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Trump Tanked the Economy Before the War Even Start
Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:16pm
 
If you actually look at the hard numbers, Trump's "strong economy" narrative collapses immediately.

Real GDP growth in 2025 came in at just 2.2%, down from 2.8% the year before. That's not strength, that's a clear loss of momentum.

And the trend line is worse than the headline:
- Growth fell off a cliff from 4.4% in Q3 to ~1.4% in Q4, with revisions as low as 0.7%
- Federal government spending contracted sharply, dragging growth down directly
- Exports and investment weakened under tariff pressure

That last point matters more than his supporters want to admit.

We were explicitly told the tariffs were about boosting US exports and rebalancing trade. That was the sales pitch. That was the justification for lighting up a trade war in the first place.

Instead, exports have weakened, investment has stalled, and global demand for US goods has taken a hit. The exact opposite outcome.

This wasn't unpredictable. Economists, trade experts, even basic economic theory were all pointing to the same conclusion, you don't win a trade war by making your own goods more expensive and inviting retaliation against your exporters.

And yet here we are.

Trump hasn't just failed to meet his own stated goal, he's actively made it worse. US exporters are now dealing with retaliatory tariffs, disrupted supply chains, and declining competitiveness, all self-inflicted directly by Trump.

This is exactly what you'd expect when you gut public spending and pick a trade war with half the planet.

Even the OECD has been explicit, Trump's tariffs are a primary driver of slowing US and global growth, cutting forecasts and suppressing investment and consumption.

And now, just as the economy is already slowing, he's about to make it worse again.

We've got massive tariff escalation looming, with extreme tariffs on China (pushing well beyond 100%) hanging over the global economy, unless he backs down again at the last second. Economists have been warning consistently that further escalation will cut growth, raise prices, and increase recession risk.

At the same time, his foreign policy has detonated the other half of the economy:
- Oil prices have already surged ~50% toward $95–$100+ a barrel due to the Iran conflict
- The disruption through the Strait of Hormuz was explicitly warned about beforehand
- Economists are now saying this alone could shave 0.25–0.5% off GDP while driving inflation higher

So let's be very clear about the timeline his supporters keep trying to blur:

All of the weak GDP data we're seeing happened before the oil shock and war impacts have even flowed through the system.

Meaning:

The slowdown is already baked in from:
- cuts to government services and spending
- reduced aid and public investment
- a self-inflicted tariff/trade war

And now we layer on:
- an energy shock
- supply chain disruption
- rising inflation
- further tariff escalation

That's not a recovery setup. That's how you engineer a downturn.

At this point, calling it anything else is just denial.

This is shaping up to be a textbook, self-inflicted recession driven by policy choices, not external shocks.

Call it what it is:

The Trump Recession.
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Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:28pm
 
sadroo do you ever have lucid moments?.
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Reply #2 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:48pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:16pm:
If you actually look at the hard numbers, Trump's "strong economy" narrative collapses immediately.

Real GDP growth in 2025 came in at just 2.2%, down from 2.8% the year before. That's not strength, that's a clear loss of momentum.

And the trend line is worse than the headline:
- Growth fell off a cliff from 4.4% in Q3 to ~1.4% in Q4, with revisions as low as 0.7%
- Federal government spending contracted sharply, dragging growth down directly
- Exports and investment weakened under tariff pressure

That last point matters more than his supporters want to admit.

We were explicitly told the tariffs were about boosting US exports and rebalancing trade. That was the sales pitch. That was the justification for lighting up a trade war in the first place.

Instead, exports have weakened, investment has stalled, and global demand for US goods has taken a hit. The exact opposite outcome.

This wasn't unpredictable. Economists, trade experts, even basic economic theory were all pointing to the same conclusion, you don't win a trade war by making your own goods more expensive and inviting retaliation against your exporters.

And yet here we are.

Trump hasn't just failed to meet his own stated goal, he's actively made it worse. US exporters are now dealing with retaliatory tariffs, disrupted supply chains, and declining competitiveness, all self-inflicted directly by Trump.

This is exactly what you'd expect when you gut public spending and pick a trade war with half the planet.

Even the OECD has been explicit, Trump's tariffs are a primary driver of slowing US and global growth, cutting forecasts and suppressing investment and consumption.

And now, just as the economy is already slowing, he's about to make it worse again.

We've got massive tariff escalation looming, with extreme tariffs on China (pushing well beyond 100%) hanging over the global economy, unless he backs down again at the last second. Economists have been warning consistently that further escalation will cut growth, raise prices, and increase recession risk.

