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Reply #90 - Yesterday at 7:12pm

Here are the key predictions from An Inconvenient Truth and subsequent, related comments that have not come true:
Ice-Free Arctic Summers (2013-2016): In a 2009 speech and similar remarks following the film, Gore cited research suggesting a 75% chance that the North Polar ice cap could be completely ice-free during summer months within ("five to seven years"by 2014-2016). Reality: Arctic summer sea ice did not disappear during that period, and while it is declining, it continues to exist.
"No More Snows of Kilimanjaro" (by 2016): The film claimed that within a decade (by roughly 2016), there would be no more snow on Mount Kilimanjaro. Reality: As of 2022, the mountain still has seasonal snow and glaciers
Rapid Sea Level Rise (20 feet): The film indicated that the melting of West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future" could cause sea levels to rise by 20 feet (6 meters). Reality: A 2007 UK court ruling identified this as "distinctly alarmist," noting that such melting would likely take place over millennia, not the near future.
Glacier National Park Glacier Disappearance (by 2020): The film implied that glaciers in Glacier National Park would be gone by 2020. Reality: While the glaciers have slightly reduced , they have not gone .
Increased Frequency of Extreme Hurricanes: Following the 2005 Katrina storm, the film suggested that global warming would lead to increasingly frequent and intense hurricanes. Reality: Studies in the decade following the film showed that the overall frequency of hurricanes did not increase significantly, although individual storms became more intense.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20146 Gender:	Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics' Reply #91 - Yesterday at 7:17pm Don't worry about karny. He believes the John Cook 97% mantra implicitly.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55861 Gender:	Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics' Reply #92 - Yesterday at 7:51pm So 6 out of the 20 major Renewables Enterprises that the ALP & Greens are allowing (and causing environmental damage to build their infrastructures) are FOREIGN OWNED and a 7th being half owned by CHINA and another. That leaves just 3 as Australian.
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Reply #93 - Yesterday at 8:51pm

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 7:12pm:

Here are the key predictions from An Inconvenient Truth and subsequent, related comments that have not come true:
Ice-Free Arctic Summers (2013-2016): In a 2009 speech and similar remarks following the film, Gore cited research suggesting a 75% chance that the North Polar ice cap could be completely ice-free during summer months within ("five to seven years"by 2014-2016). Reality: Arctic summer sea ice did not disappear during that period, and while it is declining, it continues to exist.
"No More Snows of Kilimanjaro" (by 2016): The film claimed that within a decade (by roughly 2016), there would be no more snow on Mount Kilimanjaro. Reality: As of 2022, the mountain still has seasonal snow and glaciers
Rapid Sea Level Rise (20 feet): The film indicated that the melting of West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future" could cause sea levels to rise by 20 feet (6 meters). Reality: A 2007 UK court ruling identified this as "distinctly alarmist," noting that such melting would likely take place over millennia, not the near future.
Glacier National Park Glacier Disappearance (by 2020): The film implied that glaciers in Glacier National Park would be gone by 2020. Reality: While the glaciers have slightly reduced , they have not gone .
Increased Frequency of Extreme Hurricanes: Following the 2005 Katrina storm, the film suggested that global warming would lead to increasingly frequent and intense hurricanes. Reality: Studies in the decade following the film showed that the overall frequency of hurricanes did not increase significantly, although individual storms became more intense.

You haven't even posted a source, you poor old thing.

Learned to use a highlighter, have you?

Did Lee show you that?

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #94 - Today at 5:25am

Melanias purse wrote Yesterday at 8:51pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 7:12pm:

Here are the key predictions from An Inconvenient Truth and subsequent, related comments that have not come true:
Ice-Free Arctic Summers (2013-2016): In a 2009 speech and similar remarks following the film, Gore cited research suggesting a 75% chance that the North Polar ice cap could be completely ice-free during summer months within ("five to seven years"by 2014-2016). Reality: Arctic summer sea ice did not disappear during that period, and while it is declining, it continues to exist.
"No More Snows of Kilimanjaro" (by 2016): The film claimed that within a decade (by roughly 2016), there would be no more snow on Mount Kilimanjaro. Reality: As of 2022, the mountain still has seasonal snow and glaciers
Rapid Sea Level Rise (20 feet): The film indicated that the melting of West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future" could cause sea levels to rise by 20 feet (6 meters). Reality: A 2007 UK court ruling identified this as "distinctly alarmist," noting that such melting would likely take place over millennia, not the near future.
Glacier National Park Glacier Disappearance (by 2020): The film implied that glaciers in Glacier National Park would be gone by 2020. Reality: While the glaciers have slightly reduced , they have not gone .
Increased Frequency of Extreme Hurricanes: Following the 2005 Katrina storm, the film suggested that global warming would lead to increasingly frequent and intense hurricanes. Reality: Studies in the decade following the film showed that the overall frequency of hurricanes did not increase significantly, although individual storms became more intense.

