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Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:09pm
 
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-he-has-agreed-suspend-bombi...

Trump says he agrees to suspend bombing of Iran for two weeks


By Kanishka Singh

April 8, 2026     8:37 AM GMT+10    Updated 2 hours ago


WASHINGTON, April 7 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he has agreed ​to suspend the bombing of Iran for two weeks while accepting a ‌14-day truce proposal from mediators in the Iran war.
Trump said he spoke to leaders in Pakistan, which has been a mediator between Washington and Tehran and which had sought ​a two-week ceasefire.



"Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and ​Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested ⁠that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to ​Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, ​IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks," Trump wrote on social ​media.
"This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE," Trump said.


Trump said ​the U.S. has received a 10-point proposal from Iran, which he called a "workable basis ‌on ⁠which to negotiate."
Trump said in his post that nearly all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the U.S. and Iran and the two-week period will allow a deal to be ​finalized.
Trump, who ​has offered shifting goals ⁠and timelines for the war, reiterated that he felt Washington's objectives had been achieved.


The Iran war began when ​the U.S. and Israel attacked Iran on February 28. Tehran ​responded ⁠with its own strikes on Israel and Gulf states with U.S. bases. The war has shaken global markets and raised oil prices.
U.S.-Israeli strikes in Iran and ⁠Israeli ​attacks in Lebanon have killed thousands and displaced millions. ​Trump warned earlier on Tuesday that "a whole civilization will die tonight" if Iran did not ​make a deal.
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Reply #1 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:10pm
 
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/07/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-us-israel


US and Iran agree to two-week ceasefire
Iran says its military will coordinate passage through Strait of Hormuz.


Updated 10:51 PM EDT, Tue April 7, 2026


Here's the latest
• New strikes after ceasefire announcement: Missile attacks were reported across the Gulf region and Israel shortly after President Donald Trump announced he’d agreed to a two-week ceasefire with Iran. An official says that the US military has paused strikes on Iran, but Israel is still carrying out strikes, an Israeli military spokesperson said.

• Strait of Hormuz: Iran’s military will coordinate passage of vessels through the critical Strait of Hormuz during the ceasefire, Iran’s foreign minister said. Trump said reopening the strait was a key condition of the ceasefire deal.

• What happens next? Pakistan’s prime minister has invited delegations from both Iran and the US to Islamabad for talks on Friday. Earlier Tuesday, Pakistan proposed the two-week ceasefire to allow for diplomacy.


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Iran and Oman to charge ships passing through Strait of Hormuz during ceasefire, state media says
Jessie Yeung
By Jessie Yeung
Iran and Oman plan to charge transit fees for vessels passing through the Strait of Hormuz during the two-week ceasefire, according to Iran’s semi-official Tasnim News Agency.

The funds will be earmarked for reconstruction, Tasnim reported.

CNN has asked Oman’s foreign ministry for comment.

The strait has been effectively closed since the war began, with maritime tracking data showing that only about 5% of the pre-war volume of shipping is getting through. Some tankers have been able to pass through; for instance, Pakistan and India have negotiated with Iran for guaranteed passage of some of their flagged vessels.

Iran has reportedly been charging up to $2 million per vessel for passage trough Hormuz. It’s unclear if any ship operators have paid the fee.
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Reply #2 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:20pm
 

Told ya, Bobby.

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Reply #3 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:23pm
 
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-says-irans-uranium-will-be-pe...

Trump says Iran’s uranium ‘will be perfectly taken care of’

as he claims ‘total and complete victory’



US President Donald Trump tells AFP that Iran’s uranium will be “perfectly taken care of” under a two-week ceasefire deal with Tehran.

“That will be perfectly taken care of or I wouldn’t have settled,” Trump says in a telephone interview when asked about what would happen to Iran’s enriched uranium.

He adds the United States won a “total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it.”
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/white-house-claims-two-week-ceasefi...

Live Update arrow right icon From the Liveblog of Wednesday, April 8, 2026

White House claims two-week ceasefire with Iran

as ‘a victory for the United States’


By Jacob Magid Follow

Today, 5:05 am


The White House asserts that the announcement of a two-week ceasefire between the US and Iran is a victory for Washington.

“This is a victory for the United States that President Trump and our incredible military made happen,” Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt says in a statement.

“From the very beginning of Operation Epic Fury, President Trump estimated this would be a 4-6 week operation,” she says. “Thanks to the unbelievable capabilities of our warriors, we have achieved and exceeded our core military objectives in 38 days.”


“The success of our military created maximum leverage, allowing President Trump and the team to engage in tough negotiations that have now created an opening for a diplomatic solution and long-term peace,” Leavitt adds.

“Additionally, President Trump got the Strait of Hormuz reopened,” she says.

The channel was open before the war started, though, and Iran now says safe passage must be coordinated with its forces.

“Never underestimate President Trump’s ability to successfully advance America’s interests and broker peace,” Leavitt says.
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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116365796713313030


Trump - Truth Social:


Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP


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Reply #6 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:23pm:
He adds the United States won a “total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it.”


Lol   Grin

Mango Mussolini got done like a dinner.

He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

This will go down in history as one of America's biggest foreign policy/military failures.


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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:23pm:
He adds the United States won a “total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it.”


Lol   Grin

Mango Mussolini got done like a dinner.

He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

This will go down in history as one of America's biggest foreign policy/military failures.




The ships will start passing now.
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:23pm:
He adds the United States won a “total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it.”


Lol   Grin

Mango Mussolini got done like a dinner.

He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

This will go down in history as one of America's biggest foreign policy/military failures.




The ships will start passing now.


They were passing perfectly fine before he launched the illegal attack, Bobby.

Nothing has been gained.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #9 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:23pm:
He adds the United States won a “total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it.”


Lol   Grin

Mango Mussolini got done like a dinner.

He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

This will go down in history as one of America's biggest foreign policy/military failures.




The ships will start passing now.


They were passing perfectly fine before he launched the illegal attack, Bobby.

Nothing has been gained.




He adds the United States won a

“total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it"
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:23pm:
He adds the United States won a “total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it.”


Lol   Grin

Mango Mussolini got done like a dinner.

He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

This will go down in history as one of America's biggest foreign policy/military failures.




The ships will start passing now.


They were passing perfectly fine before he launched the illegal attack, Bobby.

Nothing has been gained.




He adds the United States won a

“total and complete victory. 100 percent. No question about it"


We're back to where we were before his illegal war (almost).

He took two steps back and one step forward.

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Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 2:12pm
 
did you see the plan?

america has killed 1000's of innocent people, destroyed civilian infrastructure and the rest of the world pay for it.

this is what corrupt amoral child raping america does
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He won:


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Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/07/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-us-israel


US and Iran agree to two-week ceasefire
Iran says its military will coordinate passage through Strait of Hormuz.


Updated 10:51 PM EDT, Tue April 7, 2026


Here's the latest
• New strikes after ceasefire announcement: Missile attacks were reported across the Gulf region and Israel shortly after President Donald Trump announced he’d agreed to a two-week ceasefire with Iran. An official says that the US military has paused strikes on Iran, but Israel is still carrying out strikes, an Israeli military spokesperson said.

