Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane (Read 286 times)
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Offline


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 52815
At my desk.
'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Today at 7:59am
 
This is getting ridiculous

Pro-Palestinian group accuses Queensland police of 'overreach' after 'From the river to the sea' arrests

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-12/qld-speech-laws-protest-students-for-palestine-responds-police/106445318

A pro-Palestinian student group is accusing Queensland police of targeting a demonstration for the "express purpose" of using the state's new hate speech laws to make arrests.

Yesterday, 33-year-old Liam Parry was arrested for using the phrase "From the river to the sea" at an "unauthorised protest" outside state parliament.

An 18-year-old woman was later arrested in the city.

The contested phrase, which is commonly used by pro-Palestinian groups at rallies, was one of two deemed antisemitic by the state government last week and banned in circumstances where it could menace or offend.

Police say the woman was dealt with by way of an adult caution, while Mr Parry is due to appear in Brisbane Magistrates Court next month.

It was the first time the new laws had been used.

'Total overreach'

Students for Palestine convenor Ella Gutteridge said she had never seen "riot police everywhere" at a student demonstration before yesterday's and believed they were present "with the express purpose of using these laws".

"The police were listening closely," she said.

"They were ready to make arrests and it was very clear that they came to make arrests."

The ABC put detailed questions to police about the arrests and received the following from a spokesperson:

"Police presence is standard at any protest to manage any road closures, to provide assistance, or direction where required to ensure public and community safety.

"As the matter is now before the court, it would be inappropriate to comment further."

The ABC has seen footage of Mr Parry using "from the river to the sea" in a speech, while the woman was wearing a singlet bearing the phrase.

In a speech to the demonstration, Mr Parry can be heard explaining to the crowd that there are exceptions to the laws, including if the phrases are used for education or in the public interest.

"In the interests of education, I want to explain to you," he said.

"There's a phrase that the government is banning. It uses the words river and the word sea ... the land in between these two bodies of water is the land of Palestine.

"The phrase the government is trying to ban is about asserting that the people who live between those bodies of water deserve dignity and freedom.

"When we say 'from the river to the sea' we are calling for freedom and liberation for the people of Palestine."

The government and members of the Jewish community have described both "From the river to the sea" and "Globalise the intifada" as antisemitic.

Jewish Board of Deputies president Jason Steinberg said it was "heartening" to see police enforcing the new hate speech laws, and that he disagreed with the explanation of the phrase in Mr Parry's speech.

He said the phrase "From the river to the sea" had been used to "intimidate kids and intimidate Jewish people in workplaces and on the streets".

"The Jews will be exterminated. That is what that statement means," he said.

Government says phrase can be defended

Speaking at a press conference in Bundaberg on Thursday, Police Minister Dan Purdie said there were defences to the use of the phrase.

"What we did was make it clear that we were going to stamp out hate," he told reporters.

"There are a long list of defences … you have to be using it [as] a term that is driving hate and calling for hate.

"So if it is part of education … or other defences that are in the Act … that's certainly the case."

Mr Steinberg said he believed the education defence should apply to the phrase being used in a museum or a classroom.

"Standing on a street outside Parliament House shouting that slogan, or standing on any street in Queensland, it's not for any other purpose than to incite hatred," he said.

Ms Gutteridge said the police presence had been "total overreach" and an attempt to intimidate students.

Mr Purdie said it was a matter "solely for the police" how the laws were enforced as they had been passed.

"As our police do, everyday across the state, they enforce the law," he explained.

He said he did not believe Wednesday's arrests had suppressed free speech.

Another Students for Palestine convenor, Connor Knight, agreed yesterday's police presence was "massively disproportionate".

"They came looking to arrest people, they came looking for a fight,"  he said.
Ms Gutteridge said she believed the charge would be challenged on the grounds the speech was educational and in the public interest.

