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Reply #60 - Yesterday at 8:44am
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 7:34am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:06pm:
Gore said that if major ice sheets such as Greenland or West Antarctica collapsed, global sea level could rise about 20 feet (≈6 meters). 
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In the film he described a ~20-foot rise as a possible outcome from large-scale melting of those ice sheets and showed maps of what coastlines would look like. 


Do you disagree with either of those statements?

And where is this map that "everyone remembers" showing Florida copletely under water? Do you actually believe that, or are you just being a gullible climate "sceptic"? Is it hidden in the transcript?

Do you even remember it yourself, or did you just believe whatever idiotic slogans appear on your facebook feed?

lee wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:11pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:06pm:
What have I taken out of context in that example?


You have given only half a side of one equation and nothing of the other side. Roll Eyes


You are falling back on dribbling incoherently Lee, like a climate sceptic. What did I take out of context, and did it misrepresent what was said in any way?

lee wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:13pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:12pm:
you can pumped hydro to store solar power.



Provided you have the solar power at the time it is needed.  Timing is important in all things, motor vehicles etc. Wink


Yes Lee. Pumped Hydro is a type of battery. Welcome to the 21st century. Actually we had them early in the last century, to deal with the fact that coal fired power stations are not sufficiently dispatchable to match demand patterns.




Are you denying that gore, a man who almost got to the white house, made a film where he told the younger generations,  the impressionable Greta types that a 6 m sea level rise was something we must worry about and that it would cover most of Florida? Followed by a map of the coastline of Florida and Manhattan.

Are you denying that he was out by a factor of 1000.

Are you denying Tim flannery Australian of the year said the inland of Australia would become progressively drier over the next 2 decades.
2 decades which have been wetter.

Are you denying the ACT uses electricity made by fossil fuels at night as does south Australia and the lights would go out without coal and oil.

Are you denying China has energy generation that results in prices about 1/4 of Australia whilst building a new coal plant every fortnight.

I think you need a dose of climate scepticism  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #61 - Yesterday at 9:29am
 
I am sceptical. I am asking for the "map we all remember" that shows Florida completely under water by 2014. Where is it? Do you actually remember the map, or do you merely believe every idiotic claim that comes across your facebook feed?

Not sure what is so complicated about that. It seems like a simple enough question to me. Not something you need to spend pages and pages tapdancing around. It does not make you look any less gullible.

Here it is again:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.

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Reply #62 - Yesterday at 10:19am
 
Hi freediver.

How's the scepticism going.

Like you and karmal think the ACT is run fully by renewables.

Here's your map.

Scarey stuff if you are a gullible child like Greta
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Reply #63 - Yesterday at 10:23am
 
Is the green bit supposed to be under water in that map Scoot?

Can you point out the bit that says it is a prediction for 2014?

Or were you being just a little bit gullible?

Did you actually remember it yourself, or do you merely believe every idiotic claim that comes across your facebook feed?

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.
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Reply #64 - Yesterday at 11:45am
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 10:23am:
Is the green bit supposed to be under water in that map Scoot?

Can you point out the bit that says it is a prediction for 2014?

Or were you being just a little bit gullible?

Did you actually remember it yourself, or do you merely believe every idiotic claim that comes across your facebook feed?

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.



Hi there freediver. Do you think the claim that we might be facing a 6 m sea level rise was idiotic.

Do you just believe every idiotic claim

Do you think the ACT saying they are not using fossil fuels is idiotic.

Do you just believe every idiotic claim.

You are welcome to your truth.
As I say we live in a post truth world.
If the elites claiming sea level will rise _6metres helps them monetise climate change and make more cash by scaring stupid people, more power to them.
They are within their rights to rip off the useful idiots  Wink
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Reply #65 - Yesterday at 11:51am
 
Scoot, do you still believe that the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?

The only idiotic claims I see here come from you and the other climate "sceptics".
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Reply #66 - Yesterday at 12:34pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 11:51am:
The only idiotic claims I see here come from you and the other climate "sceptics".


So you believe renewables have a higher environmental cost that fossil fuels. Goodo. Wink
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Reply #67 - Yesterday at 12:39pm
 
How about you Lee. Do you believe the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?

lee wrote Yesterday at 12:34pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 11:51am:
The only idiotic claims I see here come from you and the other climate "sceptics".