• Strait of Hormuz: Iran’s military will coordinate passage of vessels through the critical Strait of Hormuz during the ceasefire, Iran’s foreign minister said. Trump said reopening the strait was a key condition of the ceasefire deal.

• What happens next? Pakistan’s prime minister has invited delegations from both Iran and the US to Islamabad for talks on Friday. Earlier Tuesday, Pakistan proposed the two-week ceasefire to allow for diplomacy.


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Iran and Oman to charge ships passing through Strait of Hormuz during ceasefire, state media says
Jessie Yeung
By Jessie Yeung
Iran and Oman plan to charge transit fees for vessels passing through the Strait of Hormuz during the two-week ceasefire, according to Iran’s semi-official Tasnim News Agency.

The funds will be earmarked for reconstruction, Tasnim reported.

CNN has asked Oman’s foreign ministry for comment.

The strait has been effectively closed since the war began, with maritime tracking data showing that only about 5% of the pre-war volume of shipping is getting through. Some tankers have been able to pass through; for instance, Pakistan and India have negotiated with Iran for guaranteed passage of some of their flagged vessels.

Iran has reportedly been charging up to $2 million per vessel for passage trough Hormuz. It’s unclear if any ship operators have paid the fee.


That's a relief, Bobby. Now we can all get some sleep.

Thanks, DL, for a job well done. Hail to the chief.

Turns out Donnie saved us in the end after all, no?

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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #14 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 2:52pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 2:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/07/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-us-israel


US and Iran agree to two-week ceasefire
Iran says its military will coordinate passage through Strait of Hormuz.


Updated 10:51 PM EDT, Tue April 7, 2026


Here's the latest
• New strikes after ceasefire announcement: Missile attacks were reported across the Gulf region and Israel shortly after President Donald Trump announced he’d agreed to a two-week ceasefire with Iran. An official says that the US military has paused strikes on Iran, but Israel is still carrying out strikes, an Israeli military spokesperson said.

• Strait of Hormuz: Iran’s military will coordinate passage of vessels through the critical Strait of Hormuz during the ceasefire, Iran’s foreign minister said. Trump said reopening the strait was a key condition of the ceasefire deal.

• What happens next? Pakistan’s prime minister has invited delegations from both Iran and the US to Islamabad for talks on Friday. Earlier Tuesday, Pakistan proposed the two-week ceasefire to allow for diplomacy.


18 min ago
Iran and Oman to charge ships passing through Strait of Hormuz during ceasefire, state media says
Jessie Yeung
By Jessie Yeung
Iran and Oman plan to charge transit fees for vessels passing through the Strait of Hormuz during the two-week ceasefire, according to Iran’s semi-official Tasnim News Agency.

The funds will be earmarked for reconstruction, Tasnim reported.

CNN has asked Oman’s foreign ministry for comment.

The strait has been effectively closed since the war began, with maritime tracking data showing that only about 5% of the pre-war volume of shipping is getting through. Some tankers have been able to pass through; for instance, Pakistan and India have negotiated with Iran for guaranteed passage of some of their flagged vessels.

Iran has reportedly been charging up to $2 million per vessel for passage trough Hormuz. It’s unclear if any ship operators have paid the fee.


That's a relief, Bobby. Now we can all get some sleep.

Thanks, DL, for a job well done. Hail to the chief.

Turns out Donnie saved us in the end after all, no?




A civilization has been saved  and we can get oil now.
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Er, just one thing - how do we know Iran won't take pot-shots at the boats?
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Big Donger wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
Er, just one thing - how do we know Iran won't take pot-shots at the boats?



They wouldn't dare.
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 3:00pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
Er, just one thing - how do we know Iran won't take pot-shots at the boats?



They wouldn't dare.


I don't think that's gonna fly with the insurance companies, Bobby. How do we know they'll take the risk?

Second question - how do we know DL will stick to his deal?

And a third - how do we even know he's made a deal to begin with?

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Reply #18 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:33pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 4:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 3:00pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
Er, just one thing - how do we know Iran won't take pot-shots at the boats?



They wouldn't dare.


I don't think that's gonna fly with the insurance companies, Bobby. How do we know they'll take the risk?

Second question - how do we know DL will stick to his deal?

And a third - how do we even know he's made a deal to begin with?

Cheers.



All sides have stopped attacking each other -

that's a good start.  Undecided
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Reply #19 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm
 
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.
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Reply #20 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:44pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/iran-continues-bombing-campaign-on-israel-d...

Iran continues bombing campaign on Israel despite Trump’s ceasefire announcement

Iran has continued launching missile attacks on Israel despite a recently announced ceasefire aimed at halting the conflict.

Air raid sirens and fresh strikes have been reported across Israel.

Officials say multiple waves of Iranian missiles were fired even after the ceasefire was declared.

Missiles have been intercepted over Tel Aviv, with no injuries reported.

The ongoing attacks have raised serious doubts about whether the ceasefire is being observed on the ground.
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Reply #21 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm
 

It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.
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Reply #22 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:59pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm:
It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.


Oh well, that's the end of that then.

The dead American soldiers will rise from their graves, the 150 murdered school girls will be back at their desks on Monday, petrol prices will go back to where they were before the illegal war, and there will be everlasting peace in the Middle East.

Glad it all worked out well.
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Reply #23 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm:
It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.


Oh well, that's the end of that then.

The dead American soldiers will rise from their graves, the 150 murdered school girls will be back at their desks on Monday, petrol prices will go back to where they were before the illegal war, and there will be everlasting peace in the Middle East.

Glad it all worked out well.



Nahh - one side will break the cease fire and it will be all on again.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:04pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm:
It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.


Oh well, that's the end of that then.

The dead American soldiers will rise from their graves, the 150 murdered school girls will be back at their desks on Monday, petrol prices will go back to where they were before the illegal war, and there will be everlasting peace in the Middle East.

Glad it all worked out well.



Nahh - one side will break the cease fire and it will be all on again.   Roll Eyes


Oh, you can bet your house on that Bobby.

And you can also bet it on more Americans being killed.

This is just the beginning - Trump will probably end up being one of the worst war criminals the world has ever seen.

Strap yourself in.

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Reply #25 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:06pm
 
ABC off to a good start - "Iran is retaliating with missiles" ....."Trump has agreed to the two week pause (the one he proposed)"... "Albo speaks about his 'de-escalation' in slow speech so we.... get... it ...."  "America's paper tiger revealed to the world"....

Israel decoupling its northern war from the attacks BY Iran ... well buggar me.... while ever you are being attacked.... 'humanity crisis in Lebanon, but the troublemakers will not give up.... so WTF ...

Iran says that since it has won victory, tankers can travel through the Straits they've been blocking... Big Victory there.... they were forced to concede.

Iran gives in and Trump is supposed to have 'lost'....

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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm:
It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.


Oh well, that's the end of that then.

The dead American soldiers will rise from their graves, the 150 murdered school girls will be back at their desks on Monday, petrol prices will go back to where they were before the illegal war, and there will be everlasting peace in the Middle East.

Glad it all worked out well.



Nahh - one side will break the cease fire and it will be all on again.   Roll Eyes


Oh, you can bet your house on that Bobby.

And you can also bet it on more Americans being killed.

This is just the beginning - Trump will probably end up being one of the worst war criminals the world has ever seen.

Strap yourself in.



