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Reply #195 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 9:57pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:41pm:
And in WA,Amber Jade Sanderson has said Labor will build a new gas plant. The only problem is they haven't even ordered the turbine, but expect it to be operational by 2030. And also they will keep the coalfired plant operational.

And there has only been 150MW of renewables built in the last 4 years. But by 2030 we'll be alright. Roll Eyes


So now you're down to arguing when the parts will arrive.

Would you say that if WA ordered a nice, new coal plant?

Why is the delivery of parts now a major new front in your culture wars?
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Reply #196 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 10:00pm
 
773040815/193#193">Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:38pm:
You've changed the goalposts so many times, you've forgotten what you came here to say in the first place.

And Aquascoot agrees with you.

The old boy's whittled his words down to one: bollocks.

He prefers Danish.

What's the bet he's got solar panels like you and Aquascoot?

Focus, paki, and not on the arse:



Primary energy is the best measure of how an economy actually runs because it counts all the fuels that power it, not just electricity generation. That matters because the things that keep the real economy moving, such as transport, mining and agriculture, run overwhelmingly on liquid fuels.

We do not have to guess at the numbers because they are reported by the government in Australian Energy Statistics under energy consumption.

“Fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) accounted for 91 per cent of Australia’s primary energy mix in 2023-24,” the government website says. “Oil accounted for the largest share of Australia’s primary energy mix in 2023-24 at 41 per cent, followed by coal and gas both at 25 per cent. Renewable energy sources accounted for 9 per cent.”


Focus.


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Reply #197 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 10:38pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 10:00pm:
773040815/193#193">Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:38pm:
You've changed the goalposts so many times, you've forgotten what you came here to say in the first place.

And Aquascoot agrees with you.

The old boy's whittled his words down to one: bollocks.

He prefers Danish.

What's the bet he's got solar panels like you and Aquascoot?

Focus, paki, and not on the arse:



Primary energy is the best measure of how an economy actually runs because it counts all the fuels that power it, not just electricity generation. That matters because the things that keep the real economy moving, such as transport, mining and agriculture, run overwhelmingly on liquid fuels.

We do not have to guess at the numbers because they are reported by the government in Australian Energy Statistics under energy consumption.

“Fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) accounted for 91 per cent of Australia’s primary energy mix in 2023-24,” the government website says. “Oil accounted for the largest share of Australia’s primary energy mix in 2023-24 at 41 per cent, followed by coal and gas both at 25 per cent. Renewable energy sources accounted for 9 per cent.”


Focus.




I see. So now you want to open up our cozy little chat on electricity to the rollout of trams, metro lines and electric vehicles too, is that right?

Or would you prefer to just discuss the concept of "primary energy" as a universal force?

That could work, no?
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Reply #198 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 7:28am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.


Can you show us the map Scoot?
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Reply #199 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 10:42am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 7:28am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.


Can you show us the map Scoot?


In another thread, Aquascoot's praising his millionaire daughter for her "resilience" and "being totally off grid".

I don't think he'll be showing any maps anytime soon, dear. Aquascoot's just having a giggle.

His latest is promoting the Great Reset, where those in cities die out, replaced by the "noble survivalist".

Not sure how they'll survive on a coal-powered energy network in Donnie's planned economic shutdown. Presumably Aquascoot daughter is saving her pennies to go back on the grid - or maybe jimmy her multi-million dollar Noosa property up with a wire or something.
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Reply #200 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 11:03am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:01pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 4:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 13th, 2026 at 7:28am:
You are confused Frank. Why are you recommending we waste our time listening to and reading him if you think he is so terrible? Should we all go out and buy a gas guzzler because Bowen annoys you?


He is in charge of energy policy.  He is an idiot, totally captured by the renewable zealotry of the rent-seekers and activists.

Listening to him, reading him and all the boosters for rapid energy transition and net zero in 10 year makes you realise that this is a rhetorical, torally unserious, deluded political project driven by economic illiterates. The boosters are sniffing the political wind and harvesting subsidies.

