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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #60 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #61 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:00pm

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

Just how do they surrender to a submerged submarine, that they didn't know was there?
Another trump apologist with half a brain.
Given that the US was also in agreement with the conditions of the navel exercise the Iranians attended and which the US had already agreed to the same conditions before they pulled out of the exercise, the US was aware the ship was unarmed .

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #62 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:05pm

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

That's a question.

Would you bomb a girl's school, then kill their parents who race in to help?

Would you pop 12 caps of lead into an innocent civilian you had just maced and disarmed?

Would you bomb survivors at sea, clinging to an overturned vessel?

They're questions too. Are you up for an answer?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57243 Gender:	Re: Death Toll Under Trump Reply #63 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:08pm Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:05pm: They're questions too. Are you up for an answer? What have you done to Littleproud?? He's been complaining.
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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #64 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:08pm

scope wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:00pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

Just how do they surrender to a submerged submarine, that they didn't know was there?
Another trump apologist with half a brain.
Given that the US was also in agreement with the conditions of the navel exercise the Iranians attended and which the US had already agreed to the same conditions before they pulled out of the exercise, the US was aware the ship was unarmed .

Are you saying that commander of military ship of country at war was incompetent?
That proves that you are brainless idiot.

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #65 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:11pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:05pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

That's a question.

Would you bomb a girl's school, then kill their parents who race in to help?

Would you pop 12 caps of lead into an innocent civilian you had just maced and disarmed?

Would you bomb survivors at sea, clinging to an overturned vessel?

They're questions too. Are you up for an answer?

Why do you hate girls, is it because you are a poof?
That is a question too. Are you up for an answer?

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #66 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:27pm

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Death Toll Under Trump

Now Now you need to put it in context.

Trump put at least 3/4 million in the ground in his first term possibly over a million. This term isn't much at all in comparison. Year sure he has many programs that have killed many people but mostly it is just a couple a thousand here and there. Sometimes a bit less.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20161 Gender:	Re: Death Toll Under Trump Reply #67 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:42pm Dnarever wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:27pm: Trump put at least 3/4 million in the ground in his first term possibly over a million. Did he? personally?
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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #68 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 2:39pm

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:11pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:05pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

That's a question.

Would you bomb a girl's school, then kill their parents who race in to help?

Would you pop 12 caps of lead into an innocent civilian you had just maced and disarmed?

Would you bomb survivors at sea, clinging to an overturned vessel?

They're questions too. Are you up for an answer?

Why do you hate girls, is it because you are a poof?
That is a question too. Are you up for an answer?

That's not a question, Tallow.

Do you refuse to answer?

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #69 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 2:54pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 2:39pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:11pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:05pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

That's a question.

Would you bomb a girl's school, then kill their parents who race in to help?

Would you pop 12 caps of lead into an innocent civilian you had just maced and disarmed?

Would you bomb survivors at sea, clinging to an overturned vessel?

They're questions too. Are you up for an answer?

Why do you hate girls, is it because you are a poof?
That is a question too. Are you up for an answer?

That's not a question, Tallow.

Do you refuse to answer?

It is a question, Karnal.
Why do you refuse to answer?

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #72 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 3:22pm

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 2:54pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 2:39pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:11pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:05pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

That's a question.

Would you bomb a girl's school, then kill their parents who race in to help?

Would you pop 12 caps of lead into an innocent civilian you had just maced and disarmed?

Would you bomb survivors at sea, clinging to an overturned vessel?

They're questions too. Are you up for an answer?

Why do you hate girls, is it because you are a poof?
That is a question too. Are you up for an answer?

That's not a question, Tallow.

Do you refuse to answer?

It is a question, Karnal.
Why do you refuse to answer?

FD? Put this one on the jellyfish list, please. He's refusing to answer a specific question and appears to be a Russian bot.

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #73 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 3:31pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 3:22pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 2:54pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 2:39pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:11pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:05pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 12:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 11:00am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Apparently it had women & children instead of ammunition

No, it had unarmed, trainee sailors onboard and was operating in a noncombat role.

Enemy warships and naval auxiliaries, whether manned or unmanned, are military objectives by nature that may be targeted anywhere and at any time (so long as they are not present in neutral waters). The definite military advantage gained from sinking an enemy warship will be self-evident in any campaign in the maritime domain. Warships and naval auxiliaries may be targeted regardless of the composition of the crew or passengers on board.

A narrow exception to this rule exists for a warship “that in good faith unambiguously and effectively conveys a timely offer of surrender,” for instance, by hauling down her flag, hoisting a white flag, taking to the lifeboats (NWP 1-14M, § 8.6.1; Newport Manual, § 8.6.7.1). There is no indication that the Dena expressed a desire to surrender.

Attacking unarmed people is a cowardly act.

So, coming from Trump & Hegseth, it's not surprising at all.

They have form with this sort of thing.

Innocent school children, innocent American citizens, innocent fishermen - all unarmed.

They have no problem slaughtering them.

Violent, sociopathic megalomaniacs.

Would you surrender and save life of your crew if you were commander of the Iranian ship?

That's a question.

Would you bomb a girl's school, then kill their parents who race in to help?

Would you pop 12 caps of lead into an innocent civilian you had just maced and disarmed?

Would you bomb survivors at sea, clinging to an overturned vessel?

They're questions too. Are you up for an answer?

Why do you hate girls, is it because you are a poof?
That is a question too. Are you up for an answer?

That's not a question, Tallow.

Do you refuse to answer?

It is a question, Karnal.
Why do you refuse to answer?

FD? Put this one on the jellyfish list, please. He's refusing to answer a specific question and appears to be a Russian bot.

FD? Put Karnal on the jellyfish list, please. He's refusing to answer a specific question and appears to be a Jihadi bot.

Karnal, are you going to answer the question or does Quran prohibit you from answering?

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Re: Death Toll Under Trump
Reply #74 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 3:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

lee wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 11^th, 2026 at 1:27pm:

Trump put at least 3/4 million in the ground in his first term possibly over a million.

Did he? personally?

Yes.

His policies were 100% to blame.

The US experienced the highest covid death toll in the world - more than India, more than Chi-na. The only world leader to refuse to wear face masks, even when he debated his political opponent after being diagnosed with covid himself, and lying about it.

He encouraged attendees at his political rallies to go maskless, ignored social distancing guidelines at venues, and turned the White House into a covid hotspot, leading to the death of at least six visitors, including his own brother.

It wasn't only his policies, dear. His own actions violated multiple state health regulations. In any normal country, he would have been charged, fined and/or forced out of office, as Britain's PM experienced.

The US death toll was a metaphor for how he ran his own presidency: the nepotism of Operation Warp Speed, the mismanagement and politicization of disaster funds, the inane health advice and lies.

He topped it all off by attempting an insurrection and spreading covid through the US Capitol, putting the entire legislative branch at risk.

Oh yes, he was 100% to blame alright.

The US rewarded him by erecting him prez.

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