Wait until the gloves are off - then you'll see who has the casualties.... the desultory and 'just making a point' US strikes to date are nothing compared to what will happen when IRAN breaks the ceasefire, which they are already doing by continuing missile strikes .....

You are kidding me,. right?

IRAN SURRENDERED NINETY MINUTES BEFORE FULL ON STRIKES.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #27 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm:
It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.


Oh well, that's the end of that then.

The dead American soldiers will rise from their graves, the 150 murdered school girls will be back at their desks on Monday, petrol prices will go back to where they were before the illegal war, and there will be everlasting peace in the Middle East.

Glad it all worked out well.



Nahh - one side will break the cease fire and it will be all on again.   Roll Eyes


Oh, you can bet your house on that Bobby.

And you can also bet it on more Americans being killed.

This is just the beginning - Trump will probably end up being one of the worst war criminals the world has ever seen.

Strap yourself in.




We know that In Lebanon and Gaza -

Israel broke cease fires 1000,s of times.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #28 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.


Well, Trump DID possibly scare them into a ceasefire with his threat to eliminate the 'civilizition of Iran' (which he could obviously do, even if alienating what remains of global regard for the US...).

But your Neanderthal acceptance of war as the dispute settlement mechanism between nations is itself brought into focus by this war.

Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" - an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law. 

Allowing Israel to contiue eliminating the religious zealots via genocide, as in Gaza, while murdering non-combatants.

Of course the fundamentalists in Iran are claiming a victory, as a consequence of Trump's apparent back-down,  they are very sick bunnies.

Meanwhile Oz's most celebrated soldier is facing "war crimes" - the direct result of the  UN's failure to outlaw war in 1945.
   
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TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.

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And his Hawaiian Obama birth certificate investigators will finally be returning stateside in two weeks with their findings. It's gonna be an exciting May sweeps.
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Reply #31 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war
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Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war



Check out the 1991 Gulf War -

The UN allowed war to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm:
It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.


It's only just begun, Bobby. Aquascoot's already announced the "paradigm shift".

Armageddonism, innit. It's time for the younger generation to apply the "evolutionary blowtorch" and cannibalize the seniors. Aquascoot's son-in-law's booked in the spearing. By this time next week, Aquascoot should be filtered, wrapped in paperbark and simmering away in an open fire pit.

It's the "noble thing" to do. Where will you spend Eternity?
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:27pm:
Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war



Check out the 1991 Gulf War -

The UN allowed war to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.


Think about what you say, were the UN going to make it illegal to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.
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Big Donger wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:33pm:
It's only just begun, Bobby. Aquascoot's already announced the "paradigm shift".

Armageddonism, innit. It's time for the younger generation to apply the "evolutionary blowtorch" and cannibalize the seniors. Aquascoot's son-in-law's booked in the spearing. By this time next week, Aquascoot should be filtered, wrapped in paperbark and simmering away in an open fire pit.

It's the "noble thing" to do. Where will you spend Eternity?


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Reply #36 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:52pm
 
Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:27pm:
Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war



Check out the 1991 Gulf War -

The UN allowed war to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.


Think about what you say, were the UN going to make it illegal to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.



They could have made it illegal.

History -

Kuwait was stolen from Iraq by the British and given to a tribe of Iraqi traitors.
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Iran breaks the cease fire.
      Shocked



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/kuwait-uae-say-they-are-under-attac...


Kuwait, UAE say they are under attack by Iranian drones, missiles despite ceasefire


By AFP and ToI Staff

Today, 12:57 pm


Kuwait says its air defenses are intercepting a wave of Iranian drones launched since 8 a.m. (0500 GMT), according to the army. The army says some drones targeted vital oil facilities, power stations and water desalination plants, causing major infrastructure damage.

At the same time the Ministry of Defense of the United Arab Emirates says its own air defenses are “engaging with missile and drone attacks originating from Iran.”

It is unclear why Iran is launching attacks despite the hours-old truce.
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Reply #38 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:34am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm:
We know that In Lebanon and Gaza -

Israel broke cease fires 1000,s of times.   Roll Eyes


And it continues. Israel has kept striking Lebanon, openly ignoring the spirit, if not the letter, of a ceasefire that was already held together with duct tape and spin.

Within hours of that, Iran moves to reassert control over the Strait again, explicitly tying it to those same Lebanese strikes, a linkage Washington insists doesn't exist while simultaneously scrambling to explain why the "ceasefire" keeps unravelling in real time.

Then you've got Karoline Leavitt stepping up to the podium declaring victory, even as her own administration is disputing whether the Strait is even closed, despite multiple reports of disruptions and Iranian enforcement on shipping.

So what you're left with is this absurd split-screen reality:
- on one side, "mission accomplished" theatrics,
- on the other, a ceasefire that doesn't cover half the battlefield and a global oil chokepoint sliding back into crisis.

Tired of winning yet?
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Reply #39 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:50am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm:
We know that In Lebanon and Gaza -

Israel broke cease fires 1000,s of times.   Roll Eyes


And it continues. Israel has kept striking Lebanon, openly ignoring the spirit, if not the letter, of a ceasefire that was already held together with duct tape and spin.

Within hours of that, Iran moves to reassert control over the Strait again, explicitly tying it to those same Lebanese strikes, a linkage Washington insists doesn't exist while simultaneously scrambling to explain why the "ceasefire" keeps unravelling in real time.

Then you've got Karoline Leavitt stepping up to the podium declaring victory, even as her own administration is disputing whether the Strait is even closed, despite multiple reports of disruptions and Iranian enforcement on shipping.

So what you're left with is this absurd split-screen reality:
- on one side, "mission accomplished" theatrics,
- on the other, a ceasefire that doesn't cover half the battlefield and a global oil chokepoint sliding back into crisis.

Tired of winning yet?



I just watched Al Jazeera video -
https://www.aljazeera.com/

800 ships are inside the Persian Gulf and only 2 went through in the last 24 hours.   Roll Eyes
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The cease fire won't last unless IRGC chief-commander Ahmad Vahidi is removed from pages of history.
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Reply #41 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:19am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm:
We know that In Lebanon and Gaza -

Israel broke cease fires 1000,s of times.   Roll Eyes


And it continues. Israel has kept striking Lebanon, openly ignoring the spirit, if not the letter, of a ceasefire that was already held together with duct tape and spin.

Within hours of that, Iran moves to reassert control over the Strait again, explicitly tying it to those same Lebanese strikes, a linkage Washington insists doesn't exist while simultaneously scrambling to explain why the "ceasefire" keeps unravelling in real time.

Then you've got Karoline Leavitt stepping up to the podium declaring victory, even as her own administration is disputing whether the Strait is even closed, despite multiple reports of disruptions and Iranian enforcement on shipping.

So what you're left with is this absurd split-screen reality:
- on one side, "mission accomplished" theatrics,
- on the other, a ceasefire that doesn't cover half the battlefield and a global oil chokepoint sliding back into crisis.

Tired of winning yet?



I just watched Al Jazeera video -
https://www.aljazeera.com/

800 ships are inside the Persian Gulf and only 2 went through in the last 24 hours.   Roll Eyes


It's never gonna work as long as Mango Mussolini is involved.

