https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-iran-talks-pause-now-disagreements...

Summary

Both Iran and US say talks have ended
Both sides had 'mood swings' during talks, Pakistani source says
Iran seeks Lebanon ceasefire, reparations, control of Hormuz
US wants Iran to commit to not developing nuclear weapons


ISLAMABAD, April 12 (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President JD Vance ​said on Sunday that his negotiating team was leaving Pakistan after not reaching a deal with Iran following 21 hours of negotiations, jeopardizing a fragile two-week ceasefire.
"The bad ‌news is that we have not reached an agreement, and I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's bad news for the United States of America," Vance told reporters after the talks ended. "So we go back to the United States having not come to an agreement. We've made very clear what our red lines are."


Vance cited shortcomings in the talks and said Iran had chosen not to accept American terms, including ​to not build nuclear weapons. A short time later, Vance waved goodbye from the top of the stairs as he boarded Air Force Two in Islamabad.
"We need to ​see an affirmative commitment that they will not seek a nuclear weapon, and they will not seek the tools that would enable them to ⁠quickly achieve a nuclear weapon. That is the core goal of the president of the United States, and that's what we've tried to achieve through these negotiations."


Iran's semi-official Tasnim news agency ​said that "excessive" U.S. demands had hindered reaching an agreement and that negotiations had ended. Before Vance spoke, Iran's government in a post on X had said negotiations would continue and technical experts ​from both sides would exchange documents.
The talks in Islamabad were the first direct U.S.-Iranian meeting in more than a decade and the highest-level discussions since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.


In his brief press conference, Vance did not mention reopening the Strait of Hormuz, a choke point for about 20% of global energy supplies that Iran has blocked since the war began. The conflict has sent global oil prices soaring and killed thousands of people.


Vance's ​delegation included special envoy Steve Witkoff and President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner. Vance said he talked with Trump a half a dozen to a dozen times during the talks.
Iran's team included ​Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi.
The Iranian delegation arrived on Friday dressed in black in mourning for late Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and others killed in the war. They carried ‌shoes and ⁠bags of some students killed during the U.S. bombing of a school next to a military compound, the Iranian government said. The Pentagon has said the strike is under investigation but Reuters has reported that military investigators believe the U.S. was likely responsible for it.
"There were mood swings from the two sides and the temperature went up and down during the meeting," a Pakistani source said in reference to the first round of talks.

Wow, JD failed.

What a surprise   

"So we go back to the United States having not come to an agreement. We've made very clear what our red lines are."

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12^th, 2026 at 2:01pm:



you mean the Dem's are gunna appease the Iranians?

Did they only mine Iranian waters or Osmani waters? Apparently they have lost the location of where they laid them.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12^th, 2026 at 2:51pm:




Trump has shown arrogance.


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Is Trump a malignant narcissist?


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lee wrote on Apr 12^th, 2026 at 3:16pm:


Can't ever recall Iran threatening to wipe out Israel, can't ever recall Iran government chanting "death to America".

Iran would never station a group in a foreign country and arm them to attack Israel and American military assets.

But if they did I'm sure they would announce their plans on CNN in advance.

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 12^th, 2026 at 3:35pm:


Yes I did forget they are supplying weapons to Hamas to facilitate a war with the intention of wiping out Israel. And they supplied weapons to Houthies too.