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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #15 - Apr 8^th, 2026 at 8:03am

I lost a mate from TAFE back in the 70s to a lathe.
He had too much rod hanging outvthe back of the lathe which eas unsupported.
You should never do this, but he was an apprentice and cut corners bu not cutting off the amout he needed.
He was hit bu thevrod as it bent and spun around smashing into his skull.
It took him months to pass, i keep a small Garfield toy to remind me of him to this day.
Our entire year at TAFE were made aware of the dangers in our trade.
We were never allowed to visit him in hospital.

If you dont know tools.
Learn them, know the dangers and respect the fact that they have ZERO COMPASSION.

I used to lecture my employees almost monthly, after every incident or near miss.
Some listened, some didnt.

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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #16 - Apr 8^th, 2026 at 7:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2026 at 7:32am:

Thanks Valkie for that.

I remember at work once I wanted to use the large 3 phase lathe
to make something for home use.
OH&S rules said that only a qualified fitter and turner could use it
which I'm not - so it probably saved me from being injured -
lathes are not forgiving of any errors.

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2026 at 8:03am:

I lost a mate from TAFE back in the 70s to a lathe.
He had too much rod hanging outvthe back of the lathe which eas unsupported.
You should never do this, but he was an apprentice and cut corners bu not cutting off the amout he needed.
He was hit bu thevrod as it bent and spun around smashing into his skull.
It took him months to pass, i keep a small Garfield toy to remind me of him to this day.
Our entire year at TAFE were made aware of the dangers in our trade.
We were never allowed to visit him in hospital.

If you dont know tools.
Learn them, know the dangers and respect the fact that they have ZERO COMPASSION.

I used to lecture my employees almost monthly, after every incident or near miss.
Some listened, some didnt.

Lathes are very dangerous machines.

I have never used one and I suppose I never will.

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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #17 - Apr 9^th, 2026 at 6:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2026 at 7:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2026 at 7:32am:

Thanks Valkie for that.

I remember at work once I wanted to use the large 3 phase lathe
to make something for home use.
OH&S rules said that only a qualified fitter and turner could use it
which I'm not - so it probably saved me from being injured -
lathes are not forgiving of any errors.

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2026 at 8:03am:

I lost a mate from TAFE back in the 70s to a lathe.
He had too much rod hanging outvthe back of the lathe which eas unsupported.
You should never do this, but he was an apprentice and cut corners bu not cutting off the amout he needed.
He was hit bu thevrod as it bent and spun around smashing into his skull.
It took him months to pass, i keep a small Garfield toy to remind me of him to this day.
Our entire year at TAFE were made aware of the dangers in our trade.
We were never allowed to visit him in hospital.

If you dont know tools.
Learn them, know the dangers and respect the fact that they have ZERO COMPASSION.

I used to lecture my employees almost monthly, after every incident or near miss.
Some listened, some didnt.

Lathes are very dangerous machines.

I have never used one and I suppose I never will.

Honestly,
All tools are DANGEROOUS if used incorrectly or without sufficient knowledge.
I have used every type of metal machining tool that was manufactured up until the 1980s.
I give them the respect they deserve.
They have no compassion nor consideration for humans.
They will bite, crush and remove limbs with absolutely zero conscience.

As an apprentice, I was taught to ask if I didn't know
Stop if I was unsure and refuse if I thought something was DANGEROOUS.

But.......
Used correctly, tools are wonderful things.
They make jobs easier and sometimes impossible without them.
They are what the human race excels in, we have been using tools since we climbed down from the trees.
I wouldn't be without my collection of power tools, air tools and cordless tools.
Many I use every week, some rarely, but which are invaluable when needed.

And one very important and often neglected part of tool used must be mentioned.
Maintenance of the tool, it's attachments and associated cutting tools is critical.
A blunt tool, is a DANGEROOUS tool.
Just as a blunt knife cuts more people than a sharp one.

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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #18 - Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:04pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 6:46pm:

Honestly,
All tools are DANGEROUS if used incorrectly or without sufficient knowledge.
I have used every type of metal machining tool that was manufactured up until the 1980s.
I give them the respect they deserve.
They have no compassion nor consideration for humans.
They will bite, crush and remove limbs with absolutely zero conscience.

As an apprentice, I was taught to ask if I didn't know
Stop if I was unsure and refuse if I thought something was DANGEROOUS.

But.......
Used correctly, tools are wonderful things.
They make jobs easier and sometimes impossible without them.
They are what the human race excels in, we have been using tools since we climbed down from the trees.
I wouldn't be without my collection of power tools, air tools and cordless tools.
Many I use every week, some rarely, but which are invaluable when needed.

And one very important and often neglected part of tool used must be mentioned.
Maintenance of the tool, it's attachments and associated cutting tools is critical.
A blunt tool, is a DANGEROOUS tool.
Just as a blunt knife cuts more people than a sharp one.