His minders need to tell him to just concentrate on his ballroom and let the adults sort out the mess he's made in the Middle East.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #42 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.


Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised

Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?
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dear Mr Sad,
none of the Middle East wars have ever led to anything good.

The USA created the monsters of:
Saddam,
Osama Bin Laden,
Iran -

and then their monsters turned on them.

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Reply #44 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:42am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.


Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised

Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?


Excellent post.

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Reply #45 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:49am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.


Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised


Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?


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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #46 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:50am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:42am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.


Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised


Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?


Excellent post.

Stand by for personal abuse from Frank.

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The cease fire is all bullshit.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iranian-media-claims-strait-of-horm...

Iranian media claims Strait of Hormuz is closed again;

maritime data shows oil tanker has been turned away


9 April 2026, 12:53 am
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Iran’s PressTV reports that the Strait of Hormuz has again been closed, after an oil tanker appears to have been turned away upon approaching the crossing.

According to the outlet, the oil tanker AUROURA made an abrupt 180-degree turn while approaching the strait’s exit and instead returned to the Persian Gulf.

The website MarineTraffic identifies the ship as being “at anchor” in the Persian Gulf, around two hours after PressTV claims it was turned back from the Strait of Hormuz.
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Reply #48 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:08am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:06am:
The cease fire is all bullshit.




Yes.

But don't worry Bobby, the US is sending JD to Pakistan to continue negotiations.

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Reply #49 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:31am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:06am:
The cease fire is all bullshit.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iranian-media-claims-strait-of-horm...

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maritime data shows oil tanker has been turned away


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Iran’s PressTV reports that the Strait of Hormuz has again been closed, after an oil tanker appears to have been turned away upon approaching the crossing.

According to the outlet, the oil tanker AUROURA made an abrupt 180-degree turn while approaching the strait’s exit and instead returned to the Persian Gulf.

The website MarineTraffic identifies the ship as being “at anchor” in the Persian Gulf, around two hours after PressTV claims it was turned back from the Strait of Hormuz.


Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more
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Reply #50 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:37am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:06am:
The cease fire is all bullshit.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iranian-media-claims-strait-of-horm...

Iranian media claims Strait of Hormuz is closed again;

maritime data shows oil tanker has been turned away


9 April 2026, 12:53 am
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Iran’s PressTV reports that the Strait of Hormuz has again been closed, after an oil tanker appears to have been turned away upon approaching the crossing.

According to the outlet, the oil tanker AUROURA made an abrupt 180-degree turn while approaching the strait’s exit and instead returned to the Persian Gulf.

The website MarineTraffic identifies the ship as being “at anchor” in the Persian Gulf, around two hours after PressTV claims it was turned back from the Strait of Hormuz.


Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more


Yep.

This is what a "ceasefire" looks like under two genocidal war criminals - Netanyahu & Trump.

Hundreds killed in 'barbaric' wave of Israeli strikes in Lebanon
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #51 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:47am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:06am:
The cease fire is all bullshit.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iranian-media-claims-strait-of-horm...

Iranian media claims Strait of Hormuz is closed again;

maritime data shows oil tanker has been turned away


9 April 2026, 12:53 am
Share

Iran’s PressTV reports that the Strait of Hormuz has again been closed, after an oil tanker appears to have been turned away upon approaching the crossing.

According to the outlet, the oil tanker AUROURA made an abrupt 180-degree turn while approaching the strait’s exit and instead returned to the Persian Gulf.

The website MarineTraffic identifies the ship as being “at anchor” in the Persian Gulf, around two hours after PressTV claims it was turned back from the Strait of Hormuz.


Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more


They also struck Iran's Oil Refinery on Lavan island, unless Trump did that...


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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #52 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:52am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am:
Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised

Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?


For those who don't like reading or want to dismis this as waffle or <insert insult here>, you can watch some dumbed-down versions that might be more your speed here:







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I place the blame 120% on israel and 1450% on america


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........   Israel continued to strike Lebanon, saying the country isn't included in the ceasefire deal. This prompted Iran to halt traffic on the Strait of Hormuz again in response to the attacks.       ........



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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #54 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:21am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:52am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am:
Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised

Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?


For those who don't like reading or want to dismis this as waffle or <insert insult here>, you can watch some dumbed-down versions that might be more your speed here:









Worst foreign policy stuff up in 250 years.

He really is the dumbest person on the planet.
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SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:47am:
Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more

They also struck Iran's Oil Refinery on Lavan island, unless Trump did that...




JD said Lebanon wasn't part of the ceasefire.

Quote:
Iranian sources claim UAE Mirage‑2000‑9 jets struck Lavan Island refinery, while the U.S. says it and Israel were not involved.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041962005406339557



UAE are responding to Iranian missile and drone attacks, paybacks can be a bitch
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White House says Trump threw Iran’s 10-point plan in the garbage.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041990489126187440



Quote:
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said the U.S. has not definitively accepted Iran charging tolls on ships in the Strait of Hormuz, stressing that the priority remains free, unrestricted passage and that President Trump hasn’t agreed to Iran collecting such fees.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041965864082161897


You can listen to the fake news or get the truth from Karoline


Why do people call threats of pay us money for protection or we blow up your ships as a toll?

Lefties like bending over and taking it up the arse from muslims look how they sugar coat these mafia type threats from Islamic regime.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:21am:
.............   Worst foreign policy stuff up in 250 years.

He really is the dumbest person on the planet.


he has no policy
us has no morals
he is the most disgusting vile damaging lying rapist murderer in the world right now.

this is why america voted him in.
he speaks their language of bomb, rape and kill
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



But the problem is dispute re 'self defense' - which is in the eye of the beholder.   

eg, Howard and Blair joined Bush's 'illegal' war because the US claimed Sadam had waepons of mass destruction -  while forgetting the US has weapons of mass destruction.....

Ditto for Israel and Iran.

The UN - a reflection of the men who compromised to create it (because the US and USSR demanded a veto) - is flawed; you either have international law enforceable by a UNSC without veto, or you don't. 



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🇺🇸🇮🇷🇮🇱 🇱🇧 Vance called the dispute over Lebanon a "misunderstanding," emphasizing that neither Washington nor Israel allegedly included the issue in the ceasefire agreement with Iran.

"I do think this is an understandable misunderstanding, but neither we nor the Israelis stated that this (Lebanon) would be part of the ceasefire agreement," Vance told reporters before departing Budapest for the United States.

Earlier, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ismail Baghaei stated that Israel's attack on Lebanon was a violation of the ceasefire reached between the US and Iran.


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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:59am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:21am:
.............   Worst foreign policy stuff up in 250 years.

He really is the dumbest person on the planet.


he has no policy
us has no morals
he is the most disgusting vile damaging lying rapist murderer in the world right now.

this is why america voted him in.
he speaks their language of bomb, rape and kill





Meh , most Americans voted for him because he's entertaining and a bit naughty.
Everyone hates those " stick up their ass, hall monitor types" like gweggy  ;
You can survive on oatmeal , but most Americans prefer strong flavours, strong stimuli, wild behaviour and erratic posts.
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What's changed in the last 24 hours?

The Americans performed a marvel of diplomatic balancing act, and it was truly spectacular.