You haven't even posted a source, you poor old thing.

Learned to use a highlighter, have you?

Did Lee show you that?

Keep supporting the grifters if you want.

Gore owns 7 cars.

Elons made a fortune out of the green subsidies.

How is joe lunchbox going with the highest electricity prices in the world and petrol at record prices.

How's Germany going as they reopen brown coal sites to prevent freezing to death.

How's China going with a new coal powered plant every week so they can crush the competition.

How's useful idiots like you going pretending the ACT doesn't rely on fossil fuels at night.

Ever feel like the al gores of the world have got rich off creating anxiety in poopy pants worriers like yourself Cry

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #95 - Today at 8:04am

lee wrote Yesterday at 4:13pm:

freediver wrote Yesterday at 1:53pm:

What powered the pumped hydro stations prior to fossil fuels Lee?

I can't give a definitive answer. Perhaps you can tell us how the slaves carried it up the hill in buckets. Grin

But boilers burned wood to create steam, as well as coal. Wood is not a fossil fuel, but a precursor to fossil fuel. Wink

lee wrote Yesterday at 1:00pm:

freediver wrote Yesterday at 7:34am:

Yes Lee. Pumped Hydro is a type of battery. Welcome to the 21st century. Actually we had them early in the last century, to deal with the fact that coal fired power stations are not sufficiently dispatchable to match demand patterns.

Nope. we had them early in the last century but they were overtaken by fossil fuels. They were better at it. We didn't run out of water. Wink

They couldn't meet demand. And they don't now, they are a battery type, but they still only provide back up. Wink

So is you story that we used pumped hydro until we started burning coal instead of wood?

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #96 - Today at 8:05am

aquascoot wrote Today at 5:25am:

Melanias purse wrote Yesterday at 8:51pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 7:12pm:

Here are the key predictions from An Inconvenient Truth and subsequent, related comments that have not come true:
Ice-Free Arctic Summers (2013-2016): In a 2009 speech and similar remarks following the film, Gore cited research suggesting a 75% chance that the North Polar ice cap could be completely ice-free during summer months within ("five to seven years"by 2014-2016). Reality: Arctic summer sea ice did not disappear during that period, and while it is declining, it continues to exist.
"No More Snows of Kilimanjaro" (by 2016): The film claimed that within a decade (by roughly 2016), there would be no more snow on Mount Kilimanjaro. Reality: As of 2022, the mountain still has seasonal snow and glaciers
Rapid Sea Level Rise (20 feet): The film indicated that the melting of West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future" could cause sea levels to rise by 20 feet (6 meters). Reality: A 2007 UK court ruling identified this as "distinctly alarmist," noting that such melting would likely take place over millennia, not the near future.
Glacier National Park Glacier Disappearance (by 2020): The film implied that glaciers in Glacier National Park would be gone by 2020. Reality: While the glaciers have slightly reduced , they have not gone .
Increased Frequency of Extreme Hurricanes: Following the 2005 Katrina storm, the film suggested that global warming would lead to increasingly frequent and intense hurricanes. Reality: Studies in the decade following the film showed that the overall frequency of hurricanes did not increase significantly, although individual storms became more intense.

You haven't even posted a source, you poor old thing.

Learned to use a highlighter, have you?

Did Lee show you that?

Keep supporting the grifters if you want.

Gore owns 7 cars.

Elons made a fortune out of the green subsidies.

How is joe lunchbox going with the highest electricity prices in the world and petrol at record prices.

How's Germany going as they reopen brown coal sites to prevent freezing to death.

How's China going with a new coal powered plant every week so they can crush the competition.

How's useful idiots like you going pretending the ACT doesn't rely on fossil fuels at night.

Ever feel like the al gores of the world have got rich off creating anxiety in poopy pants worriers like yourself Cry

Back to your claim, can you quote Al Gore's Florida predictions, or would you like us to?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #97 - Today at 8:06am

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 4:48pm:

freediver wrote Yesterday at 11:51am:

Scoot, do you still believe that the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?

The only idiotic claims I see here come from you and the other climate "sceptics".

6metres which is a figure gore used in the movie would certainly see the entirety of miami and Manhattan under water.

A smart move.

It helped monetize the grift.