At the same time, his foreign policy has detonated the other half of the economy:
- Oil prices have already surged ~50% toward $95–$100+ a barrel due to the Iran conflict
- The disruption through the Strait of Hormuz was explicitly warned about beforehand
- Economists are now saying this alone could shave 0.25–0.5% off GDP while driving inflation higher

So let's be very clear about the timeline his supporters keep trying to blur:

All of the weak GDP data we're seeing happened before the oil shock and war impacts have even flowed through the system.

Meaning:

The slowdown is already baked in from:
- cuts to government services and spending
- reduced aid and public investment
- a self-inflicted tariff/trade war

And now we layer on:
- an energy shock
- supply chain disruption
- rising inflation
- further tariff escalation

That's not a recovery setup. That's how you engineer a downturn.

At this point, calling it anything else is just denial.

This is shaping up to be a textbook, self-inflicted recession driven by policy choices, not external shocks.

Call it what it is:

The Trump Recession.


Yep.

No denying any of that.

And I maintain that he's done it all on purpose.

A childish, spiteful act of sabotage.

His doctors have given him a bad prognosis and now he wants to destroy America, and hopefully the rest of the world, before he dies.

"If I can't have it, nobody can"
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Reply #3 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:58pm
 
Did your parents work for the Slovenian Soviet Secret Police?
You bullshyte propaganda comments are retro.
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Reply #4 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:59pm
 
Leroy wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:28pm:
sadroo do you ever have lucid moments?.

He nibbles the mushrooms in the bush with his mob
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #5 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:11pm
 
Not a single person so far has been able to refute any of the facts in my post.

Just personal attacks.

Says it all.
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Reply #6 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:21pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:11pm:
Not a single person so far has been able to refute any of the facts in my post.

Just personal attacks.

Says it all.


Oh, you mean like personal attacks on Trump since 2016 because he's a Ranga male, his sex life, his fashion, etc because you couldn't get anything on him Politically unless it was fabricated lies and false propaganda by mainstream Media.

Great Britain & Australia will soon jilt gay Starmer & Anus, to realign with Trump.
That's progress in the Right direction.
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Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:24pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:21pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:11pm:
Not a single person so far has been able to refute any of the facts in my post.

Just personal attacks.

Says it all.


Oh, you mean like personal attacks on Trump since 2016 because he's a Ranga male, his sex life, his fashion, etc because you couldn't get anything on him Politically unless it was fabricated lies and false propaganda by mainstream Media.

Great Britain & Australia will soon jilt gay Starmer & Anus, to realign with Trump.
That's progress in the Right direction.


So now you're trying to gaslight criticism of Trump's actions, things he actually did, as personal attacks?

You couldn't make your flag any whiter if you bleached it for a year...
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Reply #8 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:35pm
 
The proof is in everything since 2016.
The Biden term was a full scale personal attack on Trump, rather than running the country effectively. The Democratic Left even put illegal migrations of plebs and criminals before that of American people. Talk about a very un American govt. The fact is that since 2016 you Lefties have made it personal against Trump, because you haven't the grace to accept that he  is politically orthodox and better. That's the flaw in your Lefty Politics, it's all about sex and race.

Well let me tell you. Where there's a little Ranga, there is also a tall blondie and he's really going to put an end to your Media infused fake politics of spaghetti Westernism which has provided the world with Communism, Dictators and Terrorism.

You are the bad guys. Too bad, so sad. Suck it up daffodil  Grin
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Reply #9 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:40pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:21pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:11pm:
Not a single person so far has been able to refute any of the facts in my post.

Just personal attacks.

Says it all.


Oh, you mean like personal attacks on Trump since 2016 because he's a Ranga male, his sex life, his fashion, etc because you couldn't get anything on him Politically unless it was fabricated lies and false propaganda by mainstream Media.

Great Britain & Australia will soon jilt gay Starmer & Anus, to realign with Trump.
That's progress in the Right direction.


If you werent such a dumb trump supporter I would suggest you read this,but I know you wont,you just want to bury your head in the sand like every other trump following moron.

Donald Trump’s 50 Years of Criminal Behavior and Criminal Hypocrisy.https://washingtonmonthly.com/


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Reply #10 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:46pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:35pm:
The proof is in everything since 2016.
The Biden term was a full scale personal attack on Trump, rather than running the country effectively. The Democratic Left even put illegal migrations of plebs and criminals before that of American people. Talk about a very un American govt. The fact is that since 2016 you Lefties have made it personal against Trump, because you haven't the grace to accept that he  is politically orthodox and better. That's the flaw in your Lefty Politics, it's all about sex and race.

Well let me tell you. Where there's a little Ranga, there is also a tall blondie and he's really going to put an end to your Media infused fake politics of spaghetti Westernism which has provided the world with Communism, Dictators and Terrorism.

You are the bad guys. Too bad, so sad. Suck it up daffodil  Grin


Then show me one example of something I've criticised Trump for that isn't rooted in his actions.

