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Reply #180 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:47pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 2:27pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 13th, 2026 at 8:19pm:
I do. And in another year, South Australia is projected to reach 100%.


So not only are you gullible, but you expect 100% from renewables?

For SA-
BTW - According to google Ai - which you seem to prefer, there has only been the Goyder Wind Farm of 412MW added since 2024.

Also Solar Farms have only increased by 39MWp (peak) since 2024.

There has clearly not been enough new capacity added to reach 73%.

SA consumption is 120GWh daily. If each farm contributed 100% for one hour it wouldn't reach 120GWh.


SA hit 75% during 2023, dear. That year, the renewable energy world leader based in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen hit 67% - a country the old boy used to like.

South Australia is now leading the world in renewable energy. Its previous 100% target was 2030. The conditions for renewables are so good, SA has brought the target ahead to 2027, and do you know?

The sun shines just as bright in WA, which has similar ambitions. You'll be phasing out your coal-fired generators in 2030. WA's South West Interconnected System (SWIS) is all-systems go. This is really happening.

These are world-leading achievements all Australians should celebrate. 70% of us support the transition to renewable energy. It's smart, it's cheap and it's clean. We're united on this, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

So stop boring the members here with your mindless rebuttals and lies. You can't stop the transition anymore than you can stop the sun, the wind or the motion of the ocean.

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Reply #181 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:52pm
 
Oh dear karmal is way out in his calculations.

75% renewable he says  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


1. Total energy use in South Australia (all sectors)
When you count all energy, not just electricity:
Oil: 145.5 PJ
Natural gas: 92.5 PJ
Coal: 25.1 PJ
Renewables: 44.2 PJ
Total: ~311 PJ of energy. �
Energy & Mining
Share of total energy
Approximate percentages:
Energy source
Share
Oil (mostly transport fuels)
~47%
Natural gas
~30%
Coal
~8%
Renewables
~14%
So fossil fuels (oil + gas + coal) provide roughly:
≈ 85–86% of all energy used in South Australia.
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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #182 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:53pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:47pm:
lee wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 2:27pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 13th, 2026 at 8:19pm:
I do. And in another year, South Australia is projected to reach 100%.


So not only are you gullible, but you expect 100% from renewables?

For SA-
BTW - According to google Ai - which you seem to prefer, there has only been the Goyder Wind Farm of 412MW added since 2024.

Also Solar Farms have only increased by 39MWp (peak) since 2024.

There has clearly not been enough new capacity added to reach 73%.

SA consumption is 120GWh daily. If each farm contributed 100% for one hour it wouldn't reach 120GWh.


SA hit 75% during 2023, dear. That year, the renewable energy world leader based in wonderful wonderful Copenhagen hit 67% - a country the old boy used to like.

South Australia is now leading the world in renewable energy. Its previous 100% target was 2030. The conditions for renewables are so good, SA has brought the target ahead to 2027, and do you know?

The sun shines just as bright in WA, which has similar ambitions. You'll be phasing out your coal-fired generators in 2030. WA's South West Interconnected System (SWIS) is all-systems go. This is really happening.

These are world-leading achievements all Australians should celebrate. 70% of us support the transition to renewable energy. It's smart, it's cheap and it's clean. We're united on this, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

So stop boring the members here with your mindless rebuttals and lies. You can't stop the transition anymore than you can stop the sun, the wind or the motion of the ocean.



Bollocks.


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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #183 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:00pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:52pm:
Oh dear karmal is way out in his calculations.

75% renewable he says  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


1. Total energy use in South Australia (all sectors)
When you count all energy, not just electricity:
Oil: 145.5 PJ
Natural gas: 92.5 PJ
Coal: 25.1 PJ
Renewables: 44.2 PJ
Total: ~311 PJ of energy. �
Energy & Mining
Share of total energy
Approximate percentages:
Energy source
Share
Oil (mostly transport fuels)
~47%
Natural gas
~30%
Coal
~8%
Renewables
~14%
So fossil fuels (oil + gas + coal) provide roughly:
≈ 85–86% of all energy used in South Australia.



Indeed.
They are lying AND they know it. From Bowels down to paki arse merchants.

After 20 years of “transitioning”, what percentage of Australia’s total energy demand do you reckon comes from fossil fuels and how much from wind, solar, hydropower and the egregiously named biofuels?