Iranians? The strait is closed; only a couple of bulk carriers have passed through in the last 24 hours, even fewer than usual. They're claiming that a ceasefire and negotiations are pointless.
The Persians haven't lost much in the last 24 hours.

A one-day respite hasn't given anyone anything, other than a short-term change in oil prices and somebody made couple hundreds of millions dollars on that.
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None of the Middle East wars have ever led to anything good.

The USA created the monsters of:
Saddam,
Osama Bin Laden,
Iran -

and then their monsters turned on them.


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thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 12:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



But the problem is dispute re 'self defense' - which is in the eye of the beholder.   

eg, Howard and Blair joined Bush's 'illegal' war because the US claimed Sadam had waepons of mass destruction -  while forgetting the US has weapons of mass destruction.....

Ditto for Israel and Iran.

The UN - a reflection of the men who compromised to create it (because the US and USSR demanded a veto) - is flawed; you either have international law enforceable by a UNSC without veto, or you don't. 




But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 12:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



But the problem is dispute re 'self defense' - which is in the eye of the beholder.   

eg, Howard and Blair joined Bush's 'illegal' war because the US claimed Sadam had waepons of mass destruction -  while forgetting the US has weapons of mass destruction.....

Ditto for Israel and Iran.

The UN - a reflection of the men who compromised to create it (because the US and USSR demanded a veto) - is flawed; you either have international law enforceable by a UNSC without veto, or you don't. 




But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.
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Reply #65 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.
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lol... definitely deranged.

Donald Trump mulls punishing NATO countries that didn’t assist Iran war effort: report

President Trump is reportedly weighing a plan to punish NATO allies that refused to assist the US in the war with Iran.

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President Trump is reportedly weighing a plan to punish NATO allies that refused to assist the US in the war with Iran.

Under the proposed plan, the Trump administration would pull US troops out of NATO countries that were unhelpful with Operation Epic Fury, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, citing Trump administration officials.

The plan is one of several being considered by the White House to punish members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, according to the outlet.


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Trump has recently threatened to reassess US membership in NATO over the alliance’s lack of assistance with the Iran war and reopening the Strait of Hormuz.

“NATO WASN’T THERE WHEN WE NEEDED THEM, AND THEY WON’T BE THERE IF WE NEED THEM AGAIN,” Trump posted on Truth Social Wednesday night. “REMEMBER GREENLAND, THAT BIG, POORLY RUN, PIECE OF ICE!!! President DJT”


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I'm sure he must do most or all of his "Truth" Social posts while he's doing this:
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.


Watch this space.
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Reply #68 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.


Watch this space.



yeah? - would you be the hangman?


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Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.



Why would Trump go to the Hague.
He can just call it a poo hole country and head off to the golf course
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.


Watch this space.



yeah? - would you be the hangman?




The ICC doesn't impose the death sentence, which is good.

Prison for those two is perfect.

Imprisonment: Individuals found guilty of war crimes, crimes against humanity, or genocide are sentenced to prison terms. The ICC can impose life sentences.
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Reply #71 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:57pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.



Why would Trump go to the Hague.
He can just call it a poo hole country and head off to the golf course



Trump should go to the Hague and give himself up and so should pisspot Pete.   Roll Eyes
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.



Why would Trump go to the Hague.
He can just call it a poo hole country and head off to the golf course



Trump should go to the Hague and give himself up and so should pisspot Pete.   Roll Eyes


As should Trump's puppet masters, Putin & Netanyahu.

Three of the most evil people on the planet.


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Reply #73 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:17pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.



Why would Trump go to the Hague.
He can just call it a poo hole country and head off to the golf course



Trump should go to the Hague and give himself up and so should pisspot Pete.   Roll Eyes


As should Trump's puppet masters, Putin & Netanyahu.

Three of the most evil people on the planet.




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aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 12:26pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:59am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:21am:
.............   Worst foreign policy stuff up in 250 years.

He really is the dumbest person on the planet.


he has no policy
us has no morals
he is the most disgusting vile damaging lying rapist murderer in the world right now.

this is why america voted him in.
he speaks their language of bomb, rape and kill





Meh , most Americans voted for him because he's entertaining and a bit naughty.
Everyone hates those " stick up their ass, hall monitor types" like gweggy  ;
You can survive on oatmeal , but most Americans prefer strong flavours, strong stimuli, wild behaviour and erratic posts.
Makes their lives seem like less drudgery


Yes, but you said that when they voted for Metameucil Joe, dear.

So much winning, you said.

Oh? We said. He lost.

I know, you said, but Donnie's trying to get into prison. He wants to hit the gym and work on his pecs.

Couldn't he just do that at Mar a Lago? We said.

Yes, but he vibes with adversity, you said. The SM usually does.

Anyhoo, he changed his mind and decided to become prez instead. A real "win win".

The Real Americans got high gas and grocery prices and a couple of endless wars.

Donnie got $8 bil. Turned out corruption wasn't so bad after all, no?

The Don can buy himself some new pecs if he likes. Or, if he's curious, put on a pair of pink hot pants and join Kristi's hubby online.

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, ja?
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.



Why would Trump go to the Hague.
He can just call it a poo hole country and head off to the golf course



Trump should go to the Hague and give himself up and so should pisspot Pete.   Roll Eyes


What?
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Reply #76 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.



Why would Trump go to the Hague.
He can just call it a poo hole country and head off to the golf course



Trump should go to the Hague and give himself up and so should pisspot Pete.   Roll Eyes


As should Trump's puppet masters, Putin & Netanyahu.

Three of the most evil people on the planet.

Only the rope can save our planet.


Only nuke, only hardcore  Grin

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No Tallo,

imagine of every bad guy in the world was hanged -
it would be such a good place to live in.


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Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
No Tallo,

imagine of every bad guy in the world was hanged -
it would be such a good place to live in.


https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/c9/76/d6/c976d668e6d7b80f29182b39a7b52e51.g...


Nuke is more effective  Wink
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Reply #79 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:55pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:47am:
Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more

They also struck Iran's Oil Refinery on Lavan island, unless Trump did that...




JD said Lebanon wasn't part of the ceasefire.



The Pakistani mediators said it was.

Let's look at the text of the ceasefire agreement then.

Oh wait, we can't, because like all things Trump, he half arsed it and there isn't any.

Yet we're still championing his ceasefire?

Tired of winning yet?
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Reply #80 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:16pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:55pm:
The Pakistani mediators said it was.

Let's look at the text of the ceasefire agreement then.

Oh wait, we can't, because like all things Trump, he half arsed it and there isn't any.

Yet we're still championing his ceasefire?

Tired of winning yet?




Trump was sold a pack of lies from Bibi - 

oil tankers are sitting ducks in the Strait of Hormuz -
worse than that - they are floating bombs
that can be ignited with one match -
yet alone a drone or missile. 

No one can stop the Iranians blowing them up.
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tallowood wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 4:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
No Tallo,

imagine of every bad guy in the world was hanged -
it would be such a good place to live in.


https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/c9/76/d6/c976d668e6d7b80f29182b39a7b52e51.g...


Nuke is more effective  Wink


Yes but realistically nobody will Nuke Trump.
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Reply #82 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 10:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:16pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:55pm:
The Pakistani mediators said it was.

Let's look at the text of the ceasefire agreement then.

Oh wait, we can't, because like all things Trump, he half arsed it and there isn't any.

