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Question: How high fuel price have to become before Australians would make Australian oil stay in Australia?

$3 per litre    
  3 (37.5%)
$4 per litre    
  1 (12.5%)
$5 per litre    
  1 (12.5%)
$6 per litre    
  0 (0.0%)
$7 per litre    
  1 (12.5%)
$8 per litre    
  0 (0.0%)
$9 per litre    
  1 (12.5%)
never    
  1 (12.5%)




Total votes: 8
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Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:03pm
 

Channel 7 news just reported petrol could soon hit $3 per litre.



The ABC says:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-04/petrol-prices-surge-across-australia-serv...

In short:

People are being urged not to panic buy petrol, as prices surge amid the Middle East war.

Long queues of cars are lining streets around petrol stations across the country, with warnings the price per litre could rise by 40c in coming weeks.

What's next?
Authorities say there is a steady supply of fuel in Australia, with fuel companies accused of taking advantage of people's anxieties by hiking prices.



Petrol retailers across the nation are being accused of "unconscionable" behaviour by preying on people's anxieties as fuel prices surge in the midst of the Middle East war.

Economists are warning Australian petrol prices could rise by 40 cents a litre in coming weeks as the conflict in the Middle East escalates, disrupting the flow of crude oil through the Strait of Hormuz.

In Perth, thousands of motorists across the city lined up along streets to get fuel last night, the cheapest day in the city's weekly fuel price cycle.

Many fuel stations across the city are selling fuel well above $2 per litre today, higher than than the daily average of 188.7 and the February average of 164.5c.
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Reply #1 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:15pm
 
It's kind of hard to stock up on petrol.
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Reply #2 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:15pm:
It's kind of hard to stock up on petrol.



You need Jerry cans and a safe place to store it.


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Reply #3 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:19pm
 
I wouldn't put petrol stored in a jerry can for a significant period of time in your car.
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Reply #4 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:25pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:19pm:
I wouldn't put petrol stored in a jerry can for a significant period of time in your car.



That's true - petrol goes stale in about 2 months as
the lighter hydrocarbons boil off.

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Reply #5 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:33pm
 
Next - panic buying toilet paper... Tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:25pm:
That's true - petrol goes stale in about 2 months as
the lighter hydrocarbons boil off.



It depends on the seal.
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lee wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:25pm:
That's true - petrol goes stale in about 2 months as
the lighter hydrocarbons boil off.



It depends on the seal.



And if you are silly enough to put the Jerry can in the hot sun.

The cans don't have perfect seals.
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Reply #8 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 6:06pm
 
Horses and rickshaws will come back.
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Reply #9 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 6:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:59pm:
And if you are silly enough to put the Jerry can in the hot sun.

The cans don't have perfect seals.


Ah well there are numpties among us. Wink
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Reply #10 - Mar 4th, 2026 at 6:51pm
 
I hope it reaches $20❗
It will be like COVID Lockdown with no-one on the roads. Cheesy
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Reply #11 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 8:11am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:15pm:
It's kind of hard to stock up on petrol.


Well, you always said you wanted petrol prices to rise, FD.

Sustainability, innit.

Oh well, at least Vlad gets to cash in. The Russian economy was about to bust before DL started this one.

He cares, no?
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Reply #12 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 8:26am
 
Coal is a bigger contributor to GHG emissions, and has a higher emission per unit of energy produced. With the transition to EV's the gap is going to widen.
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Reply #13 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 8:27am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 8:11am:
freediver wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:15pm:
It's kind of hard to stock up on petrol.


Well, you always said you wanted petrol prices to rise, FD.

Sustainability, innit.

Oh well, at least Vlad gets to cash in. The Russian economy was about to bust before DL started this one.

He cares, no? 



Vlad is gonna love the high fuel prices.
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Reply #14 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 10:25am
 
Having a diesel vehicle and storing diesel long term better than petrol.
LP gas is still reasonably priced.

Now, I was remembering back in the later 70s….

It was Iran! Trouble with Iran!

And…back in the 70s petrol prices went up…… cars with V8 engines plummeted and everyone was panicking and scurrying to rid their V8’s to buy 4 cyl or get cars converted to gas.

Well here we go (Iran again!!!) except…. Now it’s a ploy to raise fuel so everyone will scurry to rid their petrol cars (yes even 4 cylinders) to get….tah dah…. Electric cars!!!!

I’m not gonna panic! Imma staying put!

From the 70s lesson I learnt…. to do multiple errands with one car trip to save on fuel…. Unlike some I know that go out every day for some feeble excuse.
Do people hate staying home a day, or two, or three?




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Reply #15 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 10:40am
 
Page 6 in today's The West Australian.

What are you going to do about it, Roger? Nothing.

What can you do about it, Roger? Nothing.

