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Reply #15 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:18pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:36pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:16pm:
were biden, obama and clinton corrupt ?

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Depends on what the meaning of 'is' is, insh'allah.


Everybody ulululate!!!



Sounds like the old boy's gone all shy.

What's the matter, dear boy, cat got your tongue?

Were the Autopen, the Kenyan and the sex trafficker corrupt or not?

Of course they were corrupt!  You do not believe for a moment, do you, that Biden was in charge of ANYTHING???  He was too thick to be VP and too far gone to be prez. Moth eaten sock puppet with the Kenyan half-white guy up his arse, moving his lips.   Everyone knows that. Even Biden.

And the half-Kenyyan guy was a creature of the Chicago Mob, sorry, Chicago Dem Machine operated by Rahm Emanuel. And who is touted as a possible Dem nominee for 2028? Er... yes.... Rahm.





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Rahm Emanuel. And who is touted as a possible Dem nominee for 2028? Er... yes.... Rahm.


You know that Trump is an American for no other reason than his grandfather was thrown out of Germany. You know the guy who was arrested at a KKK march.


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Reply #16 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:31pm
 
I think Obama wasn't too bad.
Joe was a bit corrupt but not very good at it.

Bill and Donny are both very self centered narcissists.

Chris Hutchins who is very admirable ( dead now from cancer) wrote a book about the clintons.
Pretty damming stuff.
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Reply #17 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:39pm
 
Hitchens’ main allegations about the Clintons
1. Habitual lying and political manipulation
In his book No One Left to Lie To, Hitchens argued that:
Bill Clinton was a “serial liar” who used deception as a core political strategy
He accused Clinton of “triangulation”—adapting positions purely for political survival rather than principle �
Wikipedia
👉 This wasn’t just criticism—it was a full-on argument that Clinton’s presidency was fundamentally dishonest.
2. Smear campaigns against accusers (Monica Lewinsky case)
Hitchens made one of his most concrete claims under oath:
He submitted an affidavit saying a Clinton ally described Monica Lewinsky as a “stalker”
He alleged this reflected a coordinated effort by the Clinton circle to discredit her
This fed into his broader claim that the Clintons:
Destroyed or smeared critics and accusers
Used loyalists (“Clintonoids,” as he called them) to do it publicly and privately �
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3. “Clinton machine” / culture of intimidation
Hitchens often described a wider ecosystem around them:
A network of operatives, allies, and media figures who would attack opponents aggressively
A political culture he called “poisonous” or “nasty”
He wasn’t alleging assassinations—but he was alleging:
Character assassination
Media manipulation
Coordinated political hit jobs


Hutchins also pointed out the incorrect allegation of a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory as a chemical weapons factory and is destruction on the day he appeared before a grandjury over the Lewinsky affair resulted in the deaths of some 400 civilians who were just making antibiotics for the people of sudan .
Lefties might call this a war crime
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Reply #18 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:09pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:15pm:
The question is do you believe they were not? Wink


You see? You can't even say.

This is what the truth has become.

Ah, the "narrow road to success".

Armageddonism 101, innit.
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Reply #19 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:11pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:31pm:
I think Obama wasn't too bad.
Joe was a bit corrupt but not very good at it.

Bill and Donny are both very self centered narcissists.

Chris Hutchins who is very admirable ( dead now from cancer) wrote a book about the clintons.
Pretty damming stuff.


Hang on, did you just say they weren't corrupt?

Please explain?
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Reply #20 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:15pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:36pm:
that means for the past 20+ years the us has had corrupt leaders.

their political system is flawed


When everything is perfect you have reached the end.
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Trump derangement syndrome
Fareed Zakaria defined the term as "hatred of President Trump so intense that it impairs people's judgment"
 
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Reply #21 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:50pm
 
Leroy wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:15pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:36pm:
that means for the past 20+ years the us has had corrupt leaders.

their political system is flawed


When everything is perfect you have reached the end.