OH&S -

People need to do a - JHA - Job Hazard Analysis -
before using any new tool.

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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #19 - Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 6:46pm:

Honestly,
All tools are DANGEROUS if used incorrectly or without sufficient knowledge.
I have used every type of metal machining tool that was manufactured up until the 1980s.
I give them the respect they deserve.
They have no compassion nor consideration for humans.
They will bite, crush and remove limbs with absolutely zero conscience.

As an apprentice, I was taught to ask if I didn't know
Stop if I was unsure and refuse if I thought something was DANGEROOUS.

But.......
Used correctly, tools are wonderful things.
They make jobs easier and sometimes impossible without them.
They are what the human race excels in, we have been using tools since we climbed down from the trees.
I wouldn't be without my collection of power tools, air tools and cordless tools.
Many I use every week, some rarely, but which are invaluable when needed.

And one very important and often neglected part of tool used must be mentioned.
Maintenance of the tool, it's attachments and associated cutting tools is critical.
A blunt tool, is a DANGEROOUS tool.
Just as a blunt knife cuts more people than a sharp one.

OH&S -

People need to do a - JHA - Job Hazard Analysis -
before using any new tool.

Have you had any new tools recently, Bobby?

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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #21 - Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 6:46pm:

Honestly,
All tools are DANGEROUS if used incorrectly or without sufficient knowledge.
I have used every type of metal machining tool that was manufactured up until the 1980s.
I give them the respect they deserve.
They have no compassion nor consideration for humans.
They will bite, crush and remove limbs with absolutely zero conscience.

As an apprentice, I was taught to ask if I didn't know
Stop if I was unsure and refuse if I thought something was DANGEROOUS.

But.......
Used correctly, tools are wonderful things.
They make jobs easier and sometimes impossible without them.
They are what the human race excels in, we have been using tools since we climbed down from the trees.
I wouldn't be without my collection of power tools, air tools and cordless tools.
Many I use every week, some rarely, but which are invaluable when needed.

And one very important and often neglected part of tool used must be mentioned.
Maintenance of the tool, it's attachments and associated cutting tools is critical.
A blunt tool, is a DANGEROOUS tool.
Just as a blunt knife cuts more people than a sharp one.

OH&S -

People need to do a - JHA - Job Hazard Analysis -
before using any new tool.

Have you had any new tools recently, Bobby?

yes - the last 6 months:

an oscillating saw,
a multi tool,
and a Dremel type tool.

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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #22 - Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 6:46pm:

Honestly,
All tools are DANGEROUS if used incorrectly or without sufficient knowledge.
I have used every type of metal machining tool that was manufactured up until the 1980s.
I give them the respect they deserve.
They have no compassion nor consideration for humans.
They will bite, crush and remove limbs with absolutely zero conscience.

As an apprentice, I was taught to ask if I didn't know
Stop if I was unsure and refuse if I thought something was DANGEROOUS.

But.......
Used correctly, tools are wonderful things.
They make jobs easier and sometimes impossible without them.
They are what the human race excels in, we have been using tools since we climbed down from the trees.
I wouldn't be without my collection of power tools, air tools and cordless tools.
Many I use every week, some rarely, but which are invaluable when needed.

And one very important and often neglected part of tool used must be mentioned.
Maintenance of the tool, it's attachments and associated cutting tools is critical.
A blunt tool, is a DANGEROOUS tool.
Just as a blunt knife cuts more people than a sharp one.

OH&S -

People need to do a - JHA - Job Hazard Analysis -
before using any new tool.

Have you had any new tools recently, Bobby?

yes - the last 6 months:

an oscillating saw,
a multi tool,
and a Dremel type tool.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41589 Gender:	Re: Chainsaw Reply #24 - Apr 9^th, 2026 at 10:40pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:23pm: yes - the last 6 months: an oscillating saw, a multi tool, and a Dremel type tool. dremels are really good. best small dc motors around i've used a few and have a much used dremel electric screwdriver downstairs . it's a bit broken now
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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #25 - Apr 10^th, 2026 at 9:44am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 10:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2026 at 8:23pm:

yes - the last 6 months:

an oscillating saw,
a multi tool,
and a Dremel type tool.

dremels are really good. best small dc motors around

i've used a few and have a much used dremel electric screwdriver downstairs . it's a bit broken now

I bought the Ozito equilivent.
Works well for me, i find with this type of tool its more about the actual tool bits than the tool.
The Ozito does the job, has adequate power and has been working for me for about 5 years now.

I use Dewalt where i need rugged reliability.
But in all honesty, i whish i had gone with the Millwaki platform.
Im now stuck with Dewalt because i jave so many batteries and tools, its not worth starting over.

