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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56539 Gender:	Re: The U.S. government is insolvent. Reply #30 - Mar 28^th, 2026 at 10:45pm It's been trillions 💸💵💸💵💸 in debt long before Trump.
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Reply #31 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am

The U.S. national debt increased by $7.8 trillion during Donald Trump’s first term (2017–2021), rising from $19.95 trillion to $27.75 trillion,

As of March 2026, the total national debt exceeded $39 trillion, with about $2.8 trillion added since the start of Trump’s second term.

$10.6 trillion is Trump debt.

Over a quarter of US debt is Trump's fault.

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Reply #32 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:58am

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

The U.S. national debt increased by $7.8 trillion during Donald Trump’s first term (2017–2021), rising from $19.95 trillion to $27.75 trillion,

As of March 2026, the total national debt exceeded $39 trillion, with about $2.8 trillion added since the start of Trump’s second term.

$10.6 trillion is Trump debt.

Over a quarter of US debt is Trump's fault.

Probably true.

But the chodes all put their hand out for a hand out.
No one practices personal responsibility any more.
Here in Australia we have programs costing over 200 billion for aged care. Child care and disability care because people will not take responsibility for their parents children or disabled relatives.

Like spoilt brats they view this as governments responsibility.

China is different.

Despite being so called communist, you and your village take personal responsibility for these things.

Result....prosperity.

The west has too many leaners. Too many takers, too many people who seem to think they have the right to remain perpetual infants.

Cradle to grave infants.
Always wanting to suck off Washington's or Canberra's titties

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Re: The U.S. government is insolvent.
Reply #33 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 7:36am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:58am:

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

The U.S. national debt increased by $7.8 trillion during Donald Trump’s first term (2017–2021), rising from $19.95 trillion to $27.75 trillion,

As of March 2026, the total national debt exceeded $39 trillion, with about $2.8 trillion added since the start of Trump’s second term.

$10.6 trillion is Trump debt.

Over a quarter of US debt is Trump's fault.

Probably true.

It IS true, and you should have ended your post there instead of trying to deflect to a safe space, trying to make yourself feel better.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15272 Armidale Gender:	Re: The U.S. government is insolvent. Reply #34 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 8:08am 'Donald Trump's companies filed for Chapter 11 business bankruptcy protection six times between 1991 and 2009.' These were great deals and proved his outstanding incompetence and preferred choice for election.
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Re: The U.S. government is insolvent.
Reply #35 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 9:08am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:58am:

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

The U.S. national debt increased by $7.8 trillion during Donald Trump’s first term (2017–2021), rising from $19.95 trillion to $27.75 trillion,

As of March 2026, the total national debt exceeded $39 trillion, with about $2.8 trillion added since the start of Trump’s second term.

$10.6 trillion is Trump debt.

Over a quarter of US debt is Trump's fault.

Probably true.

But the chodes all put their hand out for a hand out.
No one practices personal responsibility any more.
Here in Australia we have programs costing over 200 billion for aged care. Child care and disability care because people will not take responsibility for their parents children or disabled relatives.

Like spoilt brats they view this as governments responsibility.

China is different.

Despite being so called communist, you and your village take personal responsibility for these things.

Result....prosperity.

The west has too many leaners. Too many takers, too many people who seem to think they have the right to remain perpetual infants.

Cradle to grave infants.
Always wanting to suck off Washington's or Canberra's titties

OK lets do the maths then.

Trump ended his first term with $27.75 trillion debt.

The debt is now $39trillion which $2.8 trillion is from Trump

Where did the other $8.5 trillion come from?

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Trump derangement syndrome
Fareed Zakaria defined the term as "hatred of President Trump so intense that it impairs people's judgment"

Lets check in at 5pm on 23rd July 2025 then at 5pm on 30th July

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118462 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The U.S. government is insolvent. Reply #36 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 9:11am Trump is copying Zimbabwe - it's called hyperinflation: Buy a loaf of bread.
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Re: The U.S. government is insolvent.
Reply #37 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 9:41am

Biggest donger wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 9:08am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:58am:

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 6:36am:

The U.S. national debt increased by $7.8 trillion during Donald Trump’s first term (2017–2021), rising from $19.95 trillion to $27.75 trillion,

As of March 2026, the total national debt exceeded $39 trillion, with about $2.8 trillion added since the start of Trump’s second term.

