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Reply #15 - Yesterday at 8:47pm
 

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 8:26pm:
So there are 27.6 million people in Australia and one one man
decided we were all at war with Iran?

No discussion - no vote - nothing.


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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 9:32pm
 
Jasin wrote Yesterday at 8:47pm:
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 8:26pm:
So there are 27.6 million people in Australia and one one man
decided we were all at war with Iran?

No discussion - no vote - nothing.


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I think it shows arrogance -

Albo should make his case in our democratic parliament
and they should all vote on it.
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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 10:03pm
 
Greens introduce Bill to require Parliament to vote before sending Australians to war   
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The Greens today will introduce a Bill that will require both Houses of Parliament to vote before the Australian Defence Force can be sent overseas to engage in warlike actions. Smiley   

War power reform bills have been proposed by the Greens for over 20 years, and have been routinely rejected by the Liberal and Labor parties. With Australia being sent into another illegal US war, without any democratic debate or input, the Greens today are reintroducing the Defence Amendment (Parliamentary Approval of Overseas Service) Bill, introduced by Senator Jordon Steele-John in 2020.

There is widespread community support for this reform, including a 2023 poll that found 90% of Australians support war powers reform, to enforce a Parliamentary vote before the deployment of troops.

The announcement from the Albanese Labor Government to send 85 military personnel, including an RAAF E-7A Wedgetail aircraft, to the Gulf and medium-range air-to-air missiles, into the conflict shows Australia has been fully dragged into another US forever war. This decision was made in a closed room by a handful of Labor cabinet members and zero parliamentary or public engagement or consent.

Senator Larissa Waters, Australian Greens leader said: “Labor’s Defence Minister finally revealed the truth last night about Donald Trump’s pressure for Australian deployment. Trump has been pressuring Australia to join his illegal war in the Middle East - it’s Trump calling the shots, and the Labor party is following.

“Albanese’s unquestioning support for Trump and Netenyahu’s illegal war shows why Australians deserve a say before their families are sent to war.

“Australians don’t want war. They weren’t asked if they back this illegal war. Parliament doesn’t get a say. Even the Labor backbench is reportedly unhappy. The only person that Albanese seems to listen to is Trump.

“We cannot allow a handful of the executives behind closed doors to take us to war, endangering civilians and putting Australian lives at risk whenever the US asks.
“Sending service members overseas without parliamentary approval risks unnecessary bloodshed. It undermines the accountability our veterans, their families and the people deserve.

“War will never deliver peace. Instead, civilians suffer, troops die, and the world becomes less stable. Parliament must be a counterweight to our government’s drive to appease Trump, Netanyahu, and others like them.

“The War Parties have fought against this because they know the public doesn’t want war - but the Green will keep pushing for this.”

Senator David Shoebridge, Greens spokesperson on Foreign Affairs, said: “Australia has joined another illegal US war, and the public got no say. That democratic failing is what this bill seeks to urgently address.

“We cannot have a handful of MPs from one of the war parties in the Commonwealth Parliament to send Australian troops into a string of US forever wars with no oversight and no public interest.

“Australians are outraged that after Iraq, after Afghanistan, the Australian military has been sent back to the Middle East as part of a US-Israeli illegal war. The Albanese Government has seen the decades of bloodshed and pain the US has caused across the Middle East, and signed us up for more.

“Australia’s defence and foreign policy elite are addicted to secrecy and hate the public having any say. AUKUS was decided in secret and AUKUS has driven us into this war. Democracy must not stop at the Foreign Minister's office.

“War will not help the Iranian people, it will cause untold pain across the region, make the world a more dangerous place and all done without the consent of the Australian people. It’s time that changed, and time democracy got a chance to save us from the next illegal US war.”
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The Wedgetail is a prime, high value target now -
what if it's shot down and all the crew are killed?
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whiteknight wrote Yesterday at 10:03pm:
Greens introduce Bill to require Parliament to vote before sending Australians to war
   
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The Greens today will introduce a Bill that will require both Houses of Parliament to vote before the Australian Defence Force can be sent overseas to engage in warlike actions. Smiley   




Good post sir Crook:

https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/greens-introduce-bill-require-parliamen...
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chimera wrote Yesterday at 7:28pm:
Number of non-Jewish people attacked by Iran in Australia:
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um  er


**snark** .. Oh - I see - you don't consider Jewish Australians at Bondi to be Australians - but rather Jewish exclusively?  So - by extension - every ethnic group remains that group and can never be Australians?  Once a Leb always a Leb ... once a Pom always a Pom ....

asking for a friend ....... I've made a point of calling the victims at Bondi Australians.... capisce?
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Reply #21 - Yesterday at 10:21pm
 
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 10:13pm:
The Wedgetail is a prime, high value target now -
what if it's shot down and all the crew are killed?


The Revolutionary Guard will be dust on the streets after the blasts ....
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Reply #22 - Yesterday at 10:31pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Yesterday at 10:21pm:
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 10:13pm:
The Wedgetail is a prime, high value target now -
what if it's shot down and all the crew are killed?


The Revolutionary Guard will be dust on the streets after the blasts ....



And we'll blame Albo.
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Reply #23 - Today at 6:49am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Yesterday at 10:19pm:
you don't consider Jewish Australians at Bondi to be Australians - but rather Jewish exclusively? 

Those are your words put into my mouth.
It's a fact they identify as Jews, were visited by Herzog for that reason, and displayed Israel flags at Hanukkah at Bondi.
So the govt has specific laws for anti-semitism and recognises the fact of being Semitic. Oz is not shooting farmers in West Bank and stealing their land, Israel is.
fact.
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Reply #24 - Today at 9:17am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Yesterday at 10:19pm:
chimera wrote Yesterday at 7:28pm:
Number of non-Jewish people attacked by Iran in Australia:
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um  er


**snark** .. Oh - I see - you don't consider Jewish Australians at Bondi to be Australians


Yes I agree they are Australian so we need a Royal Commission on Antisemitism?

Is it ok to hate anyone else or everyone else ?

What happened at Bondi was inexcusable but there is more to this than just Antisemitism. Antisemitism is an important part of the story but far from the whole story.
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Reply #25 - Today at 9:44am
 
Strangely, the meaning is lost.
'Semitic: relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.'

War with Gaza is anti-semitic. Iranian is not an Arabic language but their culture is and they use the Arab text.
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Reply #26 - Today at 9:54am
 
Would you prefer we called it Jew hating? Would that make you feel more comfortable with the label, in case people accidentally thought you hate all the other middle easterners?
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The only thing we have to fear is fear itself -
  "nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance".

President Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Reply #28 - Today at 10:14am
 
Well - some of we wiser folk long ago now went for Judeophobia... just to be specific.

I mean - look at the nonsense being bandied about that Trump - thus far not evidenced as having done any Lolita wrong - went to war with Iran to divert from the Epstein files - as if that would change.

Everybody is shouting for the full disclosures.... EVERYONE, including me... well maybe not smithy and mothra and kanga.... they seem to be caught in the bind of saying Mussos are all lovey-dovey, as per the official lne, and now they've shown their true colours....

The warning is out, BTW - about the activation of sleeper cells - and the use of bought proxy gangstahs ..... a little review of that bloke kidnapped recently might be in order.... and watch this space for some apparently odd crimes ...
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Reply #29 - Today at 10:24am
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote Yesterday at 8:37pm:
Conscription's around the corner ... employ all the unemployed coming from the roll out of Ai.

Earn your dole dying for Israel.


I like to see you doing that  Grin Grin Grin
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