If your claim has any weight, if this has been "prevalent" since 2016, there should be no shortage of examples.

Right now, though, we're looking at a President who lied to the people: claiming he would be the President of peace, increase wages, lower fuel and grocery prices, run the most open and transparent government ever, end government fruad, corruption and abuse, grow the economy, release the Epstein files, lower unemployment, and be the most pro‑Constitution President ever.

All of it, every single promise, false.  A lie. 

Lies you gobbled up like a good like sheep.

And the left warned you. We saw what he did with guardrails in his first term. We told you exactly what he'd do if you voted for him again. And guess what? He DID IT.

And your response? Ignore all of it and attack the left.

You know it's true. You have to, because it's all you've got left. That burning feeling inside? You think you can quiet it by lashing out at those pointing out your stupidity.

But you're only feeding it.
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Reply #11 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:53pm
 
Gee.  Roll Eyes
Every politician in the world is said to be criminal throughout history.
Like rich people are sexually criminal and poor people are financially criminal, etc.
Obama : criminally funding Terrorism with BILLIONS 💸💵
Clinton: Sexually criminal.
Hillary: Wikileaks proving her a criminal.
Australian people: Convicts - but still fighting against Japs & Nazis.

If Trump is a Criminal too. At least he is proven his redemption on behalf of American people first and not illegal border jumping plebs and drug cartels, etc.
Of helping Islam put an end to its Terrorist within.
Of putting the American economy first and not letting Europe and Asia and other nations siphon trillions 💸💵 through your treacherous Lefty Democrats and even older Republican terms which played to the Media narrative.

Good on Trump. He kicked the hornets nest Wink
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Reply #12 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:59pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 1:58pm:
Did your parents work for the Slovenian Soviet Secret Police?
You bullshyte propaganda comments are retro.


So, you're saying he didn't do it all on purpose?

You believe it's a result of his ignorance and incompetence?

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Reply #13 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:02pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:53pm:
Gee.  Roll Eyes
Every politician in the world is said to be criminal throughout history.
Like rich people are sexually criminal and poor people are financially criminal, etc.
Obama : criminally funding Terrorism with BILLIONS 💸💵
Clinton: Sexually criminal.
Hillary: Wikileaks proving her a criminal.
Australian people: Convicts - but still fighting against Japs & Nazis.

If Trump is a Criminal too. At least he is proven his redemption on behalf of American people first and not illegal border jumping plebs and drug cartels, etc.
Of helping Islam put an end to its Terrorist within.
Of putting the American economy first and not letting Europe and Asia and other nations siphon trillions 💸💵 through your treacherous Lefty Democrats and even older Republican terms which played to the Media narrative.

Good on Trump. He kicked the hornets nest Wink


Trump is an adjudicated rapist and a convicted felon with 34 convictions.

Obama and the Clintons have no criminal convictions at all.

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Reply #14 - Mar 19th, 2026 at 4:07pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2026 at 3:53pm:
Gee.  Roll Eyes
Every politician in the world is said to be criminal throughout history.
Like rich people are sexually criminal and poor people are financially criminal, etc.
Obama : criminally funding Terrorism with BILLIONS 💸💵
Clinton: Sexually criminal.
Hillary: Wikileaks proving her a criminal.
Australian people: Convicts - but still fighting against Japs & Nazis.

If Trump is a Criminal too. At least he is proven his redemption on behalf of American people first and not illegal border jumping plebs and drug cartels, etc.
Of helping Islam put an end to its Terrorist within.
Of putting the American economy first and not letting Europe and Asia and other nations siphon trillions 💸💵 through your treacherous Lefty Democrats and even older Republican terms which played to the Media narrative.

Good on Trump. He kicked the hornets nest Wink


Where has he actually done any of that?

He goes on about "known Iranian terror cells in the US", so why hasn't ICE gone after them? They've had a year+...

Why are they raiding law‑abiding families instead?

"Helping Islam?" How exactly? By bombing innocent civilians and destabilising entire regions?

"Putting the American economy first?" Where?

And to bring this back on topic, this very thread is proof he's stuffed the US economy. The impact of the war with Iran isn't even showing up in these numbers yet. What you're seeing now is the result of tariffs, reckless spending and spending cuts, tax cuts for the rich, and higher effective taxes on the middle and lower classes, and that's before you factor in the blowback from foreign policy chaos.

That's exactly what he's done. How is pointing it out a personal attack?

The problem isn't me, it's that you've fused this MAGA cult into your own personality. Any accurate criticism of Trump hits you personally.

That's what's burning inside you: the realisation you were conned, lied to, and warned, and you were too stupid to listen, because the cult became a core part of your identity.

You're an absolute idiot, and your chickens are coming home to roost.

We told you, dumbass.
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