Oh, and while you're "fuming" perhaps you could direct some of your displeasure towards the housing and rent price hikes over the past 10 years or so that makes buying a house or affording (or even finding) a private rental almost impossible these days.

What's that? Ah, that's right - your government is addicted to the Stamp Duty revenue from house sales, aren't you? (2 billion dollars in the last 6 months of 2025, up from 1.5 billion for the last 6 months of 2024 due to increasing house prices).

F...ing hypocrite.
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Reply #16 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 10:53am
 
Vlad doesn't look happy

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Reply #17 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 12:07pm
 
I see the same thing around here. Fuel price varies by about 60c. Not evenly. For example they will all be either within 5c of $1.50 or within 5c of $2.10. Seems to vary by suburb, as fuel stations within sight of each other charge about the same.

There is absolutely no need for the government to do anything about it. If it bothers you, just shop around. Or better yet, buy an EV. They are dirt cheap to run.

Why is there this incessant need for the government to make everything 'fair'?
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Reply #18 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 12:38pm
 
Here today Unleaded 91 is $1.70 to $2.00
Diesel is $1.74 to $2.10.

Brisbane unleaded 91 is $1.96 to $2.20
Brisbane Diesel is $1.90 to $2.20

Brisbane is  the major port for QLD & has the Lytton Refinery producing 60% of QLDs fuel.

Why is fuel cheaper here - 3 1/2 hrs nrth of Brisbane?

We are being savved every which way but loose.

There is not a reason in hell why already purchased fuel supplies at the time the first strikes on Iran should have been reflected the next day at bowsers in Australia. Just out & out profiteering.
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Reply #19 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 1:44pm
 
There is no "Brisbane price" for petrol. Look around.
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Gnads wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 12:38pm:
Why is fuel cheaper here - 3 1/2 hrs nrth of Brisbane?


Because like here 3 hours south of Perth, it is too far for the city folks to drive. Wink
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Reply #21 - Mar 5th, 2026 at 4:25pm
 
Filled up at $1.71 unleaded 91 today.
Not saying where. We don't need people from Perth coming here and making a queue.
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Jasin wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
Filled up at $1.71 unleaded 91 today.
Not saying where. We don't need people from Perth coming here and making a queue.


You won't say where, we understand.

So which website are you checking our prices on?
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What this guy says! The amount of fuel  Shocked
It’s toilet paper panic buying but petrol themed!

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Reply #24 - Mar 7th, 2026 at 12:03am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:03pm:
Channel 7 news just reported petrol could soon hit $3 per litre.



The ABC says:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-04/petrol-prices-surge-across-australia-serv...

In short:

People are being urged not to panic buy petrol, as prices surge amid the Middle East war.

Long queues of cars are lining streets around petrol stations across the country, with warnings the price per litre could rise by 40c in coming weeks.

What's next?
Authorities say there is a steady supply of fuel in Australia, with fuel companies accused of taking advantage of people's anxieties by hiking prices.



Petrol retailers across the nation are being accused of "unconscionable" behaviour by preying on people's anxieties as fuel prices surge in the midst of the Middle East war.

Economists are warning Australian petrol prices could rise by 40 cents a litre in coming weeks as the conflict in the Middle East escalates, disrupting the flow of crude oil through the Strait of Hormuz.

In Perth, thousands of motorists across the city lined up along streets to get fuel last night, the cheapest day in the city's weekly fuel price cycle.

Many fuel stations across the city are selling fuel well above $2 per litre today, higher than than the daily average of 188.7 and the February average of 164.5c.


Hang on, weren't you just posting praise for your DL for bringing the price of gas down to $1.99 a gallon?

That was less than two weeks ago.

What say you now?
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Reply #25 - Mar 7th, 2026 at 12:06am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
Filled up at $1.71 unleaded 91 today.
Not saying where. We don't need people from Perth coming here and making a queue.


Indonesia, is it?
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7-Eleven defends 58c petrol price hike   Sad
7-Eleven has defended its 58c-per-litre hike in petrol, claiming the rise is in line with “broader industry trends” as the consumer watchdog issues a new warning.

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Petrol retailers are crisis profiteering and unjustifiably hiking prices at least five to 10 cents a litre across the country, the NRMA claims.

As the conflict in Iran lifts global wholesale fuel prices about 10c per litre, the national motorists’ group says service stations have hiked prices well above the wholesale increase, and before increases have even flowed through to the Australian fuel market.   Sad

NewsWire has recorded a 58c-per-litre hike from Monday to Thursday at 7-Eleven service stations in Sydney’s Surry Hills.

“While global crude oil prices may impact fuel prices across the industry, our priority is to maintain continuity of service for customers,” a 7-Eleven spokesperson said.

“We continue to offer Mobil quality fuels across our network, and customers can rely on the Fuel Price Lock feature within the My 7-Eleven app to help manage price movements.”