Do you agree with Sprint, Biggest Donger?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #22 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:52pm
 
Leroy wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:15pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:36pm:
that means for the past 20+ years the us has had corrupt leaders.

their political system is flawed


When everything is perfect you have reached the end.


Whadaya reckon Leeroy. Sprint is quite insane?

He says the American system is flawed.
Well der Roll Eyes It's been that way since their Independence Day.
Barking up the wrong tree after Rome & Athens.
Having thrown the British Holy Grail away.

Now along comes internet Trump the Saxon, who along with Anglo Johnson and Protestant Morrison - the planets aligned.
USA had a bit of a true Western British renaissance.
And Sprint blames Trump for all that that former Leftism, that has fallen away.

Maybe I'm harsh, maybe he's not insane. Maybe he's just plain stupid.
Crying in the rain.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #23 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:54pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:52pm:
Leroy wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:15pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:36pm:
that means for the past 20+ years the us has had corrupt leaders.

their political system is flawed


When everything is perfect you have reached the end.


Whadaya reckon Leeroy. Sprint is quite insane?

He says the American system is flawed.
Well der Roll Eyes It's been that way since their Independence Day.
Barking up the wrong tree after Rome & Athens.
Having thrown the British Holy Grail away.

Now along comes internet Trump the Saxon, who along with Anglo Johnson and Protestant Morrison - the planets aligned.
USA had a bit of a true Western British renaissance.
And Sprint blames Trump for all that that former Leftism, that has fallen away.

Maybe I'm harsh, maybe he's not insane. Maybe he's just plain stupid.
Crying in the rain.


Modern classic, innit.
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Reply #24 - Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:13pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:09pm:
lee wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 8:15pm:
The question is do you believe they were not? Wink


You see? You can't even say.

This is what the truth has become.

Ah, the "narrow road to success".

Armageddonism 101, innit.


The thing is I don't know. You don't know. It may be true, it may not be true. But of course you only want people's beliefs, not truth. Roll Eyes
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Reply #25 - Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:15pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 10:02pm:
You know that Trump is an American for no other reason than his grandfather was thrown out of Germany. You know the guy who was arrested at a KKK march.


Simply wrong again.  You never fail. It was Trump's father who was arrested and released, no charge, for "failure to move on as directed". In fact his father  "donated the plot of land where the Beach Haven Jewish Center was built in Brooklyn and contributed towards its construction. He affectionately referred to Rabbi Israel Wagner, who approached the elder Trump for help, as "My Rabbi."

https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/10/16/fred-and-donald-trumps-jewish-connection/
That doesn't sound remotely like the KKK.

Keep slinging mud. You may get some to stick. But that certainly isn't it. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW - Trump's granfather gave the Jewish people land in
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Reply #26 - Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:34pm
 
Corrupt is corrupt.

Viewpoints only really come into it around if one cares about the corruption or not.
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Reply #27 - Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:57pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:15pm:
remotely like the KKK.


'Donald Trump became the president of his father's real-estate business in 1971. Two years later, they were sued by the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division for racial discrimination against black people.
.. Shortly before his death, Fred transferred the ownership of most of his buildings to his surviving children, who several years later sold them for over 16 times their previously declared worth.

From World War II onward, to avoid associations with Nazism, Fred Trump denied his German ancestry and also supported Jewish causes'.
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Reply #28 - Apr 3rd, 2026 at 1:23pm
 
chimera wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:57pm:
lee wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:15pm:
remotely like the KKK.


'Donald Trump became the president of his father's real-estate business in 1971. Two years later, they were sued by the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division for racial discrimination against black people.
.. Shortly before his death, Fred transferred the ownership of most of his buildings to his surviving children, who several years later sold them for over 16 times their previously declared worth.

From World War II onward, to avoid associations with Nazism, Fred Trump denied his German ancestry and also supported Jewish causes'.



And burnt crosses on their front lawns? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #29 - Apr 3rd, 2026 at 1:25pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 3rd, 2026 at 12:34pm:
Viewpoints only really come into it around if one cares about the corruption or not.


And I have never said anything different. It depends on your viewpoint. Beliefs. Wink
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