So you believe renewables have a higher environmental cost that fossil fuels. Goodo. Wink


You are very easily convinced Lee. Gullible even.
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Reply #68 - Yesterday at 12:53pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:39pm:
You are very easily convinced Lee. Gullible even.


So you don't want to say either way, eh.?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #69 - Yesterday at 12:54pm
 
I want to point out the gullibility of clime 'sceptics'. Hence the thread title: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'

Do you also believe the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?
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Reply #70 - Yesterday at 1:00pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 7:34am:
Actually we had them early in the last century, to deal with the fact that coal fired power stations are not sufficiently dispatchable to match demand patterns.


Nope. we had them early in the last century but they were overtaken by fossil fuels. They were better at it. We didn't run out of water. Wink

They couldn't meet demand. And they don't now, they are a battery type, but they still only provide back up. Wink
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Reply #71 - Yesterday at 1:01pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:54pm:
I want to point out the gullibility of clime 'sceptics'. Hence the thread title: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'


And yet you haven't backed up your assertions with proof. Cool
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Reply #72 - Yesterday at 1:04pm
 
lee wrote Yesterday at 1:00pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 7:34am:
Yes Lee. Pumped Hydro is a type of battery. Welcome to the 21st century. Actually we had them early in the last century, to deal with the fact that coal fired power stations are not sufficiently dispatchable to match demand patterns.


Nope. we had them early in the last century but they were overtaken by fossil fuels. They were better at it. We didn't run out of water. Wink

They couldn't meet demand. And they don't now, they are a battery type, but they still only provide back up. Wink


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What powered the pumped hydro stations prior to fossil fuels Lee?

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And yet you haven't backed up your assertions with proof.


I present to you, this thread.

Do you also believe the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?
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Reply #73 - Yesterday at 1:10pm
 
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 8:44am:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 7:34am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:06pm:
Gore said that if major ice sheets such as Greenland or West Antarctica collapsed, global sea level could rise about 20 feet (≈6 meters). 
mediamatters.org +1
In the film he described a ~20-foot rise as a possible outcome from large-scale melting of those ice sheets and showed maps of what coastlines would look like. 


Do you disagree with either of those statements?

And where is this map that "everyone remembers" showing Florida copletely under water? Do you actually believe that, or are you just being a gullible climate "sceptic"? Is it hidden in the transcript?

Do you even remember it yourself, or did you just believe whatever idiotic slogans appear on your facebook feed?

lee wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:11pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:06pm:
What have I taken out of context in that example?


You have given only half a side of one equation and nothing of the other side. Roll Eyes


You are falling back on dribbling incoherently Lee, like a climate sceptic. What did I take out of context, and did it misrepresent what was said in any way?

lee wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:13pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:12pm:
you can pumped hydro to store solar power.



Provided you have the solar power at the time it is needed.  Timing is important in all things, motor vehicles etc. Wink


Yes Lee. Pumped Hydro is a type of battery. Welcome to the 21st century. Actually we had them early in the last century, to deal with the fact that coal fired power stations are not sufficiently dispatchable to match demand patterns.




Are you denying that gore, a man who almost got to the white house, made a film where he told the younger generations,  the impressionable Greta types that a 6 m sea level rise was something we must worry about and that it would cover most of Florida? Followed by a map of the coastline of Florida and Manhattan.

Are you denying that he was out by a factor of 1000.

Are you denying Tim flannery Australian of the year said the inland of Australia would become progressively drier over the next 2 decades.
2 decades which have been wetter.

Are you denying the ACT uses electricity made by fossil fuels at night as does south Australia and the lights would go out without coal and oil.

Are you denying China has energy generation that results in prices about 1/4 of Australia whilst building a new coal plant every fortnight.

I think you need a dose of climate scepticism  Cheesy Cheesy


No, dear, we're after your map of map of the coastline of Florida, which you've neglected to source.

Link, please.
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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #74 - Yesterday at 1:12pm
 
aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 10:19am:
Hi freediver.

How's the scepticism going.

Like you and karmal think the ACT is run fully by renewables.

Here's your map.

Scarey stuff if you are a gullible child like Greta


Sorry, when did Al Gore reference a postcard?

We'll need a time and date. Chop chop.
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