Australian Politics Forum - SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?

Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14763 Melbourne Gender:	Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win? Reply #45 - Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 9:07am
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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14763 Melbourne Gender:	Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win? Reply #46 - Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 10:00am Looks like One Nation could end up with 3 - possibly 4 seats. An absolute disaster for the Libs. They probably need to dissolve the party and start over with a rebranding!
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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #47 - Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 10:13am

"The Greens are moribund"

Greens 83,511 10.4% +1.3%

Still an outside chance of a lower house seat, if they get into second place, will win on preferences.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/sa/2026/guide/heys

Assisted Labor in holding on some seats where Labor's primary collapsed.

Greens are fine.

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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #48 - Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 12:35pm

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 10:13am:

"The Greens are moribund"

Greens 83,511 10.4% +1.3%

Still an outside chance of a lower house seat, if they get into second place, will win on preferences.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/sa/2026/guide/heys

Assisted Labor in holding on some seats where Labor's primary collapsed.

Greens are fine.

No they are not, they have been stuck on c.11% (Oz wide) for a decade, despite the c-o-l and housing crisis...while ON has soared since the last federal election. Leader Adam Bandt's loss, due to changing voting patterns at the last federal election, was a disaster for the Greens.

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Adan Bandt was ousted from his formerly safe seat of Melbourne due to a confluence of factors, including a voter swing toward Labor to prevent a conservative government, the flow of Liberal preferences to Labor, and local frustration with the party’s campaign focus.

And now the Libs see they will have to join ON.....

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56637 Gender:	Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win? Reply #49 - Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 12:39pm Face it TGD. The Federal level has become a Golden Fleece.
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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #50 - Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 12:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2026 at 9:53pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2026 at 9:35pm:

1. Can you identify the 'word salad?

Thank you.

2. How can a government of ANY stripe solve the c-o-l and housing crisis for the working class, if you insist on lower taxes and spending, and higher interest rates?

(Which is why the Libs are heading for extinction, while Labor is at least offering some (insufficient) relief for low-income groups).

2. Your inability to engage in debate is deplorable.

You should see the mess Dan left us in Victoria.

We owe more money than NSW, QLD and Tassie combined -
we're so bankrupt that the federal Govt may have to bail us out.

Indeed, the feds have a "printing press", they can write off Vic's. debt at any time.

And you have some fabulous new infrastructure as a result of the state's debt.

And note the 'trade-off' with unemployment rates:

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Australia's national headline unemployment rate is approximately 4.1 -4.2% as of early 2024–2025, with rates varying across states and territories. Key figures show the lowest unemployent rates in states like Victoria and the Northern Territory, while others fluctuate higher, often reflecting strong participation in the Australian Capital Territory (ACT).

Who'd have thunk govt debt would reduce unemployment.....

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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #51 - Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 3:41pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 12:35pm:

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 10:13am:

"The Greens are moribund"

Greens 83,511 10.4% +1.3%

Still an outside chance of a lower house seat, if they get into second place, will win on preferences.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/sa/2026/guide/heys

Assisted Labor in holding on some seats where Labor's primary collapsed.

Greens are fine.

No they are not, they have been stuck on c.11% (Oz wide) for a decade, despite the c-o-l and housing crisis...while ON has soared since the last federal election. Leader Adam Bandt's loss, due to changing voting patterns at the last federal election, was a disaster for the Greens.

(google)

Adan Bandt was ousted from his formerly safe seat of Melbourne due to a confluence of factors, including a voter swing toward Labor to prevent a conservative government, the flow of Liberal preferences to Labor, and local frustration with the party’s campaign focus.

And now the Libs see they will have to join ON.....

Your original comment was that Greens where dying.

Now you say they are stable on 11%

That's a back peddle.

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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #52 - Mar 24^th, 2026 at 10:28am

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 3:41pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 12:35pm:

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2026 at 10:13am:

"The Greens are moribund"

Greens 83,511 10.4% +1.3%

Still an outside chance of a lower house seat, if they get into second place, will win on preferences.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/sa/2026/guide/heys

Assisted Labor in holding on some seats where Labor's primary collapsed.

Greens are fine.