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Reply #27 - Apr 10^th, 2026 at 11:59am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 10^th, 2026 at 10:02am:

I have Ryobi - Dremel type tool:

My son in law swears by Ryobi.

I have not had a good run with them and now don't even consider them.
I had Ryobi drills, circular saw and angle grinder, all corded.

But the angle grinder contacts were gone in less than 2 years, had a mongrel of a job getting replacements, which also wore out in 2 years
The drill switch died on my first drill in less than 3 uses.
Was replaced under warranty, but then some capacitor or something inside died and it smoked up like a smoke grenade.
The circular saw worked well for a while, then stopped.
Being over Ryobi by now, I didn't even check it, just tossed it.

My DeWalt haven't given me a perfect run either.
One drill chuck committed suicide and had tobe replaced.
The charges are notorious for failure and the batteries go nova and refuse to charge ( there is a simple fix which seems to work)

The only tools that have given my almost flawless performance are the ozito.
I have given the tools I have absolute hell.
Soaking them in water on the side of the road.
Working them to overheat shutdown.
Dropping them from great heights.
But they just keep going.

Accuracy is not their strong point, the circular saw is mostly plastic ad any cuts you wat more accurate than plus or minus 5mm is impossible.
Likewise for the angular accuracy, varies with each cut.
Their jug saw ist any better, accuracy is only a dream.

My DeWalt circular saw and jig saw are my go to for accuracy.
But....my mates Milwaukee circular saw and jig saws are even better than my DeWalt.

So I have learned that there are tools for different purposes.
In my 4x4 I have a set of Ozito drill, torque driver and rattle gun.
There is also a ozito reciprocating saw ad angle grinder, all cordless.
Why?
Because they are cheap, reasonably reliable and if the car is broken into and the tools stoked, no big worry.
All my spanners and sockets are Toledo, cheap, but functional, I keep my Sidchrome at home.
But I have enough tools to do "most" repairs on the side of the road.

In the boat, I wet even cheaper, basically single use bunnings specials.
They rusted up every 12 months and if dropped overboard, it was not a major issue,.
I replaced them at the same time I did my trailer bearings, every 12 months and for often less cost than the damn bearings.

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Re: Chainsaw
Reply #28 - Apr 10^th, 2026 at 12:01pm

[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1775464628/26#26 date=1775779347]
I have Ryobi - Dremel type tool:

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlwzYDDZ7fc[/media][/quote]

My son in law swears by Ryobi.

I have not had a good run with them and now don't even consider them.
I had Ryobi drills, circular saw and angle grinder, all corded.

But the angle grinder contacts were gone in less than 2 years, had a mongrel of a job getting replacements, which also wore out in 2 years
The drill switch died on my first drill in less than 3 uses.
Was replaced under warranty, but then some capacitor or something inside died and it smoked up like a smoke grenade.
The circular saw worked well for a while, then stopped.
Being over Ryobi by now, I didn't even check it, just tossed it.

My DeWalt haven't given me a perfect run either.
One drill chuck committed suicide and had tobe replaced.
The charges are notorious for failure and the batteries go nova and refuse to charge ( there is a simple fix which seems to work)

The only tools that have given my almost flawless performance are the ozito.
I have given the tools I have absolute hell.
Soaking them in water on the side of the road.
Working them to overheat shutdown.
Dropping them from great heights.
But they just keep going.

Accuracy is not their strong point, the circular saw is mostly plastic ad any cuts you wat more accurate than plus or minus 5mm is impossible.
Likewise for the angular accuracy, varies with each cut.
Their jug saw ist any better, accuracy is only a dream.

My DeWalt circular saw and jig saw are my go to for accuracy.
But....my mates Milwaukee circular saw and jig saws are even better than my DeWalt.

So I have learned that there are tools for different purposes.
In my 4x4 I have a set of Ozito drill, torque driver and rattle gun.
There is also a ozito reciprocating saw ad angle grinder, all cordless.
Why?
Because they are cheap, reasonably reliable and if the car is broken into and the tools stoked, no big worry.
All my spanners and sockets are Toledo, cheap, but functional, I keep my Sidchrome at home.
But I have enough tools to do "most" repairs on the side of the road.

In the boat, I wet even cheaper, basically single use bunnings specials.
They rusted up every 12 months and if dropped overboard, it was not a major issue,.
I replaced them at the same time I did my trailer bearings, every 12 months and for often less cost than the damn bearings.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118959 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Chainsaw Reply #29 - Apr 10^th, 2026 at 4:12pm Valkie, Quote: My son in law swears by Ryobi. I have not had a good run with them and now don't even consider them. I had Ryobi drills, circular saw and angle grinder, all corded. I find Ryobi OK for the home handyman - for the cheap price. They would not be suitable for a professional tradesman who uses them every day.
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