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Reply #285 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:11pm
 
A dreadful consequence of assymetrical warfare.

The jihadi enemy does not observe any rules of engagement, any ethics, any honourable conduct.

And so we punish and hound our own who make a judgement in the field to eliminate such a vermin of an enemy.


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Reply #286 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
A dreadful consequence of assymetrical warfare.

The jihadi enemy does not observe any rules of engagement, any ethics, any honourable conduct.

And so we punish and hound our own who make a judgement in the field to eliminate such a vermin of an enemy.




Unarmed people with their hands tied behind their backs?

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Reply #287 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:22pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
A dreadful consequence of assymetrical warfare.

The jihadi enemy does not observe any rules of engagement, any ethics, any honourable conduct.

And so we punish and hound our own who make a judgement in the field to eliminate such a vermin of an enemy.




Unarmed people with their hands tied behind their backs?


You dont know, lying creep. You just read newspapers, ya dreadful little prick. You have never been in combat, you know *uck all besides being a despicable, lying, repulsive troll and mindless rock music.

And so that's what you do every day - talk shite. Disgisting.


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Reply #288 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:36pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:22pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
A dreadful consequence of assymetrical warfare.

The jihadi enemy does not observe any rules of engagement, any ethics, any honourable conduct.

And so we punish and hound our own who make a judgement in the field to eliminate such a vermin of an enemy.




Unarmed people with their hands tied behind their backs?


You dont know, lying creep. You just read newspapers ...


No, I've read the charging documents.

He's charged with murdering an unarmed person who had their hands tied behind their backs.

I only deal in objective facts.

You?
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Reply #289 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:36pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:22pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
A dreadful consequence of assymetrical warfare.

The jihadi enemy does not observe any rules of engagement, any ethics, any honourable conduct.

And so we punish and hound our own who make a judgement in the field to eliminate such a vermin of an enemy.




Unarmed people with their hands tied behind their backs?


You dont know, lying creep. You just read newspapers ...


No, I've read the charging documents.

He's charged with murdering an unarmed person who had their hands tied behind their backs.

I only deal in objective facts.

You?


Newspaper accusations - accusations of any kind - are not 'objective facts', creepy, skin-crawling liar.

Your record of peddling lies, creepy accusations, distortins and despicable slanders is unequalled.


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Reply #290 - Apr 26th, 2026 at 10:20pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:36pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:22pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
A dreadful consequence of assymetrical warfare.

The jihadi enemy does not observe any rules of engagement, any ethics, any honourable conduct.

And so we punish and hound our own who make a judgement in the field to eliminate such a vermin of an enemy.




Unarmed people with their hands tied behind their backs?


You dont know, lying creep. You just read newspapers ...


No, I've read the charging documents.

He's charged with murdering an unarmed person who had their hands tied behind their backs.

I only deal in objective facts.

You?


Newspaper accusations - accusations of any kind - are not 'objective facts', ...


Nobody is talking about newspapers.

The official law enforcement/court charging documents allege that he murdered an unarmed person who had their hands tied behind their backs.

What part of this don't you understand?
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Reply #291 - Apr 27th, 2026 at 8:48pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:14pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:02pm:
It is, of course, a rather stupid law, but then Australia has many stupid and unjustifiable laws.

So, you're saying the Commonwealth should/must subject an otherwise innocent Australian to a life-destroying ordeal by enforcing a stupid and unjustifiable law.

BTW, Command responsibility applies when a superior fails to prevent or punish crimes committed by their subordinates, provided the superior had effective control over the subordinate and knew, or should have known, that a crime was being committed or was about to be committed.

That’s the Achille’s heal, ‘’or should have known’’, how exactly would this be applied?

Your earlier example of a soldier going AWOL and then committing murder is irrelevant as 1). The soldier is no longer under effective military command and 2). such a murder would fall under civil jurisdiction, it would nor be a war crime.
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Reply #292 - Apr 27th, 2026 at 9:07pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 27th, 2026 at 8:48pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:14pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:02pm:
It is, of course, a rather stupid law, but then Australia has many stupid and unjustifiable laws.

So, you're saying the Commonwealth should/must subject an otherwise innocent Australian to a life-destroying ordeal by enforcing a stupid and unjustifiable law.

BTW, Command responsibility applies when a superior fails to prevent or punish crimes committed by their subordinates, provided the superior had effective control over the subordinate and knew, or should have known, that a crime was being committed or was about to be committed.