7-Eleven sold Mobil Supreme+ 98 for 181.9c a litre under the “fuel lock” scheme in and around Surry Hills on Monday, before the price jumped to 239.9c a litre by Thursday.

“Like all retailers, we monitor market conditions closely and will adjust in line with broader industry trends,” the 7-Eleven spokesperson said.

“We won’t be commenting on geopolitical matters, but we remain focused on providing a reliable and consistent offer for our customers every day.”

NRMA spokesman Peter Khoury said on Friday fuel retailers were already maximising their margins before the US and Israel began bombing Iran on Saturday.


“What we’ve seen in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane in particular, we were already at the top of the cycle. They were already charging the peak amount at $2.13 when the wholesale price was $1.53,” he told Sunrise.

“The wholesale price has gone up 10 cents a litre. They’ve put their prices up even further, and they’re refusing to come down. They’re using a crisis to make money, and it’s got to stop.”

Concerns about impending hikes in petrol prices have already prompted a flurry of buying across Australia.

Global oil prices – inflated by the military conflict – typically took seven to 10 days to flush through to Australian petrol prices, Mr Khoury said.

“What we’ve seen is those prices go up when they shouldn’t have, and they went up too quickly,” he said.

“The public are reporting them, and so there is more that they can do. They’ll drop their prices if you put a bit of pressure on them.”

The consumer watchdog issued a warning to fuel retailers on Friday.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) says it “will not hesitate to take action” against price gouging.

“The international price of refined petrol is a key driver of Australian retail petrol prices,” ACCC commissioner Anna Brakey said.

“While these international costs are largely outside the control of local petrol retailers, we remind retailers that making false or misleading statements to consumers about the reasons of price increases would be in breach of the Australian Consumer Law.”

The consumer watchdog had written to the fuel retailers telling them not to falsely blame the conflict for price increases, Ms Brakey said.

“The ACCC will not hesitate to take action if representations and market behaviour by a petrol company contravene competition and consumer laws,” she said.

“We have written to major fuel companies to set out our expectations about domestic fuel pricing as these international events unfold.

“At this time, as at any time, we encourage motorists to use fuel price apps and websites to shop around to find the lowest prices.”

Treasurer Jim Chalmers says the consumer watchdog has the powers to investigate petrol price changes.

On Thursday, federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers said motorists should not be taken for mugs by the fuel companies, as RACQ reports “unwarranted” hikes at the bowser to the consumer watchdog.   Sad

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Reply #27 - Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am
 
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.
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whiteknight wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 3:31am:
On Thursday, federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers said motorists should not be taken for mugs by the fuel companies


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Newsflash for you, Jim - motorists have been taken for mugs by fuel companies for as long as I can remember.

Every time the price of oil went up, the price of petrol at the bowser went up almost immediately but if the price of oil dropped it would take them up to a week or more to reduce the price of petrol (if they even bothered to reduce it at all).

Motorists have also been taken for mugs by the government who, despite their fake concern, are more than happy to see fuel prices go up and up because of the extra fuel tax they get (which is worked out as a percentage of each litre sold - currently about 50%, so I believe).

I don't know about everywhere else but here in WA the fuel companies cannot change the price for 24 hours. So, once they "decide" on the price for each day it has to stay the same from 'midnight to midnight'.

Before then, the price used to change several times a day (probably depending on how busy they were) and it used to go up by about 15 to 20 cents a litre every Friday lunchtime like clockwork so the fuel companies could rip off motorists filling up on Friday afternoons/evenings for the weekend.

Mugs indeed. As I said a few days ago - I'm glad I don't have a car anymore.
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Reply #29 - Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am
 
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.


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Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




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freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?
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Because we want to be rich, not self sufficient. Go weave your own baskets if that's what you want.
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freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:10am:
Because we want to be rich, not self sufficient. Go weave your own baskets if that's what you want.

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So being energy self-sufficient in the 21st century is now hippy dippy 60s basket weaving!

NOT shipping it out and then shipping it back, rather than refining it here would make us poorer.
You have caught what TGD has, fd.

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So being energy self-sufficient in the 21st century is now hippy dippy 60s basket weaving!


It is the same thought process, applied to a nation rather than a person, usually associated with stoned hippies who have come to realise they don't like backbreaking work just to feed themselves, but think it will all work out if everyone in the country does it.
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Reply #35 - Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:52am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:30am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:10am:
Because we want to be rich, not self sufficient. Go weave your own baskets if that's what you want.

Grin Grin Grin


So being energy self-sufficient in the 21st century is now hippy dippy 60s basket weaving!

NOT shipping it out and then shipping it back, rather than refining it here would make us poorer.
You have caught what TGD has, fd.




