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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3252 Gender:	Re: Ben arrested Reply #135 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 2:46pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 9:37pm: He should be out on bail on own recognisance - he's not going to bolt. Most intelligent comment yet in this thread.
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Reply #136 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 2:55pm

chimera wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 8:36pm:

So..
does that mean you don't find fault with my replies?

Personally I and my cat ( I read your replies out loud to her and she seems to both take notice and show no offence) find your point of view interesting.

Valid? I can’t say, it’s a lot to consider and the personal snide attacks against your /our opinion doesn’t help us understand your/our position any deeper.

Regardless if our mutual understanding of the situation is interrupted differently i find your contribution interesting.

If must resort to personal insults can we please make a effort for high quality content that hasn’t been used before?

“ why doesn’t Ben ( war Criminal) smith bend over in the prison shower to pick up his soup?

Because everyone else in there with him Volunteering do it for him”

“ too early ?

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After weeks of poor press regarding Albo ( and Scomo) poor management of fuel reserves and desperate for a major distraction.
Federal Police arrest Ben ( war criminal) Smith.
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Reply #137 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 3:25pm

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 1:18pm:

There is no evidence as yet presented, under criminal law, about another Afghan being killed

OK I took that as evidence within criminal law by media, government statement and so on. You meant in a criminal court case. And you are correct.

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 1:18pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 8:26pm:

You write as if the gunman shooting trainers is fact and it had real connection with the POW being killed as a fact.

No the gunman shooting trainers is fact. There is no suggestion of any connection to POW's being killed.

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Reply #99 - Yesterday at 4:05pmQuote chimera wrote Yesterday at 3:25pm:
What Afghans do in Afghanistan is irrelevant.

lee 'Wow. Including turning on the soldiers they had training them. You really are a dolt.'

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Reply #138 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 3:35pm

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 2:55pm:

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Personally I and my cat ( I read your replies out loud to her and she seems to both take notice and show no offence) find your point of view interesting.

I think of a parallel in WWII.
'The Lidice massacre was a brutal June 10, 1942, Nazi reprisal in the Czech Republic, where German forces destroyed the village, murdered 173 men, and deported women and children to concentration camps. Sparked by the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, the annihilation was a retaliatory act for the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, a high-ranking Nazi official'.

The acts by resistance, unlawful combatants, spies and so on, can't lawfully be linked with punishment against another person.

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Reply #139 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:00pm

This is the thing and I’m careful what I say.

There are no rules in war or combat situations.

The only thing close to what may be considered a “ law” in a combat situation are orders and tasks requested off you.

That’s as clean as I can describe it.

You do as your told.

It maybe wrong, it’s often evil but you do your task till you can physically no longer do it anymore.

Rules?

They didn’t exist in the jungle and I doubt they existed in the desert.

What does exist above all else is company culture, structure and respect for the command structure/ rank.

It’s my personal opinion that the company culture, structure was the worse seen by any Australian fighting force in decades.

The Ben ( war Criminal) smith is being held for others failing at several higher rank.

How many others drunk beer out of the dead Afghan artificial leg?

I suspect those that didn’t may have turned undisciplined eye while in the role of enforcement of discipline?

Anyone got photos that they can post of Australia war veterans and their transport proudly displayed the Nazi flag while on tour in Afghan?

Does that make anyone here proud?

Because what you are seeing is what was once an elite Australian unit being led by completely useless/ stupid/ idiotic officers.

It’s no doubt we lost the war under the command and leadership of those far higher up than corporal Ben ( war Criminal) smith.

I will not answer questions on what my experience may or not be.

I share enough and ask you respect my privacy.

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Reply #140 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:10pm

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 3:25pm:

OK I took that as evidence within criminal law by media, government statement and so on.

Criminal law by media? Government statement? Grin

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 3:25pm:

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Reply #99 - Yesterday at 4:05pmQuote chimera wrote Yesterday at 3:25pm:
What Afghans do in Afghanistan is irrelevant.

lee 'Wow. Including turning on the soldiers they had training them. You really are a dolt.'

Absolutely nothing there about POW's. Dolt. You are really killing your "case". Grin

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3252 Gender:	Re: Ben arrested Reply #141 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:10pm I will add. There was a command structure of rotating each commander out and having them replaced. The primary purpose of this was because the commander was so incredibly stupid / useless he required retraining every six or so months.
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Reply #142 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:11pm

Again, that may be true but dodgy leadership can't be used to change what is law. It's common knowledge that ADF, the diggers of Anzac, don't shoot prisoners. They don't torture, don't take out anger by beating up captives and do give first aid to enemies even while still in their trench after surrender.