Yet we're still championing his ceasefire?

Tired of winning yet?




Trump was sold a pack of lies from Bibi - 

oil tankers are sitting ducks in the Strait of Hormuz -
worse than that - they are floating bombs
that can be ignited with one match -
yet alone a drone or missile. 

No one can stop the Iranians blowing them up.


Everyone warned Trump, so he got rid of them.

He's not the victim here, he chose this, he's the president, the buck stops with him.
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Reply #83 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 10:42pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 3:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:10pm:
But in this latest war - the UN wasn't even consulted - Trump went rogue.   Roll Eyes


The US is now a rogue state.

Trump & Hegseth are terrorists.



Then they should be on trial at the Hague.



Why would Trump go to the Hague.
He can just call it a poo hole country and head off to the golf course



Trump should go to the Hague and give himself up and so should pisspot Pete.   Roll Eyes


What?


I said what?
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Reply #84 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:20pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:55pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:47am:
Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more

They also struck Iran's Oil Refinery on Lavan island, unless Trump did that...




JD said Lebanon wasn't part of the ceasefire.



The Pakistani mediators said it was.

Let's look at the text of the ceasefire agreement then.

Oh wait, we can't, because like all things Trump, he half arsed it and there isn't any.

Yet we're still championing his ceasefire?

Tired of winning yet?


Here is video with JD who took part in negotiations saying Lebanon wasn't part of the deal.
Quote:
Vice President JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041997167397659117


The US isn't doing any military operations in Lebanon why would they agree to any ceasefire with Lebanon when they aren't blowing stuff up there?
How can they ceasefire there when they aren't firing anything?

Hezbollah translated from Arabic = "Party of God"
Hezbollah started attacking Israel on Oct 7th same day Hamas attacked Israel.
Lebanese government can't control Hezbollah they have asked them to stop attacking Israel they have ignored the Lebanese government and continue to fire unguided rockets into Israel which is a war crime.

Israel isn't attacking Lebanon they're attacking Hezbollah which the Australian government has listed as a terrorist group

Under Australian law, it is illegal to:
Be a member of Hizballah
Provide support, funds, or resources to the group
Recruit for it or associate with it in certain ways
Display its symbols/flags
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/what-australia-is-doing/terrorist-organisati...

A ceasefire between Israel and the terrorist group Hezbollah has nothing to do with the US.

We know leftists like you are simping for terrorists through ignorance or stupidity or a combination of both.






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Reply #85 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:32pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:16pm:
Trump was sold a pack of lies from Bibi - 

oil tankers are sitting ducks in the Strait of Hormuz -
worse than that - they are floating bombs
that can be ignited with one match -
yet alone a drone or missile. 

No one can stop the Iranians blowing them up.


Are you saying it's Trumps fault the Mad Mullahs want to blow up commercial shipping in International waters?
Should Islamic regime be the one blamed for this?

What would happen if Iran did get a Nuke and wiped Israel out then started blowing up oil tankers if anyone responded?
Would we have a serious problem with a nuclear power holding the world to ransom with oil because of some dusty old books from the dark ages?

Saudis UAE etc are talking about building a pipeline north to Israeli port so oil exports bypass Mad Mullah regime
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:54pm:


UAE did that one i posted on that earlier today.

Iran has been firing missiles and drones at UAE since this started.

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Reply #88 - Apr 10th, 2026 at 10:49am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:20pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:55pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:47am:
Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more

They also struck Iran's Oil Refinery on Lavan island, unless Trump did that...




JD said Lebanon wasn't part of the ceasefire.



The Pakistani mediators said it was.

Let's look at the text of the ceasefire agreement then.

Oh wait, we can't, because like all things Trump, he half arsed it and there isn't any.

Yet we're still championing his ceasefire?

Tired of winning yet?


Here is video with JD who took part in negotiations saying Lebanon wasn't part of the deal.
Quote:
Vice President JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041997167397659117


The US isn't doing any military operations in Lebanon why would they agree to any ceasefire with Lebanon when they aren't blowing stuff up there?
How can they ceasefire there when they aren't firing anything?

Hezbollah translated from Arabic = "Party of God"
Hezbollah started attacking Israel on Oct 7th same day Hamas attacked Israel.
Lebanese government can't control Hezbollah they have asked them to stop attacking Israel they have ignored the Lebanese government and continue to fire unguided rockets into Israel which is a war crime.

Israel isn't attacking Lebanon they're attacking Hezbollah which the Australian government has listed as a terrorist group

Under Australian law, it is illegal to:
Be a member of Hizballah
Provide support, funds, or resources to the group
Recruit for it or associate with it in certain ways
Display its symbols/flags
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/what-australia-is-doing/terrorist-organisati...

A ceasefire between Israel and the terrorist group Hezbollah has nothing to do with the US.

We know leftists like you are simping for terrorists through ignorance or stupidity or a combination of both.








So you can't point to the text of the ceasefire that excludes Lebanon?
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The murder has to stop:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-strikes-kill-more-than-180-in-central...


Published on Apr 9, 2026

Israeli strikes kill more than 300 people in one day in Lebanon, saying Iran truce doesn't apply



BEIRUT (AP) — Lebanon reeled Thursday after the deadliest day of the renewed war between Israel and the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militant group, with the death toll exceeding 300 people as more remains were pulled from rubble and bodies identified at hospitals. Meanwhile, Israel made the surprise announcement of authorizing direct talks with Lebanon, despite their lack of diplomatic ties. Israeli attacks continued.



The Health Ministry said that 1,150 people were also wounded in the widespread strikes that rocked Lebanon on Wednesday, including in busy parts of Beirut.

There was no immediate response to the Israeli announcement from Lebanon, which had repeatedly proposed talks to end the war, or from Hezbollah. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that talks would focus on disarming Hezbollah and "establishing peaceful relations" between the countries.
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SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 10th, 2026 at 10:49am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:20pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 8:55pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 11:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 9:47am:
Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more

They also struck Iran's Oil Refinery on Lavan island, unless Trump did that...




JD said Lebanon wasn't part of the ceasefire.



The Pakistani mediators said it was.

Let's look at the text of the ceasefire agreement then.

Oh wait, we can't, because like all things Trump, he half arsed it and there isn't any.

Yet we're still championing his ceasefire?

Tired of winning yet?


Here is video with JD who took part in negotiations saying Lebanon wasn't part of the deal.
Quote:
Vice President JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041997167397659117


The US isn't doing any military operations in Lebanon why would they agree to any ceasefire with Lebanon when they aren't blowing stuff up there?
How can they ceasefire there when they aren't firing anything?

Hezbollah translated from Arabic = "Party of God"
Hezbollah started attacking Israel on Oct 7th same day Hamas attacked Israel.
Lebanese government can't control Hezbollah they have asked them to stop attacking Israel they have ignored the Lebanese government and continue to fire unguided rockets into Israel which is a war crime.

Israel isn't attacking Lebanon they're attacking Hezbollah which the Australian government has listed as a terrorist group

Under Australian law, it is illegal to:
Be a member of Hizballah
Provide support, funds, or resources to the group
Recruit for it or associate with it in certain ways
Display its symbols/flags
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/what-australia-is-doing/terrorist-organisati...

