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Reply #165 - May 3rd, 2026 at 10:10pm
 
waggawoody wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 7:06pm:
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:41am:
There have been vastly greater population movements across the world in the 20th centure alone, both in terns of territory and people.



The fact that other states were established through conflict/displacement and/or the wholesale violation of other peoples' rights does not legitimize or justify the means by which Israel was established.

If does. It absolutely does.

That is why it happened as it did. If was accepted everywhere else except by Islam because it is contrary to Islamic doctrine.
That is the long and the short of it. Jews taking Muslim "land" is anathema.  Muslim lands were carved up in all sorts of ways. They only carry on about the Jews coming home.

The Muslims have conquered the Roman Empire. If they were really serious about everyone having their old territories back they should clear the *uck out of North Africa, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakiland et al - all conquered by bloody Muslim invaders.

Now they kvetch when the Jews take some tiny part of that vast bloody conquest back, WITH UN approval.

Islam - *ucking height of hyoocrisy and idiocy.








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Reply #166 - May 4th, 2026 at 8:42am
 
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:10pm:
Now they kvetch when the Jews take some tiny part of that vast bloody conquest back, WITH UN approval.


They got UN approval for partition within defined borders... those borders were breached before UN recognition of Israeli statehood, but recognition went ahead anyway on Israel's promise to withdraw back to them.

Before UN partition approval, the Revisionist Zionists took on the British via the kidnapping, torture and murder of British soldiers and civilians. They murdered Lord Moyne, the British Minister Resident in the Middle East. They attempted to murder Clement Attlee, the British Prime Minister.

By 1948, the British thought better of full retaliation. The US was against it and the risk of creating headlines, e.g., 'Allies Gun Down Jewish Holocaust Survivors'  after they'd survived one of Europe's most depraved acts of European Jew hate.

Europe, for its part, was generally comfortable with the mass exodus of Jews from Europe, as Jew hate there was too ingrained into the European psyche to be eliminated overnight... and it worsened the further east they lived.

Although the still-ruling Stalin despised Jews, he was more inclined to see them exiled to his gulags in the east than just let them leave... He'd planned a region as far east of the Soviet Union as he could get and had retitled the region simply as 'Jewish' as a dumping ground for the Soviet Union's surviving Jews.

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Reply #167 - May 4th, 2026 at 9:02am
 
MattE wrote on Apr 12th, 2026 at 11:29pm:
Is Israel a society effectively on a permanent war footing?




They do have endless American taxpayer-funding and weapons so the question is moot.


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Reply #168 - May 4th, 2026 at 9:23am
 
Israel marked its 78th Independence Day just hours after pausing to remember its fallen.

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Reply #169 - May 4th, 2026 at 11:10am
 
tallowood wrote on May 4th, 2026 at 9:23am:
Israel marked its 78th Independence Day just hours after pausing to remember its fallen.



Killing anything up to 100,000 Innocent people has no relationship to self defence. There is no justification or excuse for the actions of the IDF or NetNYahoo. I doubt that this is supported by the bulk of their people.
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Reply #170 - May 4th, 2026 at 11:57am
 
Marla wrote on May 4th, 2026 at 9:02am:
MattE wrote on Apr 12th, 2026 at 11:29pm:
Is Israel a society effectively on a permanent war footing?




They do have endless American taxpayer-funding and weapons so the question is moot.


Why I have no healthcare in the richest god damn nation in the world.

The US has never donated, nor sold at cost, one bullet or bomb to any foreign state.
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Reply #171 - May 4th, 2026 at 11:59am
 
tallowood wrote on May 4th, 2026 at 9:23am:
Israel marked its 78th Independence Day just hours after pausing to remember its fallen.




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Reply #172 - May 6th, 2026 at 6:25pm
 
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:10pm:
waggawoody wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 7:06pm:
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:41am:
There have been vastly greater population movements across the world in the 20th centure alone, both in terns of territory and people.



The fact that other states were established through conflict/displacement and/or the wholesale violation of other peoples' rights does not legitimize or justify the means by which Israel was established.

If does. It absolutely does.



Not at all.

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it is contrary to Islamic doctrine.


Then why, for centuries and centuries, were Jews protected under Islam, while in Europe Christians were busy expelling them from one country after another?

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Now they kvetch when the Jews take some tiny part of that vast bloody conquest back   
            

How many times you gotta be told? The 'tiny part' is just the beginning. They want all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates, because they believe that's what their god promised them (Genesis 15:18), and as what was admitted by US Ambassador Huckabee a few months ago.