That’s the Achille’s heal, ‘’or should have known’’, how exactly would this be applied?

Your earlier example of a soldier going AWOL and then committing murder is irrelevant as 1). The soldier is no longer under effective military command and 2). such a murder would fall under civil jurisdiction, it would nor be a war crime.

The 'should have known' standard (also known as constructive knowledge) in command responsibility holds a military commander or superior criminally liable for crimes committed by subordinates if they failed to properly supervise their forces, leading to an ignorance that is considered criminally negligent.

The test does not require proof of actual knowledge, but rather that the commander had alarming information that should have led them to act.
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Reply #293 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 12:01am
 
If i get jury duty for this Ben will walk free.

Just about everyone i know will do the same if they get jury duty.
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Reply #294 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 9:57am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 28th, 2026 at 12:01am:
If i get jury duty for this Ben will walk free.

Just about everyone i know will do the same if they get jury duty.


Same here.... this is madness... I note that the new 'Army Chief' "served' in Afghanistan - was this part of the Dubai Party clique who occasionally visited?

I've posted on Farcebook the simple truth that long ago when the Brereton Report came out I read its evidence (got a heap of laughing faces - morons) - and saw no single incident against BRS where there was a direct witness...  WADR to all past and serving members.  That is why he is so happy to see this trial go ahead... you can't do an assumption in a real court - though I've actually witnessed a 'magistrate' get around that by saying - "It's all circmstantial, but... guilty."

When they want to lie they lie, our courts... it's a hand-me-down from our old convicts with no rights/guards with more rights - class war to the max and it persists to this day, primarily STILL against the 'Aussie' type.

Now we have the spectre of a report that came out on A Current Affair last night.....

https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/couple-claims-theyve-been-wrongly-put-...

Anyone remember - from my first book - where I said that those who posted negative views in the 'law reform commission' over the PLAN (not the principle) for the introduction of 'domestic violence laws', and pointed out the clear failings, illegalities, and future potential for perversion - were - within a year of so, handed totally spurious demands to go to court to defend something such - in a totally stacked court - and were even persecuted while going about their legitimate business as the non-criminals they are, false arrest and so forth?

So this couple seem to have tried to do the right thing - and have been persecuted by an almost shadowy 'police intelligence unit' as a result.... this will be a very interesting case.

Now we have certain reflections from this BRS farce....... including betrayal by past 'mates ... go for 'em, Ben!!

Note - the new sheila 'Army chief' - what else can we expect from AlboGroup? ... is said to have been:-  "former commander of Task Group Afghanistan" ...an adminstrative position, of course.... probably based in Dubai with the occasional fly-in, while LtCs were likely the highest ranks actually on the ground... and cerainly possibly only Majors in combat roles.... and it appears even then not Direct Combat.... unlike - say the Canadians, Brits and Yanks.

"Based on available reports regarding Australian operations in Afghanistan, the highest rank frequently involved in direct, frontline combat—including leading patrols and engaging enemy forces during special operations—was that of a Corporal. "

"While senior officers (Colonels and above) were in theatre commanding the broader mission, direct frontline combat was led by senior non-commissioned officers and junior officers."

I said that Young Hastie (Captain SASR = 2nd Lt) was 5000 feet above the action in a chopper during the action when The Hand (Thing) came onboard.... shocking him to tears....
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Reply #295 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 10:24am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 27th, 2026 at 9:07pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 27th, 2026 at 8:48pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:14pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:02pm:
It is, of course, a rather stupid law, but then Australia has many stupid and unjustifiable laws.

So, you're saying the Commonwealth should/must subject an otherwise innocent Australian to a life-destroying ordeal by enforcing a stupid and unjustifiable law.

BTW, Command responsibility applies when a superior fails to prevent or punish crimes committed by their subordinates, provided the superior had effective control over the subordinate and knew, or should have known, that a crime was being committed or was about to be committed.

That’s the Achille’s heal, ‘’or should have known’’, how exactly would this be applied?

Your earlier example of a soldier going AWOL and then committing murder is irrelevant as 1). The soldier is no longer under effective military command and 2). such a murder would fall under civil jurisdiction, it would nor be a war crime.

The 'should have known' standard (also known as constructive knowledge) in command responsibility holds a military commander or superior criminally liable for crimes committed by subordinates if they failed to properly supervise their forces, leading to an ignorance that is considered criminally negligent.