Under the laws passed last week by Queensland parliament, the phrases "From the river to the sea" and "Globalise the intifada" are banned if used in a way that could cause a person to feel menaced, harassed or offended.

The new laws include both written and spoken phrases, including chants or placards, with penalties of up to two years in prison.

Ms Gutteridge said she believed people should be allowed to call for "freedom and liberation" for people in Palestine, adding it was up to individuals to decide whether the banned phrases would continue to be used at rallies.

She argued the laws undermined people's "fundamental right" to criticise Australia's foreign policy.

"I think these laws are illegitimate and they cannot stand," she told reporters.
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Melanias purse
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 101381
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #1 - Today at 8:04am
 
Do you concur, FD?

Should we ban the river to the sea?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Offline


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 52815
At my desk.
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #2 - Today at 8:06am
 
No, I don't think it should be banned. It is a gross violation of freedom of speech.

You aren't going to stop people hating Jews by controlling what they are allowed to say in public. It is far better to actually know what is going on.
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Bobby.
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 117897
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #3 - Today at 8:13am
 

What if I said -

Israel should rule from the river to the sea?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 89987
Proud Old White Australian Man
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #4 - Today at 8:22am
 
It is a call for ethnic cleansing/genocide, enslavement and explusion of all who are not their brand of radical Islamists from the entire region currently owned by Israel and countless 'normal Arabs' who just want to get on with their lives, not to mention Christians and Christian Druze and so forth who they are trying to exterminate in Syria right now.

This claim is based on some myth that it was all 'their land' (sounds familiar somehow) because they never really did much with it after the Romans brutally expelled the previous owners... who - over many years starting way back - were BUYING land to farm etc from Arabs and turning it into a paradise compared to the dung heaps the Arabs lived in.

Arrest them for inciting genocide and mass murder etc - to work on the chain gangs Outback building the roads and rails for Canavan's Dream ....

Such insanity has no place in our civilised tribes.

Just on Facebot - in amongst the 'Epstein War' fantasists (as if anyone is distracted by bombing the Ayatollahs), there are raving Judeophobes preaching and praying for the extinction of Israel.

I'll take a bet - Gazans and IS will be gone long before Israel is, along with the Ayatollahs - who, of course, believe so implicitly in their own cause that they think dying is nothing.  I'll put my powerball win on it.

Keep up the bombing, boys and girls!  This war was inevitable.... now unleash the Kraken and stop stuffing about.

(Note:-  at the moment this is like watching your pet football team go through the motions until it finds its feet - big win today - next week down by fifty points - remember 1944 ... there's only one way to win)....
Back to top
 

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 89987
Proud Old White Australian Man
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #5 - Today at 8:25am
 
Bobby. wrote Today at 8:13am:
What if I said -

Israel should rule from the river to the sea?

Back to top
 


“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Offline


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 52815
At my desk.
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #6 - Today at 8:54am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Today at 8:22am:
It is a call for ethnic cleansing/genocide, enslavement and explusion of all who are not their brand of radical Islamists from the entire region currently owned by Israel and countless 'normal Arabs' who just want to get on with their lives, not to mention Christians and Christian Druze and so forth who they are trying to exterminate in Syria right now.


The problem is, it does not actually say that. It requires an identification of a 'victim', and it requires them to feel a certain way in response. You are allowed to say "from the river to the sea, palestine will be free' unless someone feels the wrong way about it.

The law will merely replace freedom of speech with ever more complex dog whistle politics.
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 89987
Proud Old White Australian Man
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #7 - Today at 9:20am
 
freediver wrote Today at 8:54am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Today at 8:22am:
It is a call for ethnic cleansing/genocide, enslavement and explusion of all who are not their brand of radical Islamists from the entire region currently owned by Israel and countless 'normal Arabs' who just want to get on with their lives, not to mention Christians and Christian Druze and so forth who they are trying to exterminate in Syria right now.


