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Re: Trump Tanked the Economy Before the War Even Start
Reply #15 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:16pm
 
Ice are doing their job.
Getting rid of illegals. Just because they are law abiding, doesn't mean they are legal. Like the case of a New Zealander who served 6 years in the American military, etc, etc. He did not process his citizenship after his visa expired.

Being a lowlife and using emotional blackmail, doesn't cut it.
Illegal is illegal. Fact!

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Reply #16 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:27pm
 
You can see the market zig-zagging as we speak. The bull market is starting to round off, a protracted curve, heading down.

A number of stocks have dropped, just like that. Mining stocks that have been booming over the past year are starting to tank as diesel supplies dry up.

The Gulf has just turned the pumps off. The tourists are getting out. The Middle East isn't a viable airline route anymore.

Meanwhile, Vlad is raking in the petrodollars. The big fella's just removed his oil sanctions. Russia's back fueling China and India again - at record prices.

Turns out the only ones who benefited from DL's invasion were Vlad and the Chows.

Chi-na - number one. America number ten!

Cunning, no?
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Reply #17 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:32pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:16pm:
Ice are doing their job.
Getting rid of illegals. Just because they are law abiding, doesn't mean they are legal. Like the case of a New Zealander who served 6 years in the American military, etc, etc. He did not process his citizenship after his visa expired.

Being a lowlife and using emotional blackmail, doesn't cut it.
Illegal is illegal. Fact!



So why's your DL just fired Krist Noem and pulled ICE out?

You won't hear a peep out of ICE for the next ten months, I guarantee it.

You.
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Re: Trump Tanked the Economy Before the War Even Start
Reply #18 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:35pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:16pm:
Ice are doing their job.
Getting rid of illegals. Just because they are law abiding, doesn't mean they are legal. Like the case of a New Zealander who served 6 years in the American military, etc, etc. He did not process his citizenship after his visa expired.

Being a lowlife and using emotional blackmail, doesn't cut it.
Illegal is illegal. Fact!



So you support them leaving the Iranian terror cells Trump was talking about, in favour of law-abiding, and tax-paying, undocumented immigrants?

So you, and Trump, since they operate under his direction, are now pro terrorism?
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Reply #19 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:35pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:16pm:
Ice are doing their job.
Getting rid of illegals. Just because they are law abiding, doesn't mean they are legal. Like the case of a New Zealander who served 6 years in the American military, etc, etc. He did not process his citizenship after his visa expired.

Being a lowlife and using emotional blackmail, doesn't cut it.
Illegal is illegal. Fact!



So you support them leaving the Iranian terror cells Trump was talking about, in favour of law-abiding, and tax-paying, undocumented immigrants?

So you, and Trump, since they operate under his direction, are now pro terrorism?


How do you know that Trump has others (CIA, FBI, etc) focused on TERORIST CELLS, leaving ICE to deal with its regular offenders?
You should know Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
Are you butt hurt that he doesn't reveal to your silly stupid mainstream Media everything he had in plan and working, so you can televise it with your own out of context manipulations and edits, beyond just revealing it to the enemy straight up for starters?

You're a moron.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:00pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm:
... Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
...


Example?
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Reply #21 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:00pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm:
... Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
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Example?


Gee. Where do I start?  Grin

Well, let's start at the start.  Wink

Boy did all you Lefties laugh and laugh with an over-confidence and arrogance when Trump first ran for President.
...then he won.  He played you for fools  Grin

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Reply #22 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:09pm
 
Go watch your Oscars Lefty losers.
The world doesn't want your fake 'ACT' of politics. Grin
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Reply #23 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:12pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:00pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm:
... Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
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Example?


Gee. Where do I start? 


Just start by giving one example.

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Reply #24 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:12pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:00pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm:
... Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
...


Example?


Gee. Where do I start? 


Just start by giving one example.


Just did. Not my fault you're a daffodil who can't accept it.
Sucks being you, eh? Grin
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Re: Trump Tanked the Economy Before the War Even Start
Reply #25 - Mar 20th, 2026 at 10:25am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:35pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:16pm:
Ice are doing their job.
Getting rid of illegals. Just because they are law abiding, doesn't mean they are legal. Like the case of a New Zealander who served 6 years in the American military, etc, etc. He did not process his citizenship after his visa expired.

Being a lowlife and using emotional blackmail, doesn't cut it.
Illegal is illegal. Fact!



So you support them leaving the Iranian terror cells Trump was talking about, in favour of law-abiding, and tax-paying, undocumented immigrants?

So you, and Trump, since they operate under his direction, are now pro terrorism?


How do you know that Trump has others (CIA, FBI, etc) focused on TERORIST CELLS, leaving ICE to deal with its regular offenders?


Trump said these people entered illegally under Joe Biden. Trump also said ICE was going after the "worst of the worst".

If "illegal entry" is the defining standard, then by his own logic these individuals should be at the very top of the list. Not fruit pickers, not labourers, not families trying to get by, but alleged foreign-linked operatives from a hostile state.

Yet somehow the supposed existential threat gets surveillance, while low-level undocumented workers get raids, detention, and deportation.

That's not "worst of the worst", that's selective enforcement dressed up as strength.

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When asked by a Fox News reporter whether he had been briefed on how many Iranian sleeper cells might be inside the United States, Trump said authorities were monitoring them.

“I have been, and a lot of people came in through Biden with his stupid open border, but we know where most of them are. We’ve got our eye on all of them, I think,” Trump said.


So they "know where most of them are", but they're not being rounded up?

Right.

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You should know Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
Are you butt hurt that he doesn't reveal to your silly stupid mainstream Media everything he had in plan and working, so you can televise it with your own out of context manipulations and edits, beyond just revealing it to the enemy straight up for starters?

