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Reply #15 - Mar 6^th, 2026 at 3:21pm

freediver wrote on Mar 6^th, 2026 at 2:56pm:

I see that was far too complicated and went way over your head. Instead of trying to explain why you think their views are moderate, can you start by explaining what specific views of theirs you are talking about?

Well, noting you are apparently too dimwitted to actually address the points I made in the post to which you imagined you were replying, ie religious extremists, unlike moderates, are capable of murder for their religion; I will nevertheless address your question re "specific views".

...but I have already told you: extremists view every word of gospel.... as 'gospel', and can decide to act on those views (based on scriptural literalism), especially if "infidels" - arbitrarily in their eyes - confiscate muslim land, or attack/disrespect the Koran.

Meanwhile violent, murderous, Jewish extremist nut-jobs are relishing it all, laughing at the international community which does nothing to stop the expanding illegal settlements in E. Jerusalem and the WB.

Deplorable.

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Reply #16 - Mar 6^th, 2026 at 3:52pm

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I will nevertheless address your question re "specific views".

I am waiting. What are they?

When you declare Husic and Aly to be moderates, do you make this pronouncement on the basis that you have no clue at all what their views actually are, so you fill in all the gaps in your knowledge with little fantasies, just like the ABC does when it gives millions of dollars in taxpayer funds to Islamic groups?

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Reply #17 - Mar 8^th, 2026 at 3:17pm

freediver wrote on Mar 6^th, 2026 at 3:52pm:

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I will nevertheless address your question re "specific views".

I am waiting. What are they?

When you declare Husic and Aly to be moderates, ...

Along with the Islamic Gulf Arab states who are prepared to "live and let live" , rather than get bogged down in scriptural literalism.

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... do you make this pronouncement on the basis that you have no clue at all what their views actually are

Their views are patently based on "live and let live", because that's what they practice; whats your problem?

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so you fill in all the gaps in your knowledge with little fantasies, just like the ABC does when it gives millions of dollars in taxpayer funds to Islamic groups?

Wrong on all counts, as already addressed above.

(and the Oz government, not the ABC, funded a grant to an Islamic group.)

At least you previously seemed to concede - because you couldn't defend your view - the fact that the UN-enabled confiscation of Muslim land to create Israel is THE major cause of Islamic terrorism in the world today.

But now, moderate Muslims are prepared to live with a 2-state solution.

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Reply #18 - Mar 8^th, 2026 at 3:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 8^th, 2026 at 3:17pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 6^th, 2026 at 3:52pm:

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I will nevertheless address your question re "specific views".

I am waiting. What are they?

When you declare Husic and Aly to be moderates, ...

Along with the Islamic Gulf Arab states who are prepared to "live and let live" , rather than get bogged down in scriptural literalism.

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... do you make this pronouncement on the basis that you have no clue at all what their views actually are

Their views are patently based on "live and let live", because that's what they practice; whats your problem?

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2026 at 9:39am:

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Another important distinction highlighted in the literature is the difference between deradicalisation and disengagement. Deradicalisation implies a genuine transformation in beliefs and ideology, whereas disengagement refers only to the cessation of violent activities. Many scholars argue that most rehabilitation programs achieve disengagement rather than true ideological change (Horgan, 2009). Participants may refrain from violence because of legal supervision, employment opportunities, or family influence while still privately maintaining extremist views. This distinction is critical because individuals who remain ideologically radicalized may continue to support extremist causes indirectly or potentially return to violent activity in the future.

Very good point.

In fact, the difference between the 'vast majority' and 'small minority' of Muslims everywhere.

Also, lying is baked into Islam. It's one of it's Pillars, like pedophilia and jihad.

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Re: Islamic community group Taha Humanity Association'
Reply #19 - Mar 8^th, 2026 at 3:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 8^th, 2026 at 3:17pm:

Their views are patently based on "live and let live", because that's what they practice; whats your problem?

Your naivete. Are you saying that when you reassure people that specific Muslims believe whatever it is you want to project onto them, you do so out of complete ignorance of what any of their actual views are?

Do you realise that is pretty much a textbook definition of "useful idiot"?

Do you think the ALP is equally naive when it hands out millions of dollars to Islamic groups?

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Reply #20 - Mar 11^th, 2026 at 6:51pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

Cleric's fatwa to avenge Khamenei prompts fears of sleeper cell and lone wolf attacks

That cleric is an extremist.

TEHRAN — Amid rumors that the newly chosen Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei had been injured in an airstrike, the Iranian regime issued a statement 55 the U.S. that it had a huge stockpile of supreme leaders.

The embattled Islamic government has suffered repeated losses to its high-level leadership over the last 10 days, but despite U.S. assertions that the conflict was nearing its end, a spokesman for the regime said on Tuesday that it had secretly spent the last several years working behind the scenes to enrich raw mullahs into weapons-grade supreme leaders.

"We have enough ayatollahs to last a century," said the official spokesman for the Islamic Republic of Iran. "We have been stockpiling them for quite some time, and they are safely stored in a hidden location. Your bombs cannot get to them. We have been saving them for such a time as this, and will not hesitate to deploy them. You have been warned."

Though the U.S. and Israel had successfully eliminated the previous ayatollah and several high-ranking military leaders, reports indicated that there may be vast, underground storage facilities where large numbers of robed Muslim clerics in turbans were stacked on top of each other. "Few know just how large their supply of supreme leaders truly is," one insider said. "They've been producing them and saving them for years. It's terrifying."

At publishing time, new reports indicated that U.S. special forces had been deployed to locate and seize control of Iran's supreme leader stockpile.

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Re: Islamic community group Taha Humanity Association'
Reply #21 - Mar 12^th, 2026 at 8:50am

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2026 at 3:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 8^th, 2026 at 3:17pm:

Their views are patently based on "live and let live", because that's what they practice; whats your problem?

Your naivete. Are you saying that when you reassure people that specific Muslims believe whatever it is you want to project onto them, you do so out of complete ignorance of what any of their actual views are?

Do you realise that is pretty much a textbook definition of "useful idiot"?

Do you think the ALP is equally naive when it hands out millions of dollars to Islamic groups?

TGD, do you know anything at all about what Husic and Aly actually believe? Anything that is not just one of your views projected onto them?

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 55927 Gender:	Re: Islamic community group Taha Humanity Association' Reply #22 - Mar 12^th, 2026 at 9:24am I'm surprised they haven't chosen a boy as the next target 🎯... er, I mean Leader.
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