Primary energy is the best measure of how an economy actually runs because it counts all the fuels that power it, not just electricity generation. That matters because the things that keep the real economy moving, such as transport, mining and agriculture, run overwhelmingly on liquid fuels.

We do not have to guess at the numbers because they are reported by the government in Australian Energy Statistics under energy consumption.

“Fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) accounted for 91 per cent of Australia’s primary energy mix in 2023-24,” the government website says. “Oil accounted for the largest share of Australia’s primary energy mix in 2023-24 at 41 per cent, followed by coal and gas both at 25 per cent. Renewable energy sources accounted for 9 per cent.”





But if you sniff arses and Bowels all your life you get a little a little woozey on the fumes, like the grimacing paki loon.




PRIMARY ENERGY. Dont forget it, Gretas.

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #184 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:01pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 4:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 13th, 2026 at 7:28am:
You are confused Frank. Why are you recommending we waste our time listening to and reading him if you think he is so terrible? Should we all go out and buy a gas guzzler because Bowen annoys you?


He is in charge of energy policy.  He is an idiot, totally captured by the renewable zealotry of the rent-seekers and activists.

Listening to him, reading him and all the boosters for rapid energy transition and net zero in 10 year makes you realise that this is a rhetorical, torally unserious, deluded political project driven by economic illiterates. The boosters are sniffing the political wind and harvesting subsidies.

Meanwhile, the real world runs on anything but piss 'n wind, solar and pumped hydro.


81%, dear. Piss, wind and the fumes of potted herrings and blue-veined cheese.

One can never go back, no?

You'll have to be put in the ground.

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Reply #185 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:02pm
 
Karnal should quit whilst he's behind


electricity price per kWh
Typical residential rates:
State
Average price
Queensland
~30–32 c/kWh
South Australia
~43–46 c/kWh
Sources comparing retail electricity plans show about 32.3 c/kWh in Queensland vs 43.6 c/kWh in South Australia. �
Canstar Blue
Another estimate gives:
Queensland: ~30.2 c/kWh
South Australia: ~45.5 c/kWh �
BLUETTI-AU
👉 That means SA electricity can be about 40–50% higher per unit of electricity.
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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #186 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:09pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:52pm:
Oh dear karmal is way out in his calculations.

75% renewable he says  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


1. Total energy use in South Australia (all sectors)
When you count all energy, not just electricity:
Oil: 145.5 PJ
Natural gas: 92.5 PJ
Coal: 25.1 PJ
Renewables: 44.2 PJ
Total: ~311 PJ of energy. �
Energy & Mining
Share of total energy
Approximate percentages:
Energy source
Share
Oil (mostly transport fuels)
~47%
Natural gas
~30%
Coal
~8%
Renewables
~14%
So fossil fuels (oil + gas + coal) provide roughly:
≈ 85–86% of all energy used in South Australia.


Drats. Foiled again by those pesky automobiles and gas stoves.

You forgot the old boy's farts, dear. If only we could put his putrid stench to good use, eh?

Chris Bowen should put the CSIRO onto it.
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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #187 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:10pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:02pm:
Karnal should quit whilst he's behind


electricity price per kWh
Typical residential rates:
State
Average price
Queensland
~30–32 c/kWh
South Australia
~43–46 c/kWh
Sources comparing retail electricity plans show about 32.3 c/kWh in Queensland vs 43.6 c/kWh in South Australia. �
Canstar Blue
Another estimate gives:
Queensland: ~30.2 c/kWh
South Australia: ~45.5 c/kWh �
BLUETTI-AU
👉 That means SA electricity can be about 40–50% higher per unit of electricity.


What do the little question marks mean?

Perhaps we should consult with our learned colleague from the pwestigious.

Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:53pm:
Bollocks.
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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #188 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:12pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:10pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:02pm:
Karnal should quit whilst he's behind


electricity price per kWh
Typical residential rates:
State
Average price
Queensland
~30–32 c/kWh
South Australia
~43–46 c/kWh
Sources comparing retail electricity plans show about 32.3 c/kWh in Queensland vs 43.6 c/kWh in South Australia. �
Canstar Blue
Another estimate gives:
Queensland: ~30.2 c/kWh
South Australia: ~45.5 c/kWh �
BLUETTI-AU
👉 That means SA electricity can be about 40–50% higher per unit of electricity.


What do the little question marks mean?

