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Is Israeli society addicted to war? (Read 4690 times)
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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to war?
Reply #135 - May 3rd, 2026 at 9:49am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 9:10pm:
What I’m saying is that they established the state by displacing the inhabitants whose ancestors had lived there for centuries, not by just means, but by the means Jabotinsky said was the only way… by force… He knew this was about right vs right

When two great rights collide, it is as if an irresistible force meets an immovable object.
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Reply #136 - May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am
 
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.
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Reply #137 - May 3rd, 2026 at 10:33am
 
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.

Spoken like a true Maoist!
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Reply #138 - May 3rd, 2026 at 10:58am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 29th, 2026 at 3:18am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 28th, 2026 at 6:01pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2026 at 5:49pm:
I'll help you out Meister. This is what being open and honest about what you think the root cause is looks like:

The root cause is Islam.


Wrong: the root cause is the confiscation of land by an 'infidel' invader,


If the root cause has nothing to do with Islam, why do you use the word 'infidel' when telling us what the real root cause is?

Or is infidel just your polite word for Jew? You are allowed to call them Jews. They don't consider it offensive.


Obviously the scripture-based element of the conflict - namely, Jews are considered 'infidels' in Islam -  is additional  to the territorial-based element of the conflict, namely, the disputed confiscation of territory (in this case, enabled by vote in an international organisation for the first time in history). 
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Reply #139 - May 3rd, 2026 at 11:00am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:33am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.

Spoken like a true Maoist!


Mosaist because Moses said "עַיִן תַּחַת עַיִן שֵׁן תַּחַת שֵׁן ".

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Re: Israeli addicted to self-defense
Reply #140 - May 3rd, 2026 at 11:10am
 
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:33am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.

Spoken like a true Maoist!


Mosaist because Moses said "עַיִן תַּחַת עַיִן שֵׁן תַּחַת שֵׁן ".


Maoist as in Mao's four olds... That f~cked mainland Chinese cultures.
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Re: Israeli addicted to self-defense
Reply #141 - May 3rd, 2026 at 11:21am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:10am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:33am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.

Spoken like a true Maoist!


Mosaist because Moses said "עַיִן תַּחַת עַיִן שֵׁן תַּחַת שֵׁן ".


Maoist as in Mao's four olds... That f~cked mainland Chinese cultures.


Mao’s body was embalmed for preservation so you can go and perform oral on his penis  Grin
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Re: Israeli addicted to self-defense
Reply #142 - May 3rd, 2026 at 11:22am
 
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:21am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:10am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:33am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.

Spoken like a true Maoist!


Mosaist because Moses said "עַיִן תַּחַת עַיִן שֵׁן תַּחַת שֵׁן ".


Maoist as in Mao's four olds... That f~cked mainland Chinese cultures.


Mao’s body was embalmed for preservation so you can go and perform oral on his penis  Grin

Did it bring you good luck?
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Re: Israeli addicted to self-defense
Reply #143 - May 3rd, 2026 at 11:39am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:22am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:21am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:10am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:33am:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.

Spoken like a true Maoist!


Mosaist because Moses said "עַיִן תַּחַת עַיִן שֵׁן תַּחַת שֵׁן ".


Maoist as in Mao's four olds... That f~cked mainland Chinese cultures.


Mao’s body was embalmed for preservation so you can go and perform oral on his penis  Grin

Did it bring you good luck?


עַיִן תַּחַת עַיִן שֵׁן תַּחַת שֵׁן did  Cool
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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to self-defence?
Reply #144 - May 3rd, 2026 at 11:41am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 9:49am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 9:10pm:
What I’m saying is that they established the state by displacing the inhabitants whose ancestors had lived there for centuries, not by just means, but by the means Jabotinsky said was the only way… by force… He knew this was about right vs right

When two great rights collide, it is as if an irresistible force meets an immovable object.



There have been vastly greater population movements across the world in the 20th centure alone, both in terns of territory and people.
Yet only one people, the Palestinians, remain a problem, remain a sole UN concern with their own dedicated agencies etc. Why?
Why especially since it has been the Palestinians and Muslim Arabs around them, who have responded with war to the initial UN settlement and then with more wars in response to every effort of peaceful settlement.


I point out the bleedding obvious: had the Paĺlos formed their own state when the Jews did, the WB and Gaza would now be parts of a sovereign country, and not mere occupied teritories (first by Arabs and now by Jews).

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Re: Is Israeli society addicted to self-defence?
Reply #145 - May 3rd, 2026 at 11:56am
 
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:41am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 9:49am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 9:10pm:
What I’m saying is that they established the state by displacing the inhabitants whose ancestors had lived there for centuries, not by just means, but by the means Jabotinsky said was the only way… by force… He knew this was about right vs right

When two great rights collide, it is as if an irresistible force meets an immovable object.



There have been vastly greater population movements across the world in the 20th centure alone, both in terns of territory and people.
Yet only one people, the Palestinians, remain a problem, remain a sole UN concern with their own dedicated agencies etc. Why?
Why especially since it has been the Palestinians and Muslim Arabs around them, who have responded with war to the initial UN settlement and then with more wars in response to every effort of peaceful settlement.


I point out the bleedding obvious: had the Paĺlos formed their own state when the Jews did, the WB and Gaza would now be parts of a sovereign country, and not mere occupied teritories (first by Arabs and now by Jews).


And the Kurds, most of the tribes and ethnic groups of Africa, the Ukrainians, the Indians with the Chinese, the Basques, the Catalans, the Armenians vs the Azerbaijanis...

As Jabotinski warned, no people willingly cede territory to invaders or colonisers, as neither would Australians.


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Reply #146 - May 3rd, 2026 at 12:01pm
 
Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 11:41am:
I point out the bleedding obvious: had the Paĺlos formed their own state when the Jews did, the WB and Gaza would now be parts of a sovereign country, and not mere occupied teritories (first by Arabs and now by Jews).


Would we Australians willingly cede land and redraw Australia's territory if, say, Indonesia seized parts of northern Australia, claiming an ancient link to the land?
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Reply #147 - May 3rd, 2026 at 12:36pm
 
The Revisionist Zionists pre-1948 were not kindly European-Jewish jewellers and bagel bakers; their leaders were all battle-hardened Eastern Europeans and Russians who weren't f~cking around with niceties, diplomacy and conciliation towards the Arab inhabitants. They had one military aim: to seize the land and create a Jewish state in line with ancient Jewish borders.

Those Jews who fought under the Revisionist command were not meek European Jews; they were either ex-soldiers or survivors of European depravity that had cost them everything, including their entire families.


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Reply #148 - May 3rd, 2026 at 2:13pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.


All other staff has nothing to do with this and should be in separate topics.
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Reply #149 - May 3rd, 2026 at 2:36pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 2:13pm:
tallowood wrote on May 3rd, 2026 at 10:13am:
tallowood wrote on May 1st, 2026 at 10:21am:
Israeli self-defense is not addiction to war.


And that is all you need to know about the topic without going off-top.


All other staff has nothing to do with this and should be in separate topics.

Ah, Maoist thought: F~cking the Chinese up the arse since 1949.
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