The test does not require proof of actual knowledge, but rather that the commander had alarming information that should have led them to act.

As I said ‘’the Achilles- heel’’.
Did Andrew Hastie tell his CO of his suspicions regarding Roberts Smith?
If he didn’t then he was derelict in his duty and should be charged.
Surely his own evidence shows that he had ‘’alarming information’’.
The SAS is alleged to have murdered 39 Afghans, are we to believe that this escaped the knowledge/suspicions of all superior Officers?
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Reply #296 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 5:00pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 28th, 2026 at 12:01am:
If i get jury duty for this Ben will walk free.

Just about everyone i know will do the same if they get jury duty.

Patriots march through Melbourne in support of war hero Ben Roberts-Smith


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April 26, 2026
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Hundreds of patriotic protesters have marched through Melbourne’s CBD to show their support for SAS hero Ben Roberts-Smith as he fights war crimes charges.

The demonstration, organised by nationalist community group the National Workers Alliance (NWA), started at 12 pm and included a march with a banner reading “Ben Roberts-Smith VC, warrior not criminal”.

Many attendees wore medals and carried Australian flags, while others held placards and signs saying “warrior not criminal”, “bravery and betrayal” and
“stop the witch-hunt”, and wore T-shirts saying “We stand with Ben Roberts-Smith”.

A small group of Antifa ratbags tried to gatecrash the rally but were heavily outnumbered and forced to stand at a distance where they shouted anti-Australian anti-veteran slogans, including “death, death to the ADF”.

The far-left extremist ratbags also yelled “always was, always will be aboriginal land” while the Ben Roberts-Smith supporters held a minute of silence in remembrance of fallen Australian soldiers.

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Reply #297 - Apr 28th, 2026 at 6:29pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 28th, 2026 at 10:24am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 27th, 2026 at 9:07pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 27th, 2026 at 8:48pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:14pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 26th, 2026 at 6:02pm:
It is, of course, a rather stupid law, but then Australia has many stupid and unjustifiable laws.

So, you're saying the Commonwealth should/must subject an otherwise innocent Australian to a life-destroying ordeal by enforcing a stupid and unjustifiable law.

BTW, Command responsibility applies when a superior fails to prevent or punish crimes committed by their subordinates, provided the superior had effective control over the subordinate and knew, or should have known, that a crime was being committed or was about to be committed.

That’s the Achille’s heal, ‘’or should have known’’, how exactly would this be applied?

Your earlier example of a soldier going AWOL and then committing murder is irrelevant as 1). The soldier is no longer under effective military command and 2). such a murder would fall under civil jurisdiction, it would nor be a war crime.

The 'should have known' standard (also known as constructive knowledge) in command responsibility holds a military commander or superior criminally liable for crimes committed by subordinates if they failed to properly supervise their forces, leading to an ignorance that is considered criminally negligent.

The test does not require proof of actual knowledge, but rather that the commander had alarming information that should have led them to act.

As I said ‘’the Achilles- heel’’.
Did Andrew Hastie tell his CO of his suspicions regarding Roberts Smith?
If he didn’t then he was derelict in his duty and should be charged.
Surely his own evidence shows that he had ‘’alarming information’’.
The SAS is alleged to have murdered 39 Afghans, are we to believe that this escaped the knowledge/suspicions of all superior Officers?

Yes, you have a point.

We may only be at the end of the beginning of this.
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Reply #298 - Apr 29th, 2026 at 8:38pm
 
Australian authorities came close to charging Australian Special Forces soldiers with war crimes simply for firing WARNING SHOTS at Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan.

Retired Australian Special Forces Major @HestonRussell revealed to @karlstefanovic that Australian Special Forces soldiers were investigated over their practice of firing warning shots at insurgents - a practice legal under US engagement rules but illegal under Australian law.

While working alongside US forces who were authorised to fire warning shots, Australian Special Forces developed an informal understanding that firing near a fleeing insurgent would cause them to stop and allow capture - Australian forces adopted this tactic to reduce lethality because they were otherwise lawfully authorised to kill fleeing insurgents.

Russell says that Major General Brereton - the lawyer who led the war crimes investigations into Australian soldiers - told him that his command decision to allow warning shots "had opened every single one'' of the Australian soldiers under his command to being prosecuted for war crimes.

Countless Australian soldiers committed suicide under pressure from the Brereton Inquiry.
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