A ceasefire between Israel and the terrorist group Hezbollah has nothing to do with the US.

We know leftists like you are simping for terrorists through ignorance or stupidity or a combination of both.








So you can't point to the text of the ceasefire that excludes Lebanon?



We're gonna take that as a 'no', Baron.

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Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2026 at 11:01am:
The murder has to stop:



Indeed.

It won't though.

Not while two blood-thirsty, genocidal sociopaths are calling the shots.

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Well - the Pakis didn't negotiate a ceasefire on Hezbollah with Israel - they seem to mistake Trump for some kind of global dictator who could just order them to stop defending Israel.

It's a common error from those who live under despotic governance such as the gross imposition of Islam.  They seem to imagine he is an Ayatollah with total powers from God .. but he is only a US President bound by rules and constraints... not some 'living god', but a man.

It shows, really - that the ceasefire offer - which was what Trump was after alongside the re-opening of the Strait - was not genuine.  They knew when presenting these outrageous deands that they could not be sustained, so they were merely looking for an excuse for Iran to re-commence hostilities and try to play the victim and the good guy.

With good guys like that - who needs enemies?
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That's what you get when you declare holy war on the world.

Clearly the Ayatollah considers himself the new Mahdi...
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 10th, 2026 at 12:42pm:
Well - the Pakis didn't negotiate a ceasefire on Hezbollah with Israel - they seem to mistake Trump for some kind of global dictator who could just order them to stop defending Israel.

It's a common error from those who live under despotic governance such as the gross imposition of Islam.  They seem to imagine he is an Ayatollah with total powers from God .. but he is only a US President bound by rules and constraints... not some 'living god', but a man.

It shows, really - that the ceasefire offer - which was what Trump was after alongside the re-opening of the Strait - was not genuine.  They knew when presenting these outrageous deands that they could not be sustained, so they were merely looking for an excuse for Iran to re-commence hostilities and try to play the victim and the good guy.

With good guys like that - who needs enemies?


What you've written isn't analysis, it's a pile of lazy deflections wrapped in casual racism.

Referring to Pakistanis as "Pakis" while lecturing others about "despotic governance" doesn't make you sound informed, it just advertises the level of bias driving your entire argument. If you start from that place, of course you're going to contort reality to defend Trump and absolve Israel of any responsibility.

The core issue you're dodging is simple, if a ceasefire is mediated and explicitly understood to include Lebanon, then continuing strikes on Lebanese territory, regardless of whether you label the target Hezbollah, is a breach in substance if not in semantics. You don't get to redefine a ceasefire after the fact to excuse ongoing military action.

And this idea that Trump is just a passive actor "bound by constraints" is revisionism. No one is claiming he's an ayatollah, but he is the President of the United States, the primary backer of Israel, with enormous leverage. If he proposes or endorses a ceasefire framework, he owns the credibility of that framework. If it collapses while one side continues striking, hand-waving it away as "defence" isn't neutrality, it's complicity.

Your claim that the ceasefire was never genuine is also convenient, it shifts blame onto Iran by asserting bad faith without actually engaging with the sequence of events. It's an unfalsifiable excuse, not an argument. By that logic, any breach by Israel is pre-justified, and any response by Iran is proof of their duplicity. That's circular reasoning.

What's actually happening here is far more straightforward, you're starting with the conclusion that Trump and Israel must be right, and then working backwards to rationalise every contradiction, even if that means ignoring the mediator's stated terms and pretending geography doesn't count.

If you want to have a serious discussion, drop the slurs, drop the double standards, and engage with the reality that ceasefires aren't meaningful if one side can keep bombing a neighbouring country and call it "not part of the deal".
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'Donald Trump has warned Iran it holds 'no cards' ahead of crucial peace talks set to be held in Islamabad, Pakistan.

US President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social, “The Iranians don’t seem to realise they have no cards other than a short-term extortion of the world by using international waterways.”'

The Ayatollahs threaten Holy Israel's imperial power. They are the same as Zelenskyy who holds no cards. Ukraine threatens Putin's empire and will get Iran's treatment under American justice.  This will include Trump swearing at them in tweets.
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Participants in the talks in Islamabad

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So long as the Iranian regime – or Hamas or Hezbollah -- is able to survive, there will be no disarmament, no moderation, and no peace.

The repeated refusals by Iran's regime, Hamas and Hezbollah expose the failure of any policy built on engagement, incentives, or accommodation.

These terror entities do not interpret diplomatic overtures, off-ramps and ceasefires as goodwill. They view them instead as weakness.


They are right. It is, indeed, the West's fault that it allows itself to be exploited. The West not only gives these leaders time to rearm and rebuild, but worse, it grants them legitimacy and power bases throughout Europe and the United States. No one in the West even asks them to concede anything of substance.


Every pause that leaves them intact only strengthens their belief that they are winning.

Until there is a better understanding by the West of what jihad actually is -- and the uncompromising determination behind it -- every negotiation, threat and ceasefire will only lead to more terrorism and the next war.
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For the Iranian regime and its proxies, survival equals victory. If they are not destroyed, if they retain their weapons, if they remain in power, they can claim success.

So far as they are concerned, there are no compromises. In any conflict, no matter how severe, if any of their leaders -- no matter how freshly branded -- are still standing, that is proof that their strategy of armed confrontation, refusing to back down, and jihad works.

This outlook is precisely why all ceasefires will be repeatedly exploited by Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah. The ceasefires are regarded simply as opportunities that provide time to rearm, regroup, and prepare for the next round of fighting. They reinforce the belief that jihad and "resistance" deliver results.

For the US, this should be the clearest warning sign: negotiations, promises, ceasefire agreements -- all intended by the West to reduce violence -- are instead interpreted as validation of the jihadists' approach.

The Western belief that negotiations and ceasefires can evolve into peace agreements with Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Iranian regime is – as has been proven – unfortunately false.

In these cultures, agreements do not have a moderating effect on the power structures. Negotiations, threats, and even bombings do not deter anyone or lead to disarmament. On the contrary, they reinforce defiance.
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Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 9:52am:
So long as the Iranian regime – or Hamas or Hezbollah -- is able to survive, there will be no disarmament, no moderation, and no peace.

The repeated refusals by Iran's regime, Hamas and Hezbollah expose the failure of any policy built on engagement, incentives, or accommodation.

These terror entities do not interpret diplomatic overtures, off-ramps and ceasefires as goodwill. They view them instead as weakness.


They are right. It is, indeed, the West's fault that it allows itself to be exploited. The West not only gives these leaders time to rearm and rebuild, but worse, it grants them legitimacy and power bases throughout Europe and the United States. No one in the West even asks them to concede anything of substance.


Every pause that leaves them intact only strengthens their belief that they are winning.

Until there is a better understanding by the West of what jihad actually is -- and the uncompromising determination behind it -- every negotiation, threat and ceasefire will only lead to more terrorism and the next war.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/22453/iran-hamas-hezbollah-power





I say, dear boy, a penny for your thoughts. Do you support boots on the ground in Iran?

General Caine's been reviewing the options. A land invasion of Iran, a country with 1.5 million active troops, will require at least 500,000 American soldiers, necessitating the return of the draft.