$10.6 trillion is Trump debt.

Over a quarter of US debt is Trump's fault.

Probably true.

But the chodes all put their hand out for a hand out.
No one practices personal responsibility any more.
Here in Australia we have programs costing over 200 billion for aged care. Child care and disability care because people will not take responsibility for their parents children or disabled relatives.

Like spoilt brats they view this as governments responsibility.

China is different.

Despite being so called communist, you and your village take personal responsibility for these things.

Result....prosperity.

The west has too many leaners. Too many takers, too many people who seem to think they have the right to remain perpetual infants.

Cradle to grave infants.
Always wanting to suck off Washington's or Canberra's titties

OK lets do the maths then.

Trump ended his first term with $27.75 trillion debt.

The debt is now $39trillion which $2.8 trillion is from Trump

Where did the other $8.5 trillion come from?

It came from Biden of course this was your point in asking that question.
However, the question will turn around and bite you, so your attempt at a gotcha moment just failed,why did it fail? One reason, what did Biden achieve with his increased debt.
Lets compare one area , manufacturing jobs under Biden.
Manufacturing jobs saw a strong post-COVID recovery under President Biden, with nearly 800,000 added during his term, although about 589,000 of these were recovered from the initial pandemic losses.
So Biden increased these jobs by over 200,000, yes debt also increased ,but isnt that the job of a government, to increase opportunities for the people?
Now compare trumps failure in his first year using those same manufacturing job numbers.
Trump has lost almost 100,000 manufacturing jobs in 1 year whilst adding nearly 3 trillion in debt.

100,000 jobs lost leroy,increasing debt with nothing to show for it except another war.

I told you that question would turn around and bite you.

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Don't just rely on democrat PR for your information.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) released its preliminary annual benchmark review of employment data for March 2024. BLS found that there were 818,000 fewer jobs than previously reported.

Chairman Arrington Statement:

"Based on more comprehensive data released from state unemployment tax records, the Biden Bureau of Labor Statistics acknowledges they were way off on the number of new jobs created between March of 2023 and March of 2024 by almost one million or 30%, which is five times their average margin of error.

The economy is the top issue in this presidential race and the recent downwardly revised job numbers taken together with persistently high prices and interest rates bellies a much weaker Biden-Harris economy than we were led to believe.

The tax, spend, and regulate economic agenda of Biden-Harris has failed and no one knows that better than working Americans, which is why for six straight months, according to the Consumer Confidence Index, more Americans believe we are headed for a recession.”

What Today's Report Showed:

Today’s BLS jobs revision showed that the economy had 818,000 fewer jobs (as of March 2024) than previously estimated – with all of this net job loss coming from the private sector.

The largest sectors with downward revisions were professional and business services (-358,000), leisure and hospitality (-150,000), retail trade (-129,000), and manufacturing (-115,000).

Some sectors saw smaller upward revisions: private education and health services (87,000), transportation and warehousing (56,400), other services (21,000), utilities (1,700) and government (1,000).

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Trump derangement syndrome
Fareed Zakaria defined the term as "hatred of President Trump so intense that it impairs people's judgment"

Lets check in at 5pm on 23rd July 2025 then at 5pm on 30th July

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Biggest donger wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 10:30am:

Don't just rely on democrat PR for your information.

Quote:

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) released its preliminary annual benchmark review of employment data for March 2024. BLS found that there were 818,000 fewer jobs than previously reported.

Chairman Arrington Statement:

"Based on more comprehensive data released from state unemployment tax records, the Biden Bureau of Labor Statistics acknowledges they were way off on the number of new jobs created between March of 2023 and March of 2024 by almost one million or 30%, which is five times their average margin of error.

The economy is the top issue in this presidential race and the recent downwardly revised job numbers taken together with persistently high prices and interest rates bellies a much weaker Biden-Harris economy than we were led to believe.

The tax, spend, and regulate economic agenda of Biden-Harris has failed and no one knows that better than working Americans, which is why for six straight months, according to the Consumer Confidence Index, more Americans believe we are headed for a recession.”

What Today's Report Showed:

Today’s BLS jobs revision showed that the economy had 818,000 fewer jobs (as of March 2024) than previously estimated – with all of this net job loss coming from the private sector.

The largest sectors with downward revisions were professional and business services (-358,000), leisure and hospitality (-150,000), retail trade (-129,000), and manufacturing (-115,000).