Oh well, I guess we'll never know.

You are lying.
We know it.
That's what they mean.

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #189 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:17pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:12pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:10pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:02pm:
Karnal should quit whilst he's behind


electricity price per kWh
Typical residential rates:
State
Average price
Queensland
~30–32 c/kWh
South Australia
~43–46 c/kWh
Sources comparing retail electricity plans show about 32.3 c/kWh in Queensland vs 43.6 c/kWh in South Australia. �
Canstar Blue
Another estimate gives:
Queensland: ~30.2 c/kWh
South Australia: ~45.5 c/kWh �
BLUETTI-AU
👉 That means SA electricity can be about 40–50% higher per unit of electricity.


What do the little question marks mean?

Oh well, I guess we'll never know.

You are lying.
We know it.
That's what they mean.



Liar liar pants-on, is it?

Do you have a source?
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Reply #190 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:21pm
 
Karmals got nothing.

40%  more expensive and provides 10% of the energy mix.

How gullible would you be to sign up for that  Cheesy
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Reply #191 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:35pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:47pm:
SA hit 75% during 2023, dear.


For how long?

Your link goes to another link from the IEA. There it says -

"Our analysis for South Australia – where VRE share reached 75% shows that hourly prices were negative about 25% of the time in 2023, up from 19% in 2022. This highlights the need for additional system flexibility in the form of more price-reactive demand and supply, as well as additional storage."

So Variable Renewable Energy meant that hourly prices were negative, so that if it weren't for subsidies, they would go broke. And it is VARIABLE, that means you can't rely on it. Of course the renewables also turn off (don't put in a bid) when the price is too low, that way they can game the system and claim higher subsidies.

So to get to 100%. some say there needs to be a 5 times overbuild, so 5 time 120GWh is 600GWh. And renewables are nowhere near that.

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:47pm:
South Australia is now leading the world in renewable energy. Its previous 100% target was 2030. The conditions for renewables are so good, SA has brought the target ahead to 2027, and do you know?


So 100% renewable by next year. We await with bated breath when they turn off the interconnectors, the diesel generators et al. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #192 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:25pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:21pm:
Karmals got nothing.

40%  more expensive and provides 10% of the energy mix.

How gullible would you be to sign up for that  Cheesy


You believe it. You haven't been able to disprove one fact we've posted here, and you know it.

What's the bet you use solar yourself?

Those rebates were irresistible, no?
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Reply #193 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:38pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 7:35pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:47pm:
SA hit 75% during 2023, dear.


For how long?

Your link goes to another link from the IEA. There it says -

"Our analysis for South Australia – where VRE share reached 75% shows that hourly prices were negative about 25% of the time in 2023, up from 19% in 2022. This highlights the need for additional system flexibility in the form of more price-reactive demand and supply, as well as additional storage."

So Variable Renewable Energy meant that hourly prices were negative, so that if it weren't for subsidies, they would go broke. And it is VARIABLE, that means you can't rely on it. Of course the renewables also turn off (don't put in a bid) when the price is too low, that way they can game the system and claim higher subsidies.

So to get to 100%. some say there needs to be a 5 times overbuild, so 5 time 120GWh is 600GWh. And renewables are nowhere near that.

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 14th, 2026 at 6:47pm:
South Australia is now leading the world in renewable energy. Its previous 100% target was 2030. The conditions for renewables are so good, SA has brought the target ahead to 2027, and do you know?


So 100% renewable by next year. We await with bated breath when they turn off the interconnectors, the diesel generators et al. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Some say that, Lee.

You started saying renewable electricity doesn't exist in Australia, then you said it's not 75% in SA, then you said without subsidies and you can't rely on it and it'll never reach 100%, and on and on.

You've changed the goalposts so many times, you've forgotten what you came here to say in the first place.

And Aquascoot agrees with you.

The old boy's whittled his words down to one: bollocks.

He prefers Danish.

What's the bet he's got solar panels like you and Aquascoot?
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Reply #194 - Mar 14th, 2026 at 8:41pm
 
And in WA,Amber Jade Sanderson has said Labor will build a new gas plant. The only problem is they haven't even ordered the turbine, but expect it to be operational by 2030. And also they will keep the coalfired plant operational.

And there has only been 150MW of renewables built in the last 4 years. But by 2030 we'll be alright. Roll Eyes
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