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Re: Ben arrested
Reply #225 - Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:45pm

The enemy:

Hekmatullah, the rogue Afghan soldier who killed three unarmed Australian diggers in Afghanistan a decade ago, is living in a luxury home in the capital Kabul, treated as a “returning hero” by the Taliban who released him from prison.

He has said he does not regret killing Australian soldiers, and has vowed he would again kill Australians, or anyone who opposes the Taliban.

“If I am released I will continue killing foreigners,” Hekmatullah told an official of the former Afghan government when his release was being negotiated.

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Reply #226 - Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:39pm:

Frank:

Are other countries allowed to murder a disabled detainee, kick a handcuffed prisoner off a cliff, order rookie soldiers to execute others in an initiation practice called 'blooding', and plant items on the alleged victims to cover-up misconduct, or are these war crimes restricted to Australian soldiers only?

Frank?

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Reply #227 - Apr 18^th, 2026 at 9:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:39pm:

Frank:

Are other countries allowed to murder a disabled detainee, kick a handcuffed prisoner off a cliff, order rookie soldiers to execute others in an initiation practice called 'blooding', and plant items on the alleged victims to cover-up misconduct, or are these war crimes restricted to Australian soldiers only?

Maybe he went rogue like colonel Kurtz?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20630 Gender:	Re: Ben arrested Reply #228 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 12:10pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 7:19pm: I didn't say they were, only that there could be - e.g. high-level identities taking up the cause of the alleged murdered's relatives or clan... or even the nation-state itself wanting justice for its citizens being seen to be done. Then they would not be witnesses.
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Reply #229 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 12:23pm

lee wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 12:10pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 7:19pm:

I didn't say they were, only that there could be - e.g. high-level identities taking up the cause of the alleged murdered's relatives or clan... or even the nation-state itself wanting justice for its citizens being seen to be done.

Then they would not be witnesses.

But possible advocates for witnesses.

It's more than likely that there is an international component to this.

The unnecessarily maximally visible and dramatic arrest of BRS was likely not for Australian eyes. His arrest was clear and obvious via video footage, even with the sound turned down (i.e. no translation required).

Of course, BRS only has himself to blame for any international pressure. His decision to sue for defamation resulted in an Australian court finding that he probably committed murder(s).

From an international perspective, what else should result from an Australian court finding an Australian probably committed murder(s) if not the case being taken up by a higher court to determine if his guilt is beyond a reasonable doubt?

The arrest of BRS has absolved the Australian government of international accusations of ignoring or disregarding possible injustice meted out to Afghan citizens.

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Reply #230 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 1:42pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 12:23pm:

But possible advocates for witnesses.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 4:32pm:

Secondly, if a state actor (e.g. Afghanistan or another nation) has evidence or witnesses against BRS, this would be an international red flag to the Australian government if it declined to prosecute.

Advocates are not witnesses.

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Reply #231 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:07pm

lee wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 1:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 12:23pm:

But possible advocates for witnesses.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 4:32pm:

Secondly, if a state actor (e.g. Afghanistan or another nation) has evidence or witnesses against BRS, this would be an international red flag to the Australian government if it declined to prosecute.

Advocates are not witnesses.

When the advocate represents a state actor/nation-state you have the certainty of political pressure on the Australian government to act.

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Reply #232 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:14pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:07pm:

When the advocate represents a state actor/nation-state you have the certainty of political pressure on the Australian government to act.

Not necessarily. The thing is; the process has begun. There is no more pressure other than to follow the rule of law. Unless the government wants to bow down to them.

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Reply #233 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:19pm

lee wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:14pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:07pm:

When the advocate represents a state actor/nation-state you have the certainty of political pressure on the Australian government to act.

Not necessarily. The thing is; the process has begun. There is no more pressure other than to follow the rule of law. Unless the government wants to bow down to them.

The Australian government has likely already submitted to international political pressure by the Hollywood-style arrest of BRS. It has now absolved itself of any further action as the case is now before the courts.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20630 Gender:	Re: Ben arrested Reply #234 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:21pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:19pm: The Australian government has likely already submitted to international political pressure by the Hollywood-style arrest of BRS. A more likely scenario was to take Albo off the front page to give him a break.
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Reply #235 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:25pm

lee wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 2:19pm:

The Australian government has likely already submitted to international political pressure by the Hollywood-style arrest of BRS.

A more likely scenario was to take Albo off the front page to give him a break.

Yep, it’s possible… although both scenarios can coexist.

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Reply #237 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:39pm:

Frank:

Are other countries allowed to murder a disabled detainee, kick a handcuffed prisoner off a cliff, order rookie soldiers to execute others in an initiation practice called 'blooding', and plant items on the alleged victims to cover-up misconduct, or are these war crimes restricted to Australian soldiers only?

Frank?

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Reply #238 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:39pm:

Frank:

Are other countries allowed to murder a disabled detainee, kick a handcuffed prisoner off a cliff, order rookie soldiers to execute others in an initiation practice called 'blooding', and plant items on the alleged victims to cover-up misconduct, or are these war crimes restricted to Australian soldiers only?

Frank?

Just be frank Frank.

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Re: Ben arrested
Reply #239 - Apr 19^th, 2026 at 9:50pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 19^th, 2026 at 8:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2026 at 8:39pm:

Frank:

Are other countries allowed to murder a disabled detainee, kick a handcuffed prisoner off a cliff, order rookie soldiers to execute others in an initiation practice called 'blooding', and plant items on the alleged victims to cover-up misconduct, or are these war crimes restricted to Australian soldiers only?

Frank?

Just be frank Frank.

The Taliban, Afghanistan, the Third World generally are NOT equal to Australia, to the ADF, SAS.

It is ridiculous and dangerous to treat them as equals.

They are not equal on any measure.

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