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Australia has oil reserves, but they are limited, holding only about 0.3% of the world's total reserves. While there is domestic production (mostly offshore in the Northern Carnarvon, Roebuck, and Gippsland basins), Australia imports around 90% of its refined fuel needs, relying on a strategic reserve to manage supply.

Key Details on Australian Oil:


Reserves: As of 2023, Australia had 7,551 PJ (1,312 million barrels) of proven and probable (2P) oil reserves.


Production: In 2023, Australia produced 747,020 TJ of crude oil.


Location: Most oil is found offshore in the Northern Carnarvon, Roebuck, and Gippsland basins, with some onshore production in the Cooper-Eromanga region.


Consumption & Import: Due to limited local refining capacity, Australia imports a vast majority of its petroleum products.


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In today's The West Australian, former consumer regulator Allan Fels says that if the war goes on for longer than 6 weeks (as I'm sure it will) then the government will have to do something - like price controls and petrol rationing.

I'll be stocking up on popcorn for if/when that happens.

I'm already having flashbacks to the Great Toilet Paper War of 2020 when stupid, selfish people bought as much as they could (even though they didn't need to) while at the same time thinking "stuff everyone else".

Things like rationing worked quite well during World War 2 for example when people cared about others much more than they do now.

But, today (with the abovementioned stupid, selfish people making up the majority of the population) - no chance.
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In today's The West Australian, former consumer regulator Allan Fels says that if the war goes on for longer than 6 weeks (as I'm sure it will) then the government will have to do something - like price controls and petrol rationing.


Why would it have to do that?
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freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 11:09am:
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In today's The West Australian, former consumer regulator Allan Fels says that if the war goes on for longer than 6 weeks (as I'm sure it will) then the government will have to do something - like price controls and petrol rationing.


Why would it have to do that?


Allan Fels says it would be to stop people panic buying and stocking up on petrol like they're doing right now and will only get worse the longer the war drags on.

But, no need to worry. I'm fairly certain our spineless politicians (especially Albanese) wouldn't have the intestinal fortitude to try anything like price controls and rationing of petrol.
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Carl D wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 11:17am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 11:09am:
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In today's The West Australian, former consumer regulator Allan Fels says that if the war goes on for longer than 6 weeks (as I'm sure it will) then the government will have to do something - like price controls and petrol rationing.


Why would it have to do that?


Allan Fels says it would be to stop people panic buying and stocking up on petrol like they're doing right now and will only get worse the longer the war drags on.

But, no need to worry. I'm fairly certain our spineless politicians (especially Albanese) wouldn't have the intestinal fortitude to try anything like price controls and rationing of petrol.


They would lack the stupidity.
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freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:42am:
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So being energy self-sufficient in the 21st century is now hippy dippy 60s basket weaving!


It is the same thought process, applied to a nation rather than a person, usually associated with stoned hippies who have come to realise they don't like backbreaking work just to feed themselves, but think it will all work out if everyone in the country does it.

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Energy security is economic security

And fossil fuels are what has created most of the wealth we take for granted.

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You could say the same about food. If you go back far enough, over 90% of the economy was geared towards producing food. But now it is about 1%. Energy is following the same trend. It's now somewhere between 1% and 4% of the economy.

People have created the wealth.

And Australia is a net oil exporter. If there ever is an oil crunch, we will benefit. It is not the refineries that will be in short supply.

This is really nothing more than people searching for something to pointlessly fret about. All the economies we fear overpowering us are the ones exporting cars and ipads.
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freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 4:08pm:
You could say the same about food. If you go back far enough, over 90% of the economy was geared towards producing food. But now it is about 1%. Energy is following the same trend. It's now somewhere between 1% and 4% of the economy.

People have created the wealth.

And Australia is a net oil exporter. If there ever is an oil crunch, we will benefit. It is not the refineries that will be in short supply.

This is really nothing more than people searching for something to pointlessly fret about. All the economies we fear overpowering us are the ones exporting cars and ipads.



It is  lot more complex and significant than that.

Energy is the basis of EVERY industry and every economic activity. As the price of energy goes up, so does the price of everything for that very reason.

You want secure, reliable and cheap energy. All three at once.  Australia could have all three but doesn't, because of government policies by the Uniparty.

The food analogy is false. Going from 90% to 1% is due to mechanisation and energy. The 90% of peasant   population has been replaced by machinery and technology - running on energy. But instead of peasant and draft animal muscle, it is fossil fuel energy.


How many industries and business have closed down due to unaffordable energy (and labour and regulatory) costs?

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In today's The West Australian, former consumer regulator Allan Fels says that if the war goes on for longer than 6 weeks (as I'm sure it will) then the government will have to do something - like price controls and petrol rationing.


Why would it have to do that?



So that workers have enough petrol to get to work and back?   Undecided
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Freediver doesn't seem to get it.

Take fossil fuels away now and your standard of living will nosedive.