Many useless idiots brought into the bullshit Wink

Do you still believe that the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 6:27pm:

You freediver and gweg are such pedants.

No Scoot, you and the other climate "sceptics" keep posting incredibly stupid claims. It took me several posts just to list all the stupid things you said in one thread. Just to list them, not to respond. It's like you can barely stop to breath before moving onto the next idiotic claim. You never stop to think whether what you say is true, or even plausible. You just keep dribbling away, and think you are doing us all a favour by giving is a river of drool to wade through in every discussion. And we point out how stupid everything you say is, but you just ignore it and move onto the next stupid thing. And eventually you come back and repeat claims that have been well and truly demonstrated are completely wrong.

But now you want us to ignore the absence of any truth to what you say and focus on the feeling behind it. Like some stoned hippy. Yet we are 7 pages into this thread and you have still not addressed a single claim. In fact you have come up with more stupidity. But it was polite of you to put your idiocy in a thread devoted to highlighting it. It is not pedantry. You are just full of crap. And here it is for you.

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #98 - Today at 8:28am

Melanias purse wrote Today at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote Today at 5:25am:

Melanias purse wrote Yesterday at 8:51pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 7:12pm:

Here are the key predictions from An Inconvenient Truth and subsequent, related comments that have not come true:
Ice-Free Arctic Summers (2013-2016): In a 2009 speech and similar remarks following the film, Gore cited research suggesting a 75% chance that the North Polar ice cap could be completely ice-free during summer months within ("five to seven years"by 2014-2016). Reality: Arctic summer sea ice did not disappear during that period, and while it is declining, it continues to exist.
"No More Snows of Kilimanjaro" (by 2016): The film claimed that within a decade (by roughly 2016), there would be no more snow on Mount Kilimanjaro. Reality: As of 2022, the mountain still has seasonal snow and glaciers
Rapid Sea Level Rise (20 feet): The film indicated that the melting of West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future" could cause sea levels to rise by 20 feet (6 meters). Reality: A 2007 UK court ruling identified this as "distinctly alarmist," noting that such melting would likely take place over millennia, not the near future.
Glacier National Park Glacier Disappearance (by 2020): The film implied that glaciers in Glacier National Park would be gone by 2020. Reality: While the glaciers have slightly reduced , they have not gone .
Increased Frequency of Extreme Hurricanes: Following the 2005 Katrina storm, the film suggested that global warming would lead to increasingly frequent and intense hurricanes. Reality: Studies in the decade following the film showed that the overall frequency of hurricanes did not increase significantly, although individual storms became more intense.

You haven't even posted a source, you poor old thing.

Learned to use a highlighter, have you?

Did Lee show you that?

Keep supporting the grifters if you want.

Gore owns 7 cars.

Elons made a fortune out of the green subsidies.

How is joe lunchbox going with the highest electricity prices in the world and petrol at record prices.

How's Germany going as they reopen brown coal sites to prevent freezing to death.

How's China going with a new coal powered plant every week so they can crush the competition.

How's useful idiots like you going pretending the ACT doesn't rely on fossil fuels at night.

Ever feel like the al gores of the world have got rich off creating anxiety in poopy pants worriers like yourself Cry

Back to your claim, can you quote Al Gore's Florida predictions, or would you like us to?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Sure.

He said Miami would be underwater.

It's not

He lied to perpetuate the grift Grin

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #99 - Today at 8:33am

freediver wrote Today at 8:06am:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 4:48pm:

freediver wrote Yesterday at 11:51am:

Scoot, do you still believe that the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?

The only idiotic claims I see here come from you and the other climate "sceptics".

6metres which is a figure gore used in the movie would certainly see the entirety of miami and Manhattan under water.

A smart move.

It helped monetize the grift.

Many useless idiots brought into the bullshit Wink

Do you still believe that the map shows Florida completely underwater by 2014?

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 6:27pm:

You freediver and gweg are such pedants.

No Scoot, you and the other climate "sceptics" keep posting incredibly stupid claims. It took me several posts just to list all the stupid things you said in one thread. Just to list them, not to respond. It's like you can barely stop to breath before moving onto the next idiotic claim. You never stop to think whether what you say is true, or even plausible. You just keep dribbling away, and think you are doing us all a favour by giving is a river of drool to wade through in every discussion. And we point out how stupid everything you say is, but you just ignore it and move onto the next stupid thing. And eventually you come back and repeat claims that have been well and truly demonstrated are completely wrong.

