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Is Israeli society addicted to war? (Read 5486 times)
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Reply #180 - May 10th, 2026 at 10:28am
 
tallowood wrote on May 7th, 2026 at 12:00pm:
This is good thread for beautiful Israeli music   Cheesy



The song "Guardian of the Walls" was written by Dan Almagor, composed by Benny Negri and performed by the Central Command Band in 1977 as part of the "Songs of Jerusalem" program.



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Reply #181 - May 12th, 2026 at 9:22pm
 
waggawoody wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 7:11pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2026 at 9:04am:
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The Muslim incentive to attack Israel and Jews is because Jews (read Zionists) are considered invaders...


It's because they are considered Jews, and Muslims believe the land is "owned" by Islam and must therefor be ruled by Islam. Most of them are either locals or were forced out of neighbouring Muslim countries. It is not the "invasion" they have a problem with, but their lack of submission to Islam. You are projecting your own views onto this, but you only need to listen to what Muslims say.

We had Muslim converts right here on this forum, with absolutely no historical attachment to the region, who insisted the war against Israel must continue, regardless of the cost, because Allah has ordained inevitable victory over non-Muslims. Not just in Israel, but in Spain which is also "owned" by Islam. This has nothing to do with who invaded what. The Spanish are no more invaders in Spain than the Jews are in Israel. It is the historical Muslim conquest that justifies conquest. It is all about religion. If Israel had come into existence without a single Jew immigrating to the area, the Muslims would still be frothing at the mouth with fury over the insult to their religion.

The Muslims are addicted to war, because they believe that war and victory are ordained for them by Allah. The Israelis have established a liberal democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth. Despite being attacked multiple times and winning every time, they handed back the massive territory they won. Because they are not addicted to war.

I have never heard a Muslim complain about the Jews invading, but if that is what you actually heard, you misunderstood and thought the invasion bit was the problem. It isn't. It is the Jewish part. Muslims have been fighting each other ever since Muhammad died. Pretty much every nation and every border in the Muslim world was created by the west. Muslims don't care, because Muslims are in charge. When one of these nations invades the other, Muslims in the rest of the world don't care, unless one is Shite and one is Sunni. Muslims have actually been assisting the invasion of Muslim lands by non-Muslims for the entire history of Islam, in the form of the Islamic slave trade. Again, they don't care, because it is ordained by Islam, governed by Islam and dominated by Islam, and they get to pretty much forcibly convert the slaves to Islam.

At least, they don't care as much as they do about Israel. But when ISIS promised to re-establish the Caliphate and slaughtered their way across the middle east, Muslims from around the world leant their support, the same way they do in the effort to slaughter Jews. Not because they were fighting off an invasion, but because they were fighting for Islamic rule. It is not enough to have Muslims in charge, it has to be a proper Islamic state.

You do not understand this, so you project your own western view in order to come up with an explanation that you do understand. Stop expecting their actions to make sense to you. They only have to make sense to Islam, because Islam is what motivates them.


In which other liberal democracy do we find racial segregation and apartheid ?


FD, tell us why you believe that a regime based on ethno-supremacism, and which practices racial segregation and apartheid, is a liberal democracy.
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Reply #182 - May 13th, 2026 at 6:33pm
 
I would be somewhat more sympathetic to Muslims if they could do something like this, stuff that assimilated, acculturated Jews have been doing so well for centuries for the benefit of all mankind.

Islam is the death of music, literature, art, resarch, enquiry, human dignity, female dignity, conviviality.

Islam already rules over far more people than its idiotic doctrins would merit. It is a deadly and deadening cancer on human creativity and dignity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEYajsa8NeM&list=RDpEYajsa8NeM&start_radio=1&t=2...
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Reply #183 - May 13th, 2026 at 6:53pm
 
Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 6:33pm:
Islam is the death of music, literature, art, resarch, enquiry, human dignity, female dignity, conviviality.


"what have the Muslims ever done for us?"

Well, there's mathematics and the modern numerals...

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Reply #184 - May 13th, 2026 at 8:15pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 6:53pm:
Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 6:33pm:
Islam is the death of music, literature, art, resarch, enquiry, human dignity, female dignity, conviviality.


"what have the Muslims ever done for us?"

Well, there's mathematics and the modern numerals...


Stolen from the Indians.
Islam is inhuman, antithetical to anything dignified, artistic, humane.

It murders the human spirit at every turn. 

Submission. *uck that. YOU submit.


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Reply #185 - May 15th, 2026 at 8:19pm
 
Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 6:33pm:
Jews have been doing so well for centuries for the benefit of all mankind.


Like what?

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Islam is the death of music, literature, art, resarch, enquiry, human dignity, female dignity, conviviality.


Why are you so forgetful?

I showed you this some time ago:

"From coffee to cheques and the three-course meal, the Muslim world has given us many innovations that we take for granted in daily life... Paul Vallely nominates 20 of the most influential - and identifies the men of genius behind them"


How Islamic inventors changed the world


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Reply #186 - May 15th, 2026 at 9:43pm
 
waggawoody wrote on May 15th, 2026 at 8:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 6:33pm:
Jews have been doing so well for centuries for the benefit of all mankind.


Like what?

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Islam is the death of music, literature, art, resarch, enquiry, human dignity, female dignity, conviviality.


Why are you so forgetful?

I showed you this some time ago:

"From coffee to cheques and the three-course meal, the Muslim world has given us many innovations that we take for granted in daily life... Paul Vallely nominates 20 of the most influential - and identifies the men of genius behind them"


How Islamic inventors changed the world



Bollocks.

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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #187 - Yesterday at 6:33pm
 
Frank wrote on May 15th, 2026 at 9:43pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 15th, 2026 at 8:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 6:33pm:
Jews have been doing so well for centuries for the benefit of all mankind.


Like what?

Quote:
Islam is the death of music, literature, art, resarch, enquiry, human dignity, female dignity, conviviality.


Why are you so forgetful?

I showed you this some time ago:

"From coffee to cheques and the three-course meal, the Muslim world has given us many innovations that we take for granted in daily life... Paul Vallely nominates 20 of the most influential - and identifies the men of genius behind them"


How Islamic inventors changed the world



Bollocks.

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You simply cannot face the facts.
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