Eventually solar and nuclear may be able to take over but that is a long way off.

I expect it will be decades until I have an electric tractor.

Without diesel , there is no food production.

A 60 HP tractor that runs on 50 bucks of fuel a day , does the work of 60 horses or 500 men.

You want to pay a man 10 cents a day to till the  field?

You think white knight and his crew will work for 10 cents a day?

Because take away diesel and we are back to serfs in the field.

Even using 60 horses would cost you 1000 a day in feed and you would need multiple laborers to set up a horse team


We must give thanks for the miracle of fossil fuels
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hear hear sir Aqua,

hydrocarbons are a miracle.
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I expect it will be decades until I have an electric tractor.


I expect I will never have one. But who cares about tractors? We could easily achieve all our climate change targets and keep using diesel tractors.

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Take fossil fuels away now and your standard of living will nosedive.


It would be expensive to make a sudden and massive change, but no-one is proposing that. We have had about 5 decades of warning. You keep inventing idiotic strawmen and gleefully shooting them down, but all you are really doing is being evasive. People are already choosing electric vehicles - not because of climate change, not because of peak oil, but because they are cheaper to run. Your nosediving standard of living is a moronic fantasy.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 6:06pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 11:09am:
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In today's The West Australian, former consumer regulator Allan Fels says that if the war goes on for longer than 6 weeks (as I'm sure it will) then the government will have to do something - like price controls and petrol rationing.


Why would it have to do that?



So that workers have enough petrol to get to work and back?   Undecided


Rationing would not achieve that Bobby. It would do the opposite.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


Hang on, weren't you just posting praise for your DL for bringing the price of gas down to $1.99 a gallon?

That was less than two weeks ago.

What say you now?
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I expect it will be decades until I have an electric tractor.


I expect I will never have one. But who cares about tractors? We could easily achieve all our climate change targets and keep using diesel tractors.


Whoa!!


Sooooo..  how far exactly is this 'energy TRANSITION'  wheeze is going?


No, no, no, dont tell me it's ....the mythical unicorn of 'net zero'.

A gretaesque slogan.

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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 6:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


Hang on, weren't you just posting praise for your DL for bringing the price of gas down to $1.99 a gallon?

That was less than two weeks ago.

What say you now?



Our DL said not to worry.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-rising-gas-prices-during-iran-oper...


WASHINGTON, March 5 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Thursday he was not concerned about rising U.S. gas prices driven by the widening Iran conflict, telling Reuters ​in an exclusive interview that the U.S. military operation was his priority.

"I don't have any concern about it," he said, when asked about the higher prices at ‌the pump.
"They'll drop very rapidly when this is over, and if they rise, they rise,
but this is far more important than having gasoline prices go up a little bit."
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FD,
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Rationing would not achieve that Bobby. It would do the opposite.



Really - I'll have to put my Velcro, instead of laces shoes on,
and walk everywhere.    Undecided

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"I don't have any concern about it," he said, when asked about the higher prices at ‌the pump.
"They'll drop very rapidly when this is over, and if they rise, they rise,
but this is far more important than having gasoline prices go up a little bit."


Just so.

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Freediver is confused.
The figures re EVs are crystal clear.

Without  subsidies , none would be sold.
They require coal or gas to be burnt at night to make the electricity to recharge them


If you have a 5 yo petrol car and want to help reduce your carbon emissions the absolute best thing to do is to keep driving it.

If you switch it out for a tesla or a byd it is 10 years before the carbon used to produce that car is nullified.

And by 10 yrs, the battery is shot.

EVs make virtually no difference unless you make them incredibly light and therefore quite dangerous in a crash.
China is going that route .
Australia probably will not.
Out roads require a heavier more robust vehicle
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Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

What grotesque madness made you krap away about nuclear energy and nationalised coal-fired power stations while our energy infrastructure was rusting away and passing its use-by date?

Why, after 30 years of Tory obstructionism, have Australians been quietly putting solar panels on their rooftops, the biggest rooftop solar uptake in the world? Why, in the city all those Libs conspired in, have we been able to install a solar farm powerful enough to run our nation's capital, generating enough solar energy for half a million people?

I'll tell you why, dear boy. Because most of us, despite your distraction, hissy fits and culture wars, have begun the transition without you. And do you know? We twigged we can't do it with the Libs in power, so we all made a collective decision at the last election to throw them out for good.

It's not your country, old boy. You couldn't give a pickled herring. But the rest of us are more than happy to put in the effort without you.

And you?

You'll always be free - free to go straight right back to where you came from.

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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

What grotesque madness made you krap away about nuclear energy and nationalised coal-fired power stations while our energy infrastructure was rusting away and passing its use-by date?