No they are not, they have been stuck on c.11% (Oz wide) for a decade, despite the c-o-l and housing crisis...while ON has soared since the last federal election. Leader Adam Bandt's loss, due to changing voting patterns at the last federal election, was a disaster for the Greens.

(google)

Adan Bandt was ousted from his formerly safe seat of Melbourne due to a confluence of factors, including a voter swing toward Labor to prevent a conservative government, the flow of Liberal preferences to Labor, and local frustration with the party’s campaign focus.

And now the Libs see they will have to join ON.....

Your original comment was that Greens where dying.

Now you say they are stable on 11%

That's a back peddle.

No it isn't; moribund has different emphasis of defintion:

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Synonyms of Moribund

Dying/Declining: Expiring, failing, passing, perishing, waning, ebbing.

Stagnant/Inactive: Stagnating, forceless, lifeless, at a standstill.

I had the 2nd definition in mind, ie the Greens are at a standstill, even (in 2025) losing their leader in the housing, c-o-l, and inequality crisis, the very things the Greens promote themselves as having the solutions (higher taxes on wealth and greedy fossil-company price gougers).

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Ai_Took_Our_Jobs Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 590 Gender:	Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win? Reply #53 - Mar 24^th, 2026 at 12:17pm Standstill does not equate to ... stagnating, forceless, lifeless. Since in S,A, Greens have gained, while all others excluding O.N, has gone backwards. The evidence is in ... Greens are alive and kicking.
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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #54 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 7:44am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2026 at 9:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2026 at 9:01pm:

3 decades ago (!), Howard benefitted from a mining boom fueled by China.

And 3 decades ago, centre-left Clinton (a Dem) achieved the same outcome in the US, but for different reasons:

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President Clinton’s budget surpluses (1998–2001) were achieved through a combination of tax increases on high earners, restrained government spending, and a massive economic boom. Key factors included the 1993 budget deficit reduction, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, "peace dividend" defense cuts, and tech-driven economic growth.

Times change.....but your govt. debt delusions don't change, which is why the democracies are imploding while the working class, abandoned by the mainstream Left, is looking to Pauline for salvation. Won't work, especially with blind mainstream Neoclassical ideologues like you forcing governments to balance their budgets.

(eg you can't explain why the currency-issuing federal govt. had to borrow money to finance the covid lockdown, a major reason for the current $1trillion Oz govt. debt.)

Now both Lib and Lab have to realize they are on the nose with the working class - who are confused enough to think ON will save them.

But the days of Oz running on fossil fuel are over, which is ON's achilles heel.

Meanwhile the housing crisis cannot be fixed in the market economy.

Oh dear.....

That's just a word salad for -

Labor can't manage money.

Yet History shows the exact opposite. Most Labor governments have had to fix failed Liberal economies.

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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #55 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 11:56am

20 years ago we were DEBT FREE thanks to the NLP. Since then, the ALP Left have contributed the vast majority of our TRILLION+ 💸💵💸💵 DEBT.
COVID was a justified excuse for the NLP to spend directly to the people and couldn't be helped.
But our current immediate situation could have been softened if it wasn't for stupid incompetent Bidenesque Anus ALP.

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Re: SA Election Saturday 21 March, Who Will Win?
Reply #57 - Mar 29^th, 2026 at 10:57am

Jasin wrote on Mar 25^th, 2026 at 11:56am:

20 years ago we were DEBT FREE thanks to the NLP. Since then, the ALP Left have contributed the vast majority of our TRILLION+ 💸💵💸💵 DEBT.
COVID was a justified excuse for the NLP to spend directly to the people and couldn't be helped.
But our current immediate situation could have been softened if it wasn't for stupid incompetent Bidenesque Anus ALP.

20 years ago we had the best ecanomic conditions in over a century. The LNP committed this position into the future which meant that as soon as the economy deteriorated i.e see GFC we find that the LNP's unafordable spending that was locked in lead to disaster. Instead of spending the money they had they spent money into the future and that money depended on the best economy in a century continuing forever. Government income returning to historically normal levels was a disaster - an inevitable disaster. One example was the unafordable tax cuts to the wealthy, The money to pay for them went away but the cost remained. Had they spent money thay actually had on infrustructure
it would have been a big win for the country.

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