SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 7:21am:


Excellent post.

Stand by for personal abuse from Frank.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:06am:


Apparently israel bombed Lebanon more

Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised

Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 7:21am:


For those who don't like reading or want to dismis this as waffle or <insert insult here>, you can watch some dumbed-down versions that might be more your speed here:

White House says Trump threw Iran’s 10-point plan in the garbage.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041990489126187440

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said the U.S. has not definitively accepted Iran charging tolls on ships in the Strait of Hormuz, stressing that the priority remains free, unrestricted passage and that President Trump hasn’t agreed to Iran collecting such fees.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2041965864082161897

TGD,
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War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.