Why, after 30 years of Tory obstructionism, have Australians been quietly putting solar panels on their rooftops, the biggest rooftop solar uptake in the world? Why, in the city all those Libs conspired in, have we been able to install a solar farm powerful enough to run our nation's capital, generating enough solar energy for half a million people?

I'll tell you why, dear boy. Because most of us, despite your distraction, hissy fits and culture wars, have begun the transition without you. And do you know? We twigged we can't do it with the Libs in power, so we all made a collective decision at the last election to throw them out for good.

It's not your country, old boy. You couldn't give a pickled herring. But the rest of us are more than happy to put in the effort without you.

And you?

You'll always be free - free to go straight right back to where you came from.

Freeeeeedom, innit.

Thank you Greta.

You are out of your mind, as ever.

Nobody, not even you think that you have addressed the questions. You retard will simply regurgitate the same shite no matter what the question.

Morons, robots, bots, blathering grimacing pakis.




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Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 6:31pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 6:22pm:
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I expect it will be decades until I have an electric tractor.


I expect I will never have one. But who cares about tractors? We could easily achieve all our climate change targets and keep using diesel tractors.


Whoa!!


Sooooo..  how far exactly is this 'energy TRANSITION'  wheeze is going?


No, no, no, dont tell me it's ....the mythical unicorn of 'net zero'.

A gretaesque slogan.



You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. It is not even the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels. Or tractors. Does every discussion you have about climate change descend into people patiently trying to explain to you how your idiotic fantasies differ from reality? Or do you think you could figure that out for yourself?
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You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes
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lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes


Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. The whole point was that it was just an idiotic fantasy on his part.
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Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. T



maybe you should check on Blackout Bowen. Wink
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lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:21pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes


Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. The whole point was that it was just an idiotic fantasy on his part.




maybe you should check on Blackout Bowen. Wink


Why? Do you share Frank's fantasy?

Why is it that climate "sceptics" always end up being the most gullible?
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Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:14pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

What grotesque madness made you krap away about nuclear energy and nationalised coal-fired power stations while our energy infrastructure was rusting away and passing its use-by date?

Why, after 30 years of Tory obstructionism, have Australians been quietly putting solar panels on their rooftops, the biggest rooftop solar uptake in the world? Why, in the city all those Libs conspired in, have we been able to install a solar farm powerful enough to run our nation's capital, generating enough solar energy for half a million people?

I'll tell you why, dear boy. Because most of us, despite your distraction, hissy fits and culture wars, have begun the transition without you. And do you know? We twigged we can't do it with the Libs in power, so we all made a collective decision at the last election to throw them out for good.

It's not your country, old boy. You couldn't give a pickled herring. But the rest of us are more than happy to put in the effort without you.

And you?

You'll always be free - free to go straight right back to where you came from.

Freeeeeedom, innit.

Thank you Greta.

You are out of your mind, as ever.

Nobody, not even you think that you have addressed the questions. You retard will simply regurgitate the same shite no matter what the question.

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freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:27pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:21pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes


Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. The whole point was that it was just an idiotic fantasy on his part.




maybe you should check on Blackout Bowen. Wink


Why? Do you share Frank's fantasy?

Why is it that climate "sceptics" always end up being the most gullible?


You haven't even read his last post, you poor old thing.

Lee says you can't make solar panels and wind turbines without using - ahem - coal.

So that's that. Better pack it in, leftards.

Lee said.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:17pm:
You need Jerry cans and a safe place to store it.



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Next - panic buying toilet paper... Tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Marla wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 3:49am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 5:17pm:
You need Jerry cans and a safe place to store it.



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Reply #66 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 7:47am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:27pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:21pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes


Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. The whole point was that it was just an idiotic fantasy on his part.




maybe you should check on Blackout Bowen. Wink


Why? Do you share Frank's fantasy?

Why is it that climate "sceptics" always end up being the most gullible?




Ah yes.
Believe tim flannery.
It will never rain again.
Meanwhile central Australia records it's wettest decade ever
And all that plant growth soaks up the CO 2.


I think we  know who the gullible are.

Tell us about South Australia 1 hr battery
Tell us about pumped hydro  Grin Grin Grin
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Increased Carbon Dioxide (CO₂): Plants thrive on CO₂, and higher concentrations in the atmosphere can boost plant growth. This is known as the "CO₂ fertilization effect." In some regions, this effect has been linked to a higher rate of plant photosynthesis and growth, especially in areas like northern latitudes, deserts, and tropical zones.
Warmer Temperatures: In some places, warming temperatures can lengthen growing seasons, particularly in colder regions. Warmer winters allow plants to grow longer into the year, which increases the amount of vegetation.
Land Use Changes: Some areas have seen an increase in forest cover or more green spaces due to changes in land use, conservation efforts, or agricultural practices that favor certain crops or vegetation types.
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aquascoot wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 7:47am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:27pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:21pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes


Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. The whole point was that it was just an idiotic fantasy on his part.




maybe you should check on Blackout Bowen. Wink


Why? Do you share Frank's fantasy?

