freediver wrote on Apr 28^th, 2026 at 10:25am:



Forced out by whom?

Jews in the middle east and North Africa liked living there so much Zionists had to force them out:


For many centuries Morocco (Al-Maghrib) had large prosperous Jewish communities, known as Mizrahi Jews, who lived peacefully with their Moslem Arab neighbors. This peaceful coexistence encouraged Spanish Jews (Sephardim) to escape to Morocco during the Spanish Reconquista period when Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand recaptured Spain in the 13 th century, and ordered the Jews to either convert to Christianity or leave the country. After 781 years of flourishing existence under the Islamic Caliphate rule, many Spanish Jews escaped Christian persecution to the more welcoming Islamic Morocco.

The Jewish virtual library confesses that Mizrahi and Sephardim Jews of Morocco enjoyed greater equality with Muslims. Many of them gained important positions in the government administration as officials and in courts of law as judges. The Jews had their own quarters in the main cities, where they had their own schools, their own synagogues, and even their own courts and judges. They comprised a large section of the middle class, who played large roles in the economy, trade, industry and educational system of the kingdom.

All this was changed with the invention of the Israeli state, especially after Zionist leaders had sent their agents to encourage and to bribe Moroccan Jews, among many other Arab Jews, to immigrate to occupied Palestine...

Many other Moroccan Jewish historians had written about the Mossad's terrorist crimes against Moroccan Jews to cause such mass immigration. Among them Michel Knafo, who published his book “Le Mossad et les Secrets du Reseau Juif au Maroc” describing Mossad's plot to smuggle Moroccan Jews to Israel. He documented eye-witness life stories of the smuggling operation.

Michael M. Laskier documents in his book “North African Jewry in the Twentieth Century: The Jews of Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria” the life of North African Arab Jews, their peaceful coexistence with the Muslims, their social status, and the role of the Zionist organizations, including the Mossad's secret operations of militarizing the young Jews, the Mossad's terrorist attacks against local Jews, and the illegal immigration from the beginning of the twentieth century.

Agnes Bensimon is a French writer originally from Moroccan Jewish descent. She exposed in her book “ Hassan II et Les Juifs; Historie d'une emigration secrete” the secret bribery dealings between Mossad agents and King Hassan II regarding the Moroccan Jewish immigration.

One may ask, here, the logical question of why would Zionists terrorize Arab Jews when Zionists' main objective is to unite Jews in  Israel. David Hirst, a former Middle East correspondent for the Guardian, explains in his book “The Gun and The Olive Branch” (1977, Future Publication) that Zionism had less appeal to Oriental Jews (Arab Jews). The reason for their indifference was that, historically, they, unlike persecuted European Jews, did not suffer persecution and discrimination in the Arab countries. Although some prejudice existed the Arab Jews lived, on the whole, comfortable life and had deep roots in the land. They enjoyed equal privileges and many of them gained high governmental positions. They enjoyed a sense of security and belonging they would not abandon for ambiguous militaristic life in Israel surrounded by many hostile Arab countries.

Zionist crimes against Arab Jews, in particular, is an open secret very well known to Arabs as well as to Arab Jews. Zionist terror against Moroccan Jews is just one example of other terrorist attacks against well-established and peacefully coexisting Arab Jewish communities in all Arab countries; including Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq, in order to persuade them to immigrate to Israel. The case of transferring over 100 thousand Iraqi Jews from Iraq is the most well-documented open secret plotted together by the newly formed Israeli government under Ben-Gurion and Nuri as-Said; the British puppet ruler of Iraq in late 1950s. Mossad agents testified to having planted bombs within the Jewish community in order to spread hatred and fear to provoke Jewish flight from Iraq.

Naeim Giladi , an Iraqi Jew, was an Israeli agent, who is very well familiar with the Israeli terrorist attacks against Iraqi Jewish communities. He stated “… that Jews  from Islamic lands did not immigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews.” In his book “Ben Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews” he documented that Operation Ezra & Nehemiah, also known as Operation Ali Baba, was the airlift of more than 120 thousand Iraqi Jews from Iraq to Israel as a result of Israeli agents' terrorist attacks against Iraqi Jews.

https://www.countercurrents.org/akleh111113.htm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 1^st, 2026 at 5:02pm:


I didn't google it because, believe it or not, google doesn't base it's answers around your Jew hating conspiracy theories. It does not even start it's answers with "Meister Eckart is so confused because...". Only you can reveal that.

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This is a good example of why I cannot google why you are so confused. I did not ask you whether Israel had the "right" to set its own immigration policy after 1948. I asked you why you think that only pre 1948 immigration is the root cause of the ongoing violence. Are you suggesting that all the Muslim suicide bombers are blowing themselves up in support of British migration rules from early last century? British governance was so wonderful that Muslims have been compelled to slaughter Jews ever since in an effort to recreate it?

Or just polishing the turd?

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Is this a reasonable explanation for your tapdancing Meister? Just like with the Chinese car thread, you have a "preferred" explanation, one that does not involve Islam or communism or explanations that are consistent with global trends, but instead lays the blame at the Jews and the Chinese, on an ad hoc basis, using whatever random factoids you can dig up? Rather than the explanation being guided by the truth, you bend the truth to fit an explanation that by your own admission, you simply "prefer", and just happens to be racist in both cases?

Meister, have you ever met a Muslim who said they have no problem with the establishment of Israel, or Israel providing a home for all the Jews that were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands in the years following 1948, or all the other Jewish immigration to Israel after 1948, but they want to kill Jews only because of all the holocaust survivors that fled to Israel prior to 1948, and only on the basis that the British overlords didn't approve?

Do you think the Muslim world is nothing more than an extension of the legal pedantry going on in your head, and all the hatred is nothing more than some kind of box-ticking failure?

Or are you just desperately trying to paint Jew killing in the best possible light by only acknowledging causes that you approve of?

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2026 at 7:32pm:

As a European coward, you take the easy option of assuming that establishing a majority Jewish state was just a matter of peacefully turning up and enduring unjustified attacks by the locals.

Try reading Jabotinsky’s essays, particularly ‘the Iron Wall’… he states it in black and white… a Jew with the balls to tell it like it was… ‘if we don’t take the land by force, it will never be just handed to us’… that ‘Arabs are not fools and are not deceived by lies of living peacefully within enclaves’… that ‘Arabs are an honourable people who will fight - as they will, should and must’.

How many of your ancestors do you think could have murdered or taken part in the murders of Jews for being Jews? That’s a question Israelis would like Europeans to consider.

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 1^st, 2026 at 7:50pm:



The above post was brought to you by the word tendentious.

Where did the Jews EVER established a state, Meister?
Er.... in Israel and Jewdea.

Can they have it back?

I say yes.

A couple of points...

The existence of the state of Israel is irreversible. Even the vast majority of Arab and other Middle Eastern states acknowledge this, despite the rhetoric, and neither would they want it.

Jabotinsky, the founder of Revisionist Zionism, and his contemporaries were writing decades before the Holocaust, which is an indication of the severity of European persecutory and murderous tendencies towards Jews, just for being Jews, long before the Nazis. Even the Catholic and Protestant churches were in on it.

tallowood wrote on May 1^st, 2026 at 3:21pm:


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