The problem is, it does not actually say that. It requires an identification of a 'victim', and it requires them to feel a certain way in response. You are allowed to say "from the river to the sea, palestine will be free' unless someone feels the wrong way about it.

The law will merely replace freedom of speech with ever more complex dog whistle politics.


Off gourse nod, Herr Obergruppenfuhrer .. zer  phrase 'final zolution' was intended to convey zer idea zat shippink all undesireables oud vass der answer!

Now then - globalise the intifada..... so the uprising against Israel and the West should be transferred to the world stage and prosecuted worldwide by useful idiots?  You're either with them or against them - and you know where that leads if THEY gain power.

Do these idiots actually realise that if they go for it - there will be a reaction?  Jeez - dopey sheilas - some chick was mumbling Marla-like with vapoured eyes about how go go about assassinating Trump... and you talk about freedom of speech and simple interaction of ideas as if all cultures are equal and reasonable   ... while you are talking peace they are talking mass murder.  While you are talking 'fair go' some Ayatollah is deciding that someone should be executed for blasphemy after being denounced, and if it is wrong Allah will set it right.... while you are marching for peace, they are marching for global war.
Back to top
 


“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs
Senior Member
****
Online


Australian Politics

Posts: 417
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #8 - Today at 9:48am
 
Past solders who gave their lives fighting for freedom must be turning in their graves.

Certain words and body movements now illegal in this country. It is shameful.



Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 89987
Proud Old White Australian Man
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #9 - Today at 10:02am
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote Today at 9:48am:
Past solders who gave their lives fighting for freedom must be turning in their graves.

Certain words and body movements now illegal in this country. It is shameful.





Past soldiers are arming up to go to Israel.  None are going to Iran ....
Back to top
 

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
Jasin
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 55888
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #10 - Today at 10:41am
 
Islam is failing
Israel is just filling the void
Back to top
 

AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
IP Logged
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs
Senior Member
****
Online


Australian Politics

Posts: 417
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #11 - Today at 12:29pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Today at 10:02am:
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote Today at 9:48am:
Past solders who gave their lives fighting for freedom must be turning in their graves.

Certain words and body movements now illegal in this country. It is shameful.





Past soldiers are arming up to go to Israel.  None are going to Iran ....



The solders who gave their lives in past wars fighting for freedom, now fight for Israel. Wow, ghost solders go BOO !



Australia orders all ‘non-essential’ officials to leave Israel, UAE
Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong has ordered all non-essential officials in Israel and the United Arab Emirates to leave due to the “deteriorating security situation”.

In a post on X on Thursday, Wong said that “essential Australian officials will remain in-country to support Australians who need it”.

The Australian government continued to advise that its citizens not travel to Israel and the UAE, she added.

“We urge you to leave the Middle East if you can and if it’s safe to do so,” she said. “Don’t wait until it’s too late. It may be the last chance for some time.”

Canberra has said there are about 115,000 Australian nationals across the Middle East, of whom about 2,600 have returned home.


It's illegal for the Israel's population to report on the massive damage occurring there. Reading between the lines, Israel's on the precipice of collapse. Once her last defences are gone, Iran sends in their biggest missiles.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
tallowood
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Израиль Навсегда

Posts: 7203
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #12 - Today at 12:56pm
 
Back to top
 

עַם יִשְרָאֵל חַי
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Offline


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 52815
At my desk.
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #13 - Today at 1:23pm
 
Quote:
The solders who gave their lives in past wars fighting for freedom, now fight for Israel. Wow, ghost solders go BOO !


Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth.
Back to top
 

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs
Senior Member
****
Online


Australian Politics

Posts: 417
Gender: male
Re: 'from the river to the sea' arrests in Brisbane
Reply #14 - Today at 1:34pm
 
Is it ?

Decades of Israel denying Palestinians the opportunity to vote their representation, so to keep Hamas in power.

Israel's hard right zionist mob is far from a beacon. It's a cancer.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print