Why is it that climate "sceptics" always end up being the most gullible?




Ah yes.
Believe tim flannery.
It will never rain again.
Meanwhile central Australia records it's wettest decade ever
And all that plant growth soaks up the CO 2.


I think we  know who the gullible are.

Tell us about South Australia 1 hr battery
Tell us about pumped hydro  Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #69 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:33am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 1:44pm:
There is no "Brisbane price" for petrol. Look around.


It was an average of all the servos displaying prices on Petrol Spy.

So I did have a look around.

I wasn't posting the price at every damned servo. Roll Eyes

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-27.4710107/153.0234489
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lee wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Gnads wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 12:38pm:
Why is fuel cheaper here - 3 1/2 hrs nrth of Brisbane?


Because like here 3 hours south of Perth, it is too far for the city folks to drive. Wink


So the fuel companies are being benevolent to those of us in the regions?

Yeah nah .....  Wink Wink
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Jasin wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
Filled up at $1.71 unleaded 91 today.
Not saying where. We don't need people from Perth coming here and making a queue.



They'd defeat the purpose driving any considerable distance to fuel up for 40 cents cheaper.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


98 has not been been lower than $1.98 for months.

91 is above $2.00 to $2.20 in Brisbane today.

E10 is even $2.16 at BP Ipswich Road Moorooka.

It's outright profiteering.
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Carl D wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:08am:
whiteknight wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 3:31am:
On Thursday, federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers said motorists should not be taken for mugs by the fuel companies


Grin Grin Grin

Newsflash for you, Jim - motorists have been taken for mugs by fuel companies for as long as I can remember.

Every time the price of oil went up, the price of petrol at the bowser went up almost immediately but if the price of oil dropped it would take them up to a week or more to reduce the price of petrol (if they even bothered to reduce it at all).

Motorists have also been taken for mugs by the government who, despite their fake concern, are more than happy to see fuel prices go up and up because of the extra fuel tax they get (which is worked out as a percentage of each litre sold - currently about 50%, so I believe).

I don't know about everywhere else but here in WA the fuel companies cannot change the price for 24 hours. So, once they "decide" on the price for each day it has to stay the same from 'midnight to midnight'.

Before then, the price used to change several times a day (probably depending on how busy they were) and it used to go up by about 15 to 20 cents a litre every Friday lunchtime like clockwork so the fuel companies could rip off motorists filling up on Friday afternoons/evenings for the weekend.

Mugs indeed. As I said a few days ago - I'm glad I don't have a car anymore.


Not just the fuel companies - the Govt is taking us for mugs..... they get their excise of 51.6 cents per litre for every litre of petrol and diesel sold.

That's a ridiculous rate.

How would you like to be paying that rate of income tax.

Never mind you are also being charged GST for the fuel as well.

The same applies to huge govt excise charged on beer & wine.
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Reply #74 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:16am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:52am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:30am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:10am:
Because we want to be rich, not self sufficient. Go weave your own baskets if that's what you want.

Grin Grin Grin


So being energy self-sufficient in the 21st century is now hippy dippy 60s basket weaving!

NOT shipping it out and then shipping it back, rather than refining it here would make us poorer.
You have caught what TGD has, fd.




You silly Billy:



Google AI:


Australia has oil reserves, but they are limited, holding only about 0.3% of the world's total reserves. While there is domestic production (mostly offshore in the Northern Carnarvon, Roebuck, and Gippsland basins), Australia imports around 90% of its refined fuel needs, relying on a strategic reserve to manage supply.

Key Details on Australian Oil:


Reserves: As of 2023, Australia had 7,551 PJ (1,312 million barrels) of proven and probable (2P) oil reserves.


Production: In 2023, Australia produced 747,020 TJ of crude oil.


Location: Most oil is found offshore in the Northern Carnarvon, Roebuck, and Gippsland basins, with some onshore production in the Cooper-Eromanga region.


Consumption & Import: Due to limited local refining capacity, Australia imports a vast majority of its petroleum products.


Fuel Security: As of March 2026, Australia holds roughly 32–36 days of fuel in stock, with the government purchasing additional reserves stored in the United States.


Although rich in other resources like coal and natural gas, Australia is not a major oil-producing nation.



BS - there are oil & gas operations in SW QLD & NE Sth Aust.

It's in the Eromanga & Cooper Basins.

Ever heard of Moomba?

Not your silly Melbourne festival.

It's been producing oil & gas since 1969 - 57 years.

Quote:
The Moomba pipeline network primarily transports natural gas from the Cooper Basin in South Australia to major demand centers in eastern Australia.