Meanwhile, the real world runs on anything but piss 'n wind, solar and pumped hydro.


81%, dear. Piss, wind and the fumes of potted herrings and blue-veined cheese.

One can never go back, no?

You'll have to be put in the ground.




Again, botty sniffer - focus.

Electricity is NOT primary energy.

Denmark's primary energy supply is a mix dominated by oil and bioenergy, though it is a global leader in wind energy. As of 2022–2023 data, petroleum products and bioenergy/waste each account for over 35% of the total energy supply, with wind, solar, and natural gas providing the remainder. Wind provides over 50% of electricity, but only ~10% of total energy demand.





Australia's primary energy consumption is heavily reliant on fossil fuels, which accounted for 91% of the energy mix in 2023–24. Oil holds the largest share at 41%, followed by coal and gas (approx. 25% each), while renewables account for 9%. Total energy consumption in 2023–24 was 5,977 petajoules, reflecting a 0.5% increase.


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Reply #201 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 11:26am
 
The climate cultists are become ever more irrational as more people wake up to the scam.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #202 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 11:44am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 10:42am:
freediver wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 7:28am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.


Can you show us the map Scoot?


In another thread, Aquascoot's praising his millionaire daughter for her "resilience" and "being totally off grid".

I don't think he'll be showing any maps anytime soon, dear. Aquascoot's just having a giggle.

His latest is promoting the Great Reset, where those in cities die out, replaced by the "noble survivalist".

Not sure how they'll survive on a coal-powered energy network in Donnie's planned economic shutdown. Presumably Aquascoot daughter is saving her pennies to go back on the grid - or maybe jimmy her multi-million dollar Noosa property up with a wire or something.



There is a point to making lots of money.
It's called independence.

I pity the welfare dependant chode who lives in a city.
He has probably been a taker all his life so he has zero resilience and zero skills.
Because he Is a taker , he probably had very few friends.
And he puts his faith in people like Biden, starmer,  Dan Andrews, scomo, albo  to " look after him ".

It's a tragic mistake.

I actually think you , karmal , are just as intelligent as those types of guys.
And , sorry, but I wouldn't trust you to feed my chooks.


We have built a very very fragile , supply chain dependant, lifestyle for urban folk which is unsustainable.


Work in the city where the cash is,

But  true peace of mind is learning to be independent.



The climate scam is just a way of fleecing the masses so rich dudes can buy estates in Idaho or new Zealand or Byron Bay.

Places where they will be safe from the chaos that is coming.

I see Iran is threatening cyber terrorism.
Imagine they shut down the grid or shut down banking services.

I wish you good luck with your naivety.
I shall remain independent,  stoic, resilient and  take personal responsibility if that's OK with you  Smiley
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Reply #203 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 12:08pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 9:57pm:
So now you're down to arguing when the parts will arrive.



Not at all. They haven't planned for more renewables either. Roll Eyes
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Reply #204 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 12:13pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:38pm:
You started saying renewable electricity doesn't exist in Australia, then you said it's not 75% in SA, then you said without subsidies and you can't rely on it and it'll never reach 100%, and on and on.



Actually, i never said anything about no renewables in Australia. But if you think so quote me. And you haven't shown anything for SA to be. You refute the government figures. Remember these are Labor government controlled entities You just can't trust the government anymore can you? So tell us why Variable Renewable Energy is supposed to remain constant at 73% (your figures)? Why doesn't it vary? Roll Eyes
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Reply #205 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 12:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 4:57pm:
Even the formulation 'climate sceptics' is an idiotic, mindless formulation, entirely rhetorical and proagandistic slofan of the Greta brigade. An equivalent to Bbwiyawnesque 'wacism' or 'islanophobia', caclulated entirely to NOT hear, not debate any dissenters ftom the Current Truth.






Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Energy Minister Chris Bowen and several other Labor MPs all accused Mr Canavan of being a climate change denialist.

However, the Queensland Senator told Sky News Sunday Agenda that his views had been misrepresented.

