, another Muslim medic named Ibn Nafis described the circulation of the blood, 300 years before William Harvey discovered it. Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today."

What do other sources say?

"Abū al-Qāsim al-Zahrāwī and Al-Taṣrīf li-man ʿajaz ʿan al-taʾālīf (c. 1000 ce): Abū al-Qāsim al-Zahrāwī, a medieval surgeon of Andalusian Spain, compiled a comprehensive medical encyclopedia, Al-Taṣrīf (“The Method”), which contained a section dedicated to surgery. The work detailed procedures such as tonsillectomy and tracheostomy and described surgical instruments, including scalpels and forceps. Abū al-Qāsim also pioneered the use of catgut for internal stitching and cauterization for the treatment of hemorrhage (bleeding)."
https://www.britannica.com/science/History-of-Surgery-A-Timeline

Again, if you think the Encyclopedia Britannica is not a reliable and trustworthy source you are a moron.

So there's just a few which vindicate The Independent.

The Encyclopedia Britannica uses glowing terms like, "significant contributions to the principles of optics"; "one of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind" and "central to much of the machinery in the modern world"


I could go on.

Now what are you going to say?
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Reply #207 - May 30th, 2026 at 11:38am
 
Problems In Middle East Blamed On The 0.3% Of It That Isn’t An Islamic Dictatorship



AMMAN — As experts and diplomats continue to search for the solution to the generations-long conflict in the region, one surprising study has concluded that problems in the Middle East should definitely be blamed on the 0.3% of it that isn't an Islamic dictatorship.

Though opinions on the conflict have been divided over the decades, a consensus was reached that all of the problems flow from the minute portion of the region that isn't ruled by bloodthirsty, murderous terrorists who want to conquer the entire world.

"It's definitely all Israel's fault," said analyst Ibrahim Hamzi of the Institute for Blaming Jews in Jordan. "We have looked closely at all of the evidence accumulated over the last century and have come to the conclusion that none of the issues that arise in the Middle East can be blamed on the multiple Islamic dictatorships that have caused oppression, rape, murder, and terrorism around the world. Yes, the West lives in fear of Islamic extremists carrying out deadly attacks on heavily populated areas, but that's not the problem. No, it's Israel. Totally Israel."

The scientific study was controversial in some circles but received support from experts in other parts of the world as well. "I concur with the findings," said Professor Mohammed al Muhamad in London. "Even here in the unbiased United Kingdom, we can confidently state that the nation of Israel is solely to blame for the problems in the Middle East. Not the other dozen countries ruled by crazy Muslims."

At publishing time, an impartial coalition of Middle Eastern countries that are Islamic dictatorships presented a solution to solve tensions in the region by wiping Israel off the map.
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Reply #208 - May 31st, 2026 at 7:54pm
 
Frank, how about you retract your claim of 'bollocks'?
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Reply #209 - Jun 1st, 2026 at 8:05pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 24th, 2026 at 4:23pm:
“These [genocide] claims have no factual basis. However, the scale of this propaganda has created an environment that contributed to social radicalisation and the escalation of militant antisemitism across Australia. The normalisation of unproven genocide allegations has created an environment in which Jews who support Israel are routinely demonised and marginalised.”


All that disregards what Israel's leaders themselves have said:


"Israel has descended to a whole new level of criminality that clearly meets the definition of genocide under the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide: “acts intended to bring about the destruction of a substantial part of the Palestinian national, racial and ethnic group.”

"... the statements of senior Israeli officials demonstrating genocidal intent ... (proves) that Israel is deliberately fighting a war against the entire Palestinian population of Gaza...

"Prime Minister Netanyahu: invoking the Biblical story of the total destruction of the Amalek by the Israelites, which Biblical passage reads in relevant part: “Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.”

President Herzog: “It’s an entire nation out there that is responsible. It’s not true this rhetoric about civilians not aware not involved. It’s absolutely not true.”

Minister of Defense Gallant:  Israel is “imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

“Gaza won’t return to what it was before. We will eliminate everything. If it doesn’t take one day, it will take a week. It will take weeks or even months, we will reach all places.”

Minister for National Security Ben-Gvir: “[t]o be clear, when we say that Hamas should be destroyed, it also means those who celebrate, those who support, and those who hand out candy — they’re all terrorists, and they should also be destroyed.”

Minister of Energy and Infrastructure Katz: “All the civilian population in Gaza is ordered to leave immediately. We will win. They will not receive a drop of water or a single battery until they leave the world.”

Minister of Finance Smotrich: “We need to deal a blow that hasn’t been seen in 50 years and take down Gaza.”

Minister of Agriculture Dichter: “We are now actually rolling out the Gaza Nakba.”

Knesset Deputy Speaker and Foreign Affairs and Security Committee Member Vaturi: “Now we all have one common goal — erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth.”

"Israeli military officials have echoed their political leaders’ calls to genocide: Israeli Reservist Major General and adviser to the Defense Minister Eiland: “This is what Israel has begun to do — we cut the supply of energy, water and diesel to the Strip . . . But it’s not enough. In order to make the siege effective, we have to prevent others from giving assistance to Gaza . . . The people should be told that they have two choices; to stay and to starve, or to leave. If Egypt and other countries prefer that these people will perish in Gaza, this is their choice.”

"Ninety-five-year-old Ezra Yachin, a veteran of the Deir Yassin massacre during the 1948 Nakba, called up for reserve duty as a motivational speaker to “boost morale” among Israeli troops ahead of the ground invasion, said to social media while being driven around in an Israeli army vehicle, in IDF fatigues:  “Be triumphant and finish them off and don’t leave anyone behind. Erase the memory of them. Erase them, their families, mothers and children. These animals can no longer live . . . Every Jew with a weapon should go out and kill them. If you have an Arab neighbour, don’t wait, go to his home and shoot him . . . We want to invade, not like before, we want to enter and destroy what’s in front of us, and destroy houses, then destroy the one after it. With all of our forces, complete destruction, enter and destroy. As you can see, we will witness things we’ve never dreamed of. Let them drop bombs on them and erase them.”

..."the only possible conclusion:

"The above statements by Israeli decision-makers and military officials indicate in and of themselves a clear intent to destroy Palestinians in Gaza as a group “as such.” They also constitute clear direct and public incitement to genocide, which has gone unchecked and unpunished. The clear inference from the acts of the Israeli army on the ground — including from the vast number of civilians killed and injured, and the scale of displacement, destruction and devastation wrought in Gaza — is that those genocidal statements and directives are being implemented against the Palestinian people."

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/12/south-africa-appeals-to-the-international-court-o...
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