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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #30 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:18pm
 
And his Hawaiian Obama birth certificate investigators will finally be returning stateside in two weeks with their findings. It's gonna be an exciting May sweeps.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #31 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #32 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:27pm
 
Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war



Check out the 1991 Gulf War -

The UN allowed war to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #33 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:48pm:
It has stopped now:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-us-to-suspend-bombing-of-iran-for-2-weeks-wh...

An official said the US had halted all offensive operations against Iran,
though Iran continued to fire missiles at Israel,
and Israeli forces kept striking targets in the Islamic Republic,
in the first two hours after the announcement.


It's only just begun, Bobby. Aquascoot's already announced the "paradigm shift".

Armageddonism, innit. It's time for the younger generation to apply the "evolutionary blowtorch" and cannibalize the seniors. Aquascoot's son-in-law's booked in the spearing. By this time next week, Aquascoot should be filtered, wrapped in paperbark and simmering away in an open fire pit.

It's the "noble thing" to do. Where will you spend Eternity?
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #34 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:27pm:
Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war



Check out the 1991 Gulf War -

The UN allowed war to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.


Think about what you say, were the UN going to make it illegal to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #35 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:48pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:33pm:
It's only just begun, Bobby. Aquascoot's already announced the "paradigm shift".

Armageddonism, innit. It's time for the younger generation to apply the "evolutionary blowtorch" and cannibalize the seniors. Aquascoot's son-in-law's booked in the spearing. By this time next week, Aquascoot should be filtered, wrapped in paperbark and simmering away in an open fire pit.

It's the "noble thing" to do. Where will you spend Eternity?


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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #36 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:52pm
 
Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:27pm:
Leroy wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
TGD,
Quote:
Admittedly the UN itself holds to the absurd concept of "legal war" -
an insanity which is why war is still legal in international law.


War is allowed for self defence if approved by the UN.



How does that work, if they don't approve of you defending yourself when attacked that would be illegal defense.

I don't see war as legal or illegal but at war and not at war



Check out the 1991 Gulf War -

The UN allowed war to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.


Think about what you say, were the UN going to make it illegal to kick Saddam out of Kuwait.



They could have made it illegal.

History -

Kuwait was stolen from Iraq by the British and given to a tribe of Iraqi traitors.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #37 - Apr 8th, 2026 at 8:14pm
 
Iran breaks the cease fire.
      Shocked



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/kuwait-uae-say-they-are-under-attac...


Kuwait, UAE say they are under attack by Iranian drones, missiles despite ceasefire


By AFP and ToI Staff

Today, 12:57 pm


Kuwait says its air defenses are intercepting a wave of Iranian drones launched since 8 a.m. (0500 GMT), according to the army. The army says some drones targeted vital oil facilities, power stations and water desalination plants, causing major infrastructure damage.

At the same time the Ministry of Defense of the United Arab Emirates says its own air defenses are “engaging with missile and drone attacks originating from Iran.”

It is unclear why Iran is launching attacks despite the hours-old truce.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #38 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:34am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm:
We know that In Lebanon and Gaza -

Israel broke cease fires 1000,s of times.   Roll Eyes


And it continues. Israel has kept striking Lebanon, openly ignoring the spirit, if not the letter, of a ceasefire that was already held together with duct tape and spin.

Within hours of that, Iran moves to reassert control over the Strait again, explicitly tying it to those same Lebanese strikes, a linkage Washington insists doesn't exist while simultaneously scrambling to explain why the "ceasefire" keeps unravelling in real time.

Then you've got Karoline Leavitt stepping up to the podium declaring victory, even as her own administration is disputing whether the Strait is even closed, despite multiple reports of disruptions and Iranian enforcement on shipping.

So what you're left with is this absurd split-screen reality:
- on one side, "mission accomplished" theatrics,
- on the other, a ceasefire that doesn't cover half the battlefield and a global oil chokepoint sliding back into crisis.

Tired of winning yet?
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #39 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:50am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm:
We know that In Lebanon and Gaza -

Israel broke cease fires 1000,s of times.   Roll Eyes


And it continues. Israel has kept striking Lebanon, openly ignoring the spirit, if not the letter, of a ceasefire that was already held together with duct tape and spin.

Within hours of that, Iran moves to reassert control over the Strait again, explicitly tying it to those same Lebanese strikes, a linkage Washington insists doesn't exist while simultaneously scrambling to explain why the "ceasefire" keeps unravelling in real time.

Then you've got Karoline Leavitt stepping up to the podium declaring victory, even as her own administration is disputing whether the Strait is even closed, despite multiple reports of disruptions and Iranian enforcement on shipping.

So what you're left with is this absurd split-screen reality:
- on one side, "mission accomplished" theatrics,
- on the other, a ceasefire that doesn't cover half the battlefield and a global oil chokepoint sliding back into crisis.

Tired of winning yet?



I just watched Al Jazeera video -
https://www.aljazeera.com/

800 ships are inside the Persian Gulf and only 2 went through in the last 24 hours.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #40 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:12am
 
The cease fire won't last unless IRGC chief-commander Ahmad Vahidi is removed from pages of history.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #41 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:19am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 7:09pm:
We know that In Lebanon and Gaza -

Israel broke cease fires 1000,s of times.   Roll Eyes


And it continues. Israel has kept striking Lebanon, openly ignoring the spirit, if not the letter, of a ceasefire that was already held together with duct tape and spin.