The background may reduce jail-time (if any) but it can't change the law on murder. Kids know what murder is.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20665 Gender:	Re: Ben arrested Reply #143 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:14pm On another note it seems members of the AFP are also not on board with the method of arrest of Roberts-Smith. Also the head honcho's many participation medals as compared to his.
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Reply #144 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:16pm

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:10pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 3:25pm:

OK I took that as evidence within criminal law by media, government statement and so on.

Criminal law by media? Government statement?

No, I wrote 'within criminal law'. 'Criminal law' is not identical with 'criminal trial'. Media and govt have comments about law. Ozpol also does.
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lee 'Wow. Including turning on the soldiers they had training them. You really are a dolt.'

lee 'Absolutely nothing there about POW's.'

It was a reply about the background to the killing of the captive.
Obviously. If you can't focus on that, then I'm not surprised...

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Reply #145 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:24pm

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:16pm:

No, I wrote 'within criminal law'. 'Criminal law' is not identical with 'criminal trial'. Media and govt have comments about law. Ozpol also does.

And what is the consensus of opinion on that "crimininal law" about Roberts-Smith? Quotes please, not from Ozpol, most here wouldn't know the difference. Wink

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:16pm:

It was a reply about the background to the killing of the captive.

Nope. It was a comment on the killing in the internalcompound attack. Nothing to link them, except your fevered "brain". Cool

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Reply #146 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:34pm

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:24pm:

And what is the consensus of opinion on that "crimininal law" about Roberts-Smith?

The consensus is that he's arrested for trial. Any further questions?
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chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:16pm:

It was a reply about the background to the killing of the captive.

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:24pm:

Nope. It was a comment on the killing in the internal compound attack. Nothing to link them, except your fevered "brain".

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Reply #95 - Yesterday at 3:25pmQuote Gnads wrote Yesterday at 3:06pm:
Because I'm incensed at BRSs treatment and this ongoing 10 year witch hunt against our most decorated soldier.

chimera: 'What Afghans do in Afghanistan is irrelevant.
Being highly decorated is irrelevant.'

remember that?

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Reply #147 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:40pm

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:34pm:

The consensus is that he's arrested for trial. Any further questions?

very good.Has any evidence been led about and tested about the breaking of "criminal" law?

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:34pm:

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Reply #95 - Yesterday at 3:25pmQuote Gnads wrote Yesterday at 3:06pm:
Because I'm incensed at BRSs treatment and this ongoing 10 year witch hunt against our most decorated soldier.

chimera: 'What Afghans do in Afghanistan is irrelevant.
Being highly decorated is irrelevant.'

remember that?

And that is not from me. So you are trying to put words in my mouth that were never uttered by me. You are a complete shonk. A failure. An idiot. Roll Eyes

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Reply #148 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 5:02pm

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:11pm:

Again, that may be true but dodgy leadership can't be used to change what is law. It's common knowledge that ADF, the diggers of Anzac, don't shoot prisoners. They don't torture, don't take out anger by beating up captives and do give first aid to enemies even while still in their trench after surrender.

The background may reduce jail-time (if any) but it can't change the law on murder. Kids know what murder is.

Oh dear.

The Gallipoli Turkey female sniper on the slopes of Gallipoli early in the utter defeat of Australian ( I must mention the complete destruction of the English forces on landing, casualties far greater than Australia) was mentioned in war reports.
She caused maximum casualties from a position of no retreat. As the report states she was knocked unconscious by a grenade .

On regaining consciousness she found herself in the same position only with her arms and legs spread eagle and tied to imbedded bayonet.

She was used often as Australian troops went forward to reward their sexual needs.

She was eventually shot dead out of hand by a private who gave pity on her.

There are no rules in war.

It matters nothing life.

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Reply #149 - Apr 11^th, 2026 at 5:06pm

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:40pm:

Has any evidence been led about and tested about the breaking of "criminal" law?

No that's why he's on trial.....

chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2026 at 4:34pm:

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Reply #95 - Yesterday at 3:25pmQuote Gnads wrote Yesterday at 3:06pm:
Because I'm incensed at BRSs treatment and this ongoing 10 year witch hunt against our most decorated soldier.

chimera: 'What Afghans do in Afghanistan is irrelevant.
Being highly decorated is irrelevant.'

Obviously you didn't write words by another person. It's what you were replying to. Your name is lee. In Ozpol.
It's Saturday.

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