You're a moron. Roll Eyes


Ah yes, the ever-convenient "5D chess" defence, where every contradiction is actually genius, and every inconsistency is secretly part of the plan.

Funny how that logic only ever runs one way.

You want undocumented workers deported on sight because they "broke the law", but alleged sleeper cells get a strategic pass because... I don't know, they never existed and it was just another Trump lie?

So the harmless get punished, and the dangerous get patience.

That's not strategy, it's cognitive dissonance.

If these people really are what he claims, they'd be the definition of "worst of the worst". The fact they're apparently still there, being politely observed, tells you everything you need to know about how serious, or how real, that claim actually is.

And you call me a moron..?
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Reply #26 - Mar 20th, 2026 at 10:28am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:00pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm:
... Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
...


Example?


Gee. Where do I start? 


Start with this one, dear.

So why's your DL just fired Krist Noem and pulled ICE out?

You haven't said.
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Reply #27 - Mar 20th, 2026 at 10:30am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:12pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 5:00pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:53pm:
... Trump always works on his enemies over-confidence and make them slip up.
...


Example?


Gee. Where do I start? 


Just start by giving one example.


Just did. Not my fault you're a daffodil who can't accept it.
Sucks being you, eh? Grin


You cited American citizens who didn't vote for him. 

They are not his enemies, they are the people he took an oath to protect via his oath to protect the Constitution, which guarantees rights and protections to all people under US jurisdiction, not just MAGA.

If you think those who didn't vote for him are his enemies, you're a very broken person.
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Reply #28 - Mar 20th, 2026 at 10:46am
 
All this bluster from you, Jason, to avoid the obvious, that Donald Trump managed to rattle the US economy before the Iran situation even escalated.

Now layer on the consequences.

As tariffs on Chinese goods begin to bite, you've got energy markets being destabilised off the back of strikes and counter-strikes involving Iran and Israel. Refineries hit, oil fields hit, supply disrupted, and suddenly the global economy is staring down constrained fuel flows at the exact moment costs are already rising.

And what happens next? Other countries start hedging. They cut side deals, they look for alternative settlement mechanisms, and they begin chipping away at the dominance of the US dollar as the global reserve. That's not some abstract future risk, it's the predictable outcome when stability in the Strait of Hormuz gets turned into a bargaining chip.

So we're left with a perfect storm: trade friction, energy shocks, and strategic self-sabotage, all with Trump's signature on them.

And we're meant to believe this is deliberate? That the pain is the point? That economic contraction, supply disruption, and long-term damage to production capacity across the region is all just part of some grand design?

Or is this just the inevitable consequences of how incompitent Trump and his hand picked loyalists are?

These aren't short-term setbacks. Damage to oil infrastructure isn't fixed overnight, it's measured in years. You're talking 5 to 10 years to fully recover output in some cases, and that's assuming no further escalation.

That's assuming Trump surrenders right now, today.

All of this circles back to one decision, the tearing up of the nuclear agreement negotiated under Barack Obama. An agreement that, whatever its imperfections, was constraining Iran's nuclear pathway and keeping a lid on exactly this kind of escalation.

So here we are.

Economic strain at home, instability abroad and of course in the US, and Iran closer to the very capability that deal was designed to prevent.

Is this the "5D chess" we keep hearing about?

Because from the outside, it looks less like a strategy and more like setting fire to the board and insisting the smoke is part of the plan.

At best, we're hoping to get back to a point we would have been if Trump did nothing and just claimed credit for Obama's deal.  Instead, we get the Trump Steaks version of Middle East diplomacy.

And you're still cheering him on like a blithering idiot.
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Reply #29 - Mar 20th, 2026 at 11:17am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 20th, 2026 at 10:46am:
All this bluster from you, Jason, to avoid the obvious, that Donald Trump managed to rattle the US economy before the Iran situation even escalated.

Now layer on the consequences.

As tariffs on Chinese goods begin to bite, you've got energy markets being destabilised off the back of strikes and counter-strikes involving Iran and Israel. Refineries hit, oil fields hit, supply disrupted, and suddenly the global economy is staring down constrained fuel flows at the exact moment costs are already rising.

And what happens next? Other countries start hedging. They cut side deals, they look for alternative settlement mechanisms, and they begin chipping away at the dominance of the US dollar as the global reserve. That's not some abstract future risk, it's the predictable outcome when stability in the Strait of Hormuz gets turned into a bargaining chip.

So we're left with a perfect storm: trade friction, energy shocks, and strategic self-sabotage, all with Trump's signature on them.

And we're meant to believe this is deliberate? That the pain is the point? That economic contraction, supply disruption, and long-term damage to production capacity across the region is all just part of some grand design?

Or is this just the inevitable consequences of how incompitent Trump and his hand picked loyalists are?

These aren't short-term setbacks. Damage to oil infrastructure isn't fixed overnight, it's measured in years. You're talking 5 to 10 years to fully recover output in some cases, and that's assuming no further escalation.

That's assuming Trump surrenders right now, today.

All of this circles back to one decision, the tearing up of the nuclear agreement negotiated under Barack Obama. An agreement that, whatever its imperfections, was constraining Iran's nuclear pathway and keeping a lid on exactly this kind of escalation.

So here we are.

Economic strain at home, instability abroad and of course in the US, and Iran closer to the very capability that deal was designed to prevent.

Is this the "5D chess" we keep hearing about?

Because from the outside, it looks less like a strategy and more like setting fire to the board and insisting the smoke is part of the plan.

At best, we're hoping to get back to a point we would have been if Trump did nothing and just claimed credit for Obama's deal.  Instead, we get the Trump Steaks version of Middle East diplomacy.

And you're still cheering him on like a blithering idiot.


It was either this or O'Bama 4.0
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