Some sectors saw smaller upward revisions: private education and health services (87,000), transportation and warehousing (56,400), other services (21,000), utilities (1,700) and government (1,000).

So let me get this right, you want to claim that those numbers I gave you are democrat numbers?
Whilst at the same time ignoring the job losses under trump.
Which if your claims are correct,show that trump in 1 year has undone all the good Biden did by losing those 100,000 manufacturing jobs Biden created. Really leroy,is that all you have?

Trump loses jobs ,and you try to tell us all that trump is a good president, no wonder the world is laughing at trump supporters Grin

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20343 Gender:	Re: The U.S. government is insolvent. Reply #40 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 12:26pm Wow. Government debt and no mention of COVID as a precursor.
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Ai_Took_Our_Jobs Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 548 Gender:	Re: The U.S. government is insolvent. Reply #41 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 12:36pm lee wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 12:26pm: Wow. Government debt and no mention of COVID as a precursor. Did covid cause Trump to attack Iran. This term's looking like a bigger Trump spend on his previous record amount.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20343 Gender:	Re: The U.S. government is insolvent. Reply #42 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 12:57pm Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 12:36pm: Did covid cause Trump to attack Iran. The post I commented on had nothing to do with Iran. It was gov't debt to 2021. Do try to keep up.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56539 Gender:	Re: The U.S. government is insolvent. Reply #43 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 1:04pm The Left, Media and Democrats are just running on Conspiracy theories now.
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scope wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 11:01am:

Biggest donger wrote on Mar 29^th, 2026 at 10:30am:

Don't just rely on democrat PR for your information.

Quote:

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) released its preliminary annual benchmark review of employment data for March 2024. BLS found that there were 818,000 fewer jobs than previously reported.

Chairman Arrington Statement:

"Based on more comprehensive data released from state unemployment tax records, the Biden Bureau of Labor Statistics acknowledges they were way off on the number of new jobs created between March of 2023 and March of 2024 by almost one million or 30%, which is five times their average margin of error.

The economy is the top issue in this presidential race and the recent downwardly revised job numbers taken together with persistently high prices and interest rates bellies a much weaker Biden-Harris economy than we were led to believe.

The tax, spend, and regulate economic agenda of Biden-Harris has failed and no one knows that better than working Americans, which is why for six straight months, according to the Consumer Confidence Index, more Americans believe we are headed for a recession.”

What Today's Report Showed:

Today’s BLS jobs revision showed that the economy had 818,000 fewer jobs (as of March 2024) than previously estimated – with all of this net job loss coming from the private sector.

The largest sectors with downward revisions were professional and business services (-358,000), leisure and hospitality (-150,000), retail trade (-129,000), and manufacturing (-115,000).

Some sectors saw smaller upward revisions: private education and health services (87,000), transportation and warehousing (56,400), other services (21,000), utilities (1,700) and government (1,000).

So let me get this right, you want to claim that those numbers I gave you are democrat numbers?
Whilst at the same time ignoring the job losses under trump.
Which if your claims are correct,show that trump in 1 year has undone all the good Biden did by losing those 100,000 manufacturing jobs Biden created. Really leroy,is that all you have?

Trump loses jobs ,and you try to tell us all that trump is a good president, no wonder the world is laughing at trump supporters Grin

But of course. Biden had the Jobs and Infrastructure Act, the CHIPS Act and an entire long-term strategy for restoring manufacturing, rolling out broadband and putting the US at the centre of the AI revolution.

It was working. Silicon Valley boomed with microprocessor production - the biggest manufacturing jobs growth since the 1990s.

Then, DL came along and made Congress scrap the legislation. Worse, he signed off on Big Tech selling chips to China, undermining the whole push for US data security. Then, the tariffs, a series of blunders, catastrophies and half-baked ideas with no guiding mission or purpose.

White House "policy" statements read like a list of grievances - woke, trans, corruption and incompetence, waste and mismanagement. Apart from the big, beautiful tax cuts for the rich, there has been no legislation. The courts have cancelled almost everything, most notably the tariffs.

All of it has cost the US, adding 1.4 tril to the deficit. The invasion of Iran has cost hundreds of billions, and DL recently hit Congress up for another $200 bil more.

So yes, Scope, Bigger Donger and his ilk have no idea what they're talking about. The proof is there for everybody to see.

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