Within hours of that, Iran moves to reassert control over the Strait again, explicitly tying it to those same Lebanese strikes, a linkage Washington insists doesn't exist while simultaneously scrambling to explain why the "ceasefire" keeps unravelling in real time.

Then you've got Karoline Leavitt stepping up to the podium declaring victory, even as her own administration is disputing whether the Strait is even closed, despite multiple reports of disruptions and Iranian enforcement on shipping.

So what you're left with is this absurd split-screen reality:
- on one side, "mission accomplished" theatrics,
- on the other, a ceasefire that doesn't cover half the battlefield and a global oil chokepoint sliding back into crisis.

Tired of winning yet?



I just watched Al Jazeera video -
https://www.aljazeera.com/

800 ships are inside the Persian Gulf and only 2 went through in the last 24 hours.   Roll Eyes


It's never gonna work as long as Mango Mussolini is involved.

His minders need to tell him to just concentrate on his ballroom and let the adults sort out the mess he's made in the Middle East.
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #42 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.


Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised

Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?
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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #43 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:37am
 
dear Mr Sad,
none of the Middle East wars have ever led to anything good.

The USA created the monsters of:
Saddam,
Osama Bin Laden,
Iran -

and then their monsters turned on them.

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Re: Trump agrees to a 2 week cease fire:
Reply #44 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:42am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 7:21am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 8th, 2026 at 6:42pm:
Arse backwards as usual - Trump PROPOSED a two week ceasefire -Iran surrendered to it ninety minutes before strikes began.... of course Trump accepted their agreement....

The Strait is open - but missiles are still being fired at Israel (exchanged said the tame Novosti - can't wait for the ABC spin on this one) ... no deal over what the other states ATTACKED by Iran will do.... Iran fires at them - they fire back....  Trump - unlike the Ayatollah and his henchmen - is not a dictator .... though Iran's dictators would love to extend their rule to all other countries.... get with the program.

Trump has grabbed them by the pussy.


Has he?

Let’s drop the slogans and compare like-for-like, because the mythology you’re repeating collapses the moment it’s put next to reality.

Under Obama:

- Strait of Hormuz open, freely navigable
- Iran caps uranium enrichment
- Iran commits to no nuclear weapons
- Full access granted to International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors
- Compliance verified
- Iranian assets unfrozen, diplomacy functioning
- No war crimes committed or threatened by the US
- Zero Americans killed
- Zero Iranians killed
- Zero bombs dropped
- Zero dollars burned on war
- Zero threats about wiping out civilisations

Under Trump:

- Strait of Hormuz closed, only opened with a $1 per barrel toll, ~$2 million per ship, although reports show it's closed again because Israel continued its attack on Lebanon after the US/Iran cease fire.
- Iran makes no guarantees of limiting uranium enrichment
- Iran makes no guarantees of no nuclear weapons
- Iran makes no guarantees to allow international inspectors
- Open talk of the US committing war crimes and civilisation-ending escalation
- Failed regime change with a more hardline and nuclear-seeking replacement leader
- 15 American casualties, 700+ wounded
- Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians dead or injured
- Thousands of bombs dropped
- $45+ Billion in taxpayer money incinerated
- Regional conflict expanding across multiple countries
- Sanctions lifted on Iranian oil and the toll on ships that are allowed to pass through the strait means Iran is looking at an additional $140 billion per year.
- Global oil supply destabilised

Let's look back on the timeline.  On the eve of conflict, Iran was signalling willingness to:

- Cap enrichment below weapons-grade
- Dilute or pause higher-enriched stockpiles
- Reduce or export uranium reserves
- Expand IAEA oversight, potentially back to intrusive levels

UK intermediaries described this as “significant” and said a deal was “within reach”.

Then Trump engages with Benjamin Netanyahu and, almost immediately after, we get escalation instead of a resolution, and Operation Epic Fury begins.

The timeline isn’t complicated:

- Negotiations showing movement
- Israel panics that their forever justification to attack Iran was about to be off the table again as it was under Obama
- US-Israel alignment intensifies
- Strikes follow
- Diplomacy collapses

So much for the “master dealmaker”.  His strings were pulled and he danced.

That’s not winning or strength. That’s failure.

A typical Trump deal, it's worse than if he'd done nothing, spun as an amazing victory because his name is signed on it with a Sharpie.

And in the end, Trump has adopted Iran's 10-point plan as the starting point for negotiations, saying it was a "workable basis on which to negotiate".

THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS WASTE, DEATH AND GLOBAL INSTABILITY!?

Trump is the first President in US history to fail to stand up to Israel's demands to go to war with Iran.

He's a weak little bitch, OR, was blackmailed into it because he raped a bunch of children, pick your poison MAGA.

In what world has Trump achieved anything but failure?

The US is worse off for his actions, the world is worse off for his actions.  All he had to do was NOTHING.

NOTHING, and we'd have everything Obama had achieved, without the death and destruction, the loss of lives, the billions in US taxpayer money wasted and without depleting the US defence capabilities, and Iran would be $138.6 Billion poorer. 

Yeah, remember how the $1.4b of their funds that Obama was unfreezing as part of the deal that we were told was going to fund terrorism and meant the deal had to be scrapped?

Trump has set them up to earn 100x that, PER YEAR while baking in increased oil prices.

How are you MAGA idiots celebrating this?

Are you retarded!?


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