But now you want us to ignore the absence of any truth to what you say and focus on the feeling behind it. Like some stoned hippy. Yet we are 7 pages into this thread and you have still not addressed a single claim. In fact you have come up with more stupidity. But it was polite of you to put your idiocy in a thread devoted to highlighting it. It is not pedantry. You are just full of crap. And here it is for you.

My correct analysis seems to be triggering you

Do you think the ACT is energy self sufficient ?

Is Miami under water as shown in the al gore flood map

Is everyone driving an EV unconcerned about the price of petrol.

Is Germany really recommissioning coal fired power plants.

Do tell me where the drivel is.

It all seems to be coming from those who believed the grifters Grin

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Reply #100 - Today at 8:40am

I see a lot of tapdancing from you Scoot, but not a single straight answer. Do you think that makes you look less gullible?

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10^th, 2026 at 1:08pm:

We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.

Do you still believe this claim? Or any part of it? It is the one you chose to hang your hat on, out of all the idiotic claims of your I quoted here.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57231 Gender:	Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics' Reply #101 - Today at 9:01am Gullible= easily persuaded to believe something; credulous Sceptical = not easily convinced; having doubts or reservations You havent thought this through, fd.
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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #102 - Today at 9:11am

aquascoot wrote Today at 8:28am:

Melanias purse wrote Today at 8:05am:

aquascoot wrote Today at 5:25am:

Melanias purse wrote Yesterday at 8:51pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 7:12pm:

Here are the key predictions from An Inconvenient Truth and subsequent, related comments that have not come true:
Ice-Free Arctic Summers (2013-2016): In a 2009 speech and similar remarks following the film, Gore cited research suggesting a 75% chance that the North Polar ice cap could be completely ice-free during summer months within ("five to seven years"by 2014-2016). Reality: Arctic summer sea ice did not disappear during that period, and while it is declining, it continues to exist.
"No More Snows of Kilimanjaro" (by 2016): The film claimed that within a decade (by roughly 2016), there would be no more snow on Mount Kilimanjaro. Reality: As of 2022, the mountain still has seasonal snow and glaciers
Rapid Sea Level Rise (20 feet): The film indicated that the melting of West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future" could cause sea levels to rise by 20 feet (6 meters). Reality: A 2007 UK court ruling identified this as "distinctly alarmist," noting that such melting would likely take place over millennia, not the near future.
Glacier National Park Glacier Disappearance (by 2020): The film implied that glaciers in Glacier National Park would be gone by 2020. Reality: While the glaciers have slightly reduced , they have not gone .
Increased Frequency of Extreme Hurricanes: Following the 2005 Katrina storm, the film suggested that global warming would lead to increasingly frequent and intense hurricanes. Reality: Studies in the decade following the film showed that the overall frequency of hurricanes did not increase significantly, although individual storms became more intense.

You haven't even posted a source, you poor old thing.

Learned to use a highlighter, have you?

Did Lee show you that?

Keep supporting the grifters if you want.

Gore owns 7 cars.

Elons made a fortune out of the green subsidies.

How is joe lunchbox going with the highest electricity prices in the world and petrol at record prices.

How's Germany going as they reopen brown coal sites to prevent freezing to death.

How's China going with a new coal powered plant every week so they can crush the competition.

How's useful idiots like you going pretending the ACT doesn't rely on fossil fuels at night.

Ever feel like the al gores of the world have got rich off creating anxiety in poopy pants worriers like yourself Cry

Back to your claim, can you quote Al Gore's Florida predictions, or would you like us to?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Sure.

He said Miami would be underwater.

It's not

He lied to perpetuate the grift Grin

Right. So before I do your job for you, kindly confirm your position that Al Gore predicted Miami would be 20 feet underwater by 2014.

We'll then check what Al Gore actually said.

Cheers.

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Re: the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'
Reply #103 - Today at 9:17am

Frank wrote Today at 9:01am:

Gullible= easily persuaded to believe something; credulous

Sceptical = not easily convinced; having doubts or reservations

You havent thought this through, fd.

Just so. You're skeptical that the ACT is powered by a solar farm, is that so?

The Mugga Lane Solar Park might just be a large plastic prop, I guess we'll never know.

The jury's still out on that one, no?

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Reply #104 - Today at 9:34am

freediver wrote Today at 8:40am:

I see a lot of tapdancing from you Scoot, but not a single straight answer. Do you think that makes you look less gullible?

aquascoot wrote on Mar 10^th, 2026 at 1:08pm:

We all remember al gores map of florida , completely under water by 2014.

Do you still believe this claim? Or any part of it? It is the one you chose to hang your hat on, out of all the idiotic claims of your I quoted here.

Have you seen an inconvenient truth.

Educate yourself

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