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WITH UN approval.


Yet the UN admitted it was violating its own charter by 'giving' a minority group the majority of the land.


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Reply #173 - May 6th, 2026 at 6:47pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 4th, 2026 at 8:42am:
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:10pm:
Now they kvetch when the Jews take some tiny part of that vast bloody conquest back, WITH UN approval.


They got UN approval for partition within defined borders... those borders were breached before UN recognition of Israeli statehood, but recognition went ahead anyway on Israel's promise to withdraw back to them.

Before UN partition approval, the Revisionist Zionists took on the British via the kidnapping, torture and murder of British soldiers and civilians. They murdered Lord Moyne, the British Minister Resident in the Middle East. They attempted to murder Clement Attlee, the British Prime Minister.

By 1948, the British thought better of full retaliation. The US was against it and the risk of creating headlines, e.g., 'Allies Gun Down Jewish Holocaust Survivors'  after they'd survived one of Europe's most depraved acts of European Jew hate.

Europe, for its part, was generally comfortable with the mass exodus of Jews from Europe, as Jew hate there was too ingrained into the European psyche to be eliminated overnight... and it worsened the further east they lived.

Although the still-ruling Stalin despised Jews, he was more inclined to see them exiled to his gulags in the east than just let them leave... He'd planned a region as far east of the Soviet Union as he could get and had retitled the region simply as 'Jewish' as a dumping ground for the Soviet Union's surviving Jews.



And they murdered UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte.

That was after he saved thousands of Jews from perishing at the hands of the Nazis.

Some gratitude, eh?
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Reply #174 - May 6th, 2026 at 6:58pm
 
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Yet the UN admitted it was violating its own charter by 'giving' a minority group the majority of the land.


"UNGA resolution 181 simply did not partition Palestine. It was in fact, a partition plan, which was to be seen as a recommendation, and that the issue should be transferred to the Security Council. But don’t take our word for it, we encourage you to read the actual resolution and see if you arrive at the same conclusions. The resolution does not in any way obligate the people of Palestine to accept it, especially considering the non-binding nature of UNGA resolutions.

"For its part, the Security Council attempted to find a resolution based on the UNGA recommendation, but could not arrive at a consensus. Many arrived at the conclusion that the plan could not be enforced. Israel was unilaterally declared by Zionist leadership by force while the Security Council was still trying to arrive at a conclusion. The plan was never implemented."

https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/the-united-nations-created-israel/
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Reply #175 - May 6th, 2026 at 7:10pm
 
waggawoody wrote on May 6th, 2026 at 6:47pm:
And they murdered UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte.

That was after he saved thousands of Jews from perishing at the hands of the Nazis.

Some gratitude, eh?

It was a testament to the steeled resolve of the militant ZIonists who were prepared to take on the British Imperial establishment and the UN if they stood in the way of their plans for Israeli statehood.

They'd sent the British a cold-blooded message for their concessions towards displaced Arabs.

Bernadotte's objectives to make Jerusalem an international city and to allow displaced Palestinians to return to their homes marked him for death in the minds of the Zionists.

The murder was planned and executed by Zionist leaders, including later Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, to send the UN the same message they'd sent the British if it involved itself in the region.

At least two former militant Zionist murderers later became Israeli Prime Ministers: Menachim Begin and Yitzhak Shamir.

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Reply #176 - Yesterday at 6:26am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 4th, 2026 at 11:57am:
The US has never donated, nor sold at cost, one bullet or bomb to any foreign state.



Yeah, way past time for your kangaroo rooters to pay your share. After all, you get FREE healthcare of of my taxpayer dime.


You idiot
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Reply #177 - Yesterday at 9:44am
 
Marla wrote Yesterday at 6:26am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 4th, 2026 at 11:57am:
The US has never donated, nor sold at cost, one bullet or bomb to any foreign state.



Yeah, way past time for your kangaroo rooters to pay your share. After all, you get FREE healthcare of of my taxpayer dime.


You idiot

The US is a grand theft nation...

Why would a nation-state culture like that want to pay to keep you alive?
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This is good thread for beautiful Israeli music   Cheesy



The song "Guardian of the Walls" was written by Dan Almagor, composed by Benny Negri and performed by the Central Command Band in 1977 as part of the "Songs of Jerusalem" program.
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