Do you support that?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 9:55am:
For the Iranian regime and its proxies, survival equals victory. If they are not destroyed, if they retain their weapons, if they remain in power, they can claim success.

So far as they are concerned, there are no compromises. In any conflict, no matter how severe, if any of their leaders -- no matter how freshly branded -- are still standing, that is proof that their strategy of armed confrontation, refusing to back down, and jihad works.

This outlook is precisely why all ceasefires will be repeatedly exploited by Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah. The ceasefires are regarded simply as opportunities that provide time to rearm, regroup, and prepare for the next round of fighting. They reinforce the belief that jihad and "resistance" deliver results.

For the US, this should be the clearest warning sign: negotiations, promises, ceasefire agreements -- all intended by the West to reduce violence -- are instead interpreted as validation of the jihadists' approach.

The Western belief that negotiations and ceasefires can evolve into peace agreements with Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Iranian regime is – as has been proven – unfortunately false.

In these cultures, agreements do not have a moderating effect on the power structures. Negotiations, threats, and even bombings do not deter anyone or lead to disarmament. On the contrary, they reinforce defiance.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/22453/iran-hamas-hezbollah-power


Don't lie, old boy. Pete's already carried out regime change, as DL says.

He's made the world 100% safer, even if we had to cop a minor fuel supply shock in return.

And that's okay. We can now buy our fuel from America, Venezuela, Russia and Iran, so that's that.

We will make America great again, no?
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Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 3:03pm:
Don't lie, old boy. Pete's already carried out regime change, as DL says.

He's made the world 100% safer, even if we had to cop a minor fuel supply shock in return.

And that's okay. We can now buy our fuel from America, Venezuela, Russia and Iran, so that's that.

We will make America great again, no?





Sure, Pete. That sounds real noble.
But the things is, Petey,  everybody thinks God is on their side. Every dictator who ever burned a village. Every inquisitor who ever lit a match. Every warlord who marched into somebody else's country waving a cross or a crescent or whatever holy symbol was handy that week.
They all said the same thing. God gave us this. God is with us.
It's the oldest trick in the book, actually. Wrap your politics in religion and suddenly nobody's allowed to question you... because questioning you means questioning the Almighty. Very convenient.
And Pete Hegseth, of all people, is going to tell us which rights God endorses? The guy's a Fox News host turned Defense Secretary. Not exactly Moses coming down from the mountain.
Look, the idea that rights come from God and not government sounds deep. It's meant to. But the moment you start deciding which rights God gave us... and which ones He apparently forgot, that's just one man's opinion dressed up in a robe and a halo.
Only the truly convinced... or the truly unquestioning... will hear that quote and think: yes, finally, someone who speaks for the divine.
The rest of us will just nod politely and back away slowly... chuckling.
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They've given up on deadlines now.

'President Rapist and convicted felon Donald Trump announced the extension of the ceasefire with Iran to continue until a "unified proposal" for peace is submitted by Tehran, effectively removing an immediate expiration date.'

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Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 3:15pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 3:03pm:
Don't lie, old boy. Pete's already carried out regime change, as DL says.

He's made the world 100% safer, even if we had to cop a minor fuel supply shock in return.

And that's okay. We can now buy our fuel from America, Venezuela, Russia and Iran, so that's that.

We will make America great again, no?





Sure, Pete. That sounds real noble.
But the things is, Petey,  everybody thinks God is on their side. Every dictator who ever burned a village. Every inquisitor who ever lit a match. Every warlord who marched into somebody else's country waving a cross or a crescent or whatever holy symbol was handy that week.
They all said the same thing. God gave us this. God is with us.
It's the oldest trick in the book, actually. Wrap your politics in religion and suddenly nobody's allowed to question you... because questioning you means questioning the Almighty. Very convenient.
And Pete Hegseth, of all people, is going to tell us which rights God endorses? The guy's a Fox News host turned Defense Secretary. Not exactly Moses coming down from the mountain.
Look, the idea that rights come from God and not government sounds deep. It's meant to. But the moment you start deciding which rights God gave us... and which ones He apparently forgot, that's just one man's opinion dressed up in a robe and a halo.
Only the truly convinced... or the truly unquestioning... will hear that quote and think: yes, finally, someone who speaks for the divine.
The rest of us will just nod politely and back away slowly... chuckling.


Don't be so disrespectful, Bobby. You're not talking about "Petey", you're talking about God.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 3:22pm:
They've given up on deadlines now.

'President Rapist and convicted felon Donald Trump announced the extension of the ceasefire with Iran to continue until a "unified proposal" for peace is submitted by Tehran, effectively removing an immediate expiration date.'



No no, Greggery, Bobby gave him six weeks. He distinctly said, and I quote, I'm going to give DL the benefit of the doubt here, but if he hasn't fixed this mess up in six weeks, I will "rescind all support...

Yes, we said, finish the sentence.

"...worship and devotion hitherto and henceforth."

Thanks, Bobby, we said. You've got six weeks.

Time's up.

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Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:05pm:
Don't be so disrespectful, Bobby. You're not talking about "Petey", you're talking about God.




A recovering pisspot now things he's killing people
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Sure, Pete. That sounds real noble.
But the things is, Petey,  everybody thinks God is on their side. Every dictator who ever burned a village. Every inquisitor who ever lit a match. Every warlord who marched into somebody else's country waving a cross or a crescent or whatever holy symbol was handy that week.
They all said the same thing. God gave us this. God is with us.
It's the oldest trick in the book, actually. Wrap your politics in religion and suddenly nobody's allowed to question you... because questioning you means questioning the Almighty. Very convenient.
And Pete Hegseth, of all people, is going to tell us which rights God endorses? The guy's a Fox News host turned Defense Secretary. Not exactly Moses coming down from the mountain.
Look, the idea that rights come from God and not government sounds deep. It's meant to. But the moment you start deciding which rights God gave us... and which ones He apparently forgot, that's just one man's opinion dressed up in a robe and a halo.
Only the truly convinced... or the truly unquestioning... will hear that quote and think: yes, finally, someone who speaks for the divine.
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:23pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:05pm:
Don't be so disrespectful, Bobby. You're not talking about "Petey", you're talking about God.




A recovering pisspot now things he's killing people
in the name of God when the Bible says -

thou shalt not kill.


So, you formally rescind all support, worship and devotion henceforth or hitherto, do you?

You'll need to say it, Bobby.
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Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:23pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:05pm:
Don't be so disrespectful, Bobby. You're not talking about "Petey", you're talking about God.




A recovering pisspot now things he's killing people
in the name of God when the Bible says -

thou shalt not kill.


So, you formally rescind all support, worship and devotion henceforth or hitherto, do you?

You'll need to say it, Bobby.




He could be one of the demons that appears for the anti-Christ:


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hsYrhMF42ls
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Reply #109 - Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:59pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:53pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:23pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 23rd, 2026 at 6:05pm:
Don't be so disrespectful, Bobby. You're not talking about "Petey", you're talking about God.




A recovering pisspot now things he's killing people
in the name of God when the Bible says -

thou shalt not kill.


So, you formally rescind all support, worship and devotion henceforth or hitherto, do you?

You'll need to say it, Bobby.




He could be one of the demons that appears for the anti-Christ:


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hsYrhMF42ls


Don't stall, Bobby. Say it properly.

Time's up.
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