“Yes, there is an impact on the climate from higher amounts of carbon dioxide,” Mr Canavan said.  “My question here has also always been how significant that is and what we should do about it.”

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“Clearly anything that should be done about it has to be done at a global level. There's no point in Australia just taking action alone,” he said.

Mr Canavan was a large part of the push for the Coalition to scrap net zero, leading the push to dump net zero 2050 emissions targets.

Under the new policy, the Coalition will hope to reduce emissions "year on year" on average for every five-year period, as laid out in the Paris Agreement.

Reductions in emissions will be pursued "as fast and as far as technology allows" but only if they do not add extra costs on energy users.

The Coalition will also establish a "technology-neutral" energy approach, which will ensure no premature closure of coal plants and an increase in gas supply.



“The government is just doubling down on failure by continuing a renewable energy only approach, which is not working and we're not even going to achieve,” Mr Canavan said.

“We're saying, look, let's scrap all this net zero rubbish, let’s run our energy system with the primary goal in mind of delivering the lowest possible energy prices for Australians.  “That will lower their cost of living, that will improve living standards, improve productivity, and most importantly improve real wages.  It will get people, get more bang for their buck. For every hour they have to toil and sweat to provide for their families.”




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Reply #206 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 2:21pm
 
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Reply #207 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 4:16pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:38pm:
You started saying renewable electricity doesn't exist in Australia, then you said it's not 75% in SA...


From google AI

"South Australia reached a milestone where variable renewable energy (wind and solar) generated 73.3% of its electricity demand for the month of September 2020."

Oh one whole month? be still my beating heart. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

"Context - we the cultists don't need no stinkin' context". Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #208 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 5:32pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 4:16pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:38pm:
You started saying renewable electricity doesn't exist in Australia, then you said it's not 75% in SA...


From google AI

"South Australia reached a milestone where variable renewable energy (wind and solar) generated 73.3% of its electricity demand for the month of September 2020."

Oh one whole month? be still my beating heart. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

"Context - we the cultists don't need no stinkin' context". Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


1.7% less, eh?

Ooo!

Got a link to that one?
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Reply #209 - Mar 15th, 2026 at 5:39pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 11:44am:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 10:42am:
freediver wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 7:28am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:08pm:
We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.


Can you show us the map Scoot?


In another thread, Aquascoot's praising his millionaire daughter for her "resilience" and "being totally off grid".

I don't think he'll be showing any maps anytime soon, dear. Aquascoot's just having a giggle.

His latest is promoting the Great Reset, where those in cities die out, replaced by the "noble survivalist".

Not sure how they'll survive on a coal-powered energy network in Donnie's planned economic shutdown. Presumably Aquascoot daughter is saving her pennies to go back on the grid - or maybe jimmy her multi-million dollar Noosa property up with a wire or something.



There is a point to making lots of money.
It's called independence.

I pity the welfare dependant chode who lives in a city.
He has probably been a taker all his life so he has zero resilience and zero skills.
Because he Is a taker , he probably had very few friends.
And he puts his faith in people like Biden, starmer,  Dan Andrews, scomo, albo  to " look after him ".

It's a tragic mistake.

I actually think you , karmal , are just as intelligent as those types of guys.
And , sorry, but I wouldn't trust you to feed my chooks.


We have built a very very fragile , supply chain dependant, lifestyle for urban folk which is unsustainable.


Work in the city where the cash is,

But  true peace of mind is learning to be independent.



The climate scam is just a way of fleecing the masses so rich dudes can buy estates in Idaho or new Zealand or Byron Bay.

Places where they will be safe from the chaos that is coming.

I see Iran is threatening cyber terrorism.
Imagine they shut down the grid or shut down banking services.

I wish you good luck with your naivety.
I shall remain independent,  stoic, resilient and  take personal responsibility if that's OK with you  Smiley


Come come, you live in the outer suburbs of Brisbane. No chooks, no ponies, and on your roof are six cunning solar panels, the legacy of a previous government's power subsidies.

You're not adverse to a few perks yourself, dear.

Agrarian socialism, innit.
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