The system splits into two main branches: the Moomba-Adelaide Pipeline System (MAPS) delivering to Adelaide, Port Pirie, Whyalla, and Angaston,

and the Moomba-Sydney Pipeline (MSP) serving Sydney, Newcastle, Wollongong, and Canberra.

Key details about the Moomba pipeline system:

Moomba-Adelaide Pipeline System (MAPS): A 1,184 km system operated by Epic Energy that carries gas from the Moomba processing plant to Adelaide, with branches to regional SA centers.

Moomba-Sydney Pipeline (MSP): A 2,081 km pipeline operated by APA Group transporting gas to the NSW capital and surrounding regional areas.

Moomba-Sydney Ethane Pipeline (MSEP): A 2,000 km pipeline carrying ethane from Moomba to a petrochemical plant at Botany in Sydney.
Liquid Pipeline: A 659 km pipeline moves liquids (condensate, LPG) from Moomba to Port Bonython for export.

Interconnections: The system connects with the QSN Link to bring gas from Queensland's Bowen-Surat Basin into the network.

These pipelines are critical, supplying the bulk of natural gas for industrial and residential use in South Australia, New South Wales, and the ACT.

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Reply #75 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:18am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 2:52pm:
Energy security is economic security

And fossil fuels are what has created most of the wealth we take for granted.




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Reply #76 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:19am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 4:08pm:
You could say the same about food. If you go back far enough, over 90% of the economy was geared towards producing food. But now it is about 1%. Energy is following the same trend. It's now somewhere between 1% and 4% of the economy.

People have created the wealth.

And Australia is a net oil exporter. If there ever is an oil crunch, we will benefit. It is not the refineries that will be in short supply.

This is really nothing more than people searching for something to pointlessly fret about. All the economies we fear overpowering us are the ones exporting cars and ipads.


No you can't - everything you enjoy in your life - including wealth - is down to fossil fuels.
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Reply #77 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:30am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:45am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


98 has not been been lower than $1.98 for months.

91 is above $2.00 to $2.20 in Brisbane today.

E10 is even $2.16 at BP Ipswich Road Moorooka.

It's outright profiteering.

Indeed.

Home brew, black market cigies. Next - backyard refineries.  Tongue
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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

What grotesque madness made you krap away about nuclear energy and nationalised coal-fired power stations while our energy infrastructure was rusting away and passing its use-by date?

Why, after 30 years of Tory obstructionism, have Australians been quietly putting solar panels on their rooftops, the biggest rooftop solar uptake in the world? Why, in the city all those Libs conspired in, have we been able to install a solar farm powerful enough to run our nation's capital, generating enough solar energy for half a million people?

I'll tell you why, dear boy. Because most of us, despite your distraction, hissy fits and culture wars, have begun the transition without you. And do you know? We twigged we can't do it with the Libs in power, so we all made a collective decision at the last election to throw them out for good.

It's not your country, old boy. You couldn't give a pickled herring. But the rest of us are more than happy to put in the effort without you.

And you?

You'll always be free - free to go straight right back to where you came from.

Freeeeeedom, innit.


Who has been subsidising the cheap solar systems & now with batteries being made available?

You - the taxpayer that's who.

My first 6kw system cost around $25,000 in 20 10/11 - do you think I have made my money back?

The system was barely 5 years old & it became less efficient & by the time it was replaced after a hail storm in 2022(11 years old) I was receiving electricity bills around $300 a quarter for at least 2 years when I shouldn't have been paying any.

The replacement 6 kw system now installed sees me in credit an extra $200  every quarter.

After recently claiming $2,000 from my credits, leaving $700 in the account I am now back in credit $1,524.

It still hasn't got that first system I paid $25,000 for anywhere near balanced back after 15 years.
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Reply #79 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:40am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:45am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


98 has not been been lower than $1.98 for months.

91 is above $2.00 to $2.20 in Brisbane today.

E10 is even $2.16 at BP Ipswich Road Moorooka.

It's outright profiteering.



It's big money for a petrol station to make an extra 50 cents per litre.
Greed has taken over.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:40am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:45am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


98 has not been been lower than $1.98 for months.

91 is above $2.00 to $2.20 in Brisbane today.

E10 is even $2.16 at BP Ipswich Road Moorooka.

It's outright profiteering.



It's big money for a petrol station to make an extra 50 cents per litre.
Greed has taken over.


Well what did you think was going to happen when the Govt gets 51.6 cents for every litre sold?

Govt excise should be no more than 10 cents.
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Reply #81 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 10:14am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

 



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You are talking idiotic nonsense AGAIN, son of Lahore.


The question is not about renrewables, but about the source of fuel and why Austealia is not refining its own fuels.
Also, why is there gas shortage? Why is energy expensive?

Government policies by the Uniparty.
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Reply #82 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 10:16am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:43am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:40am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:45am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


98 has not been been lower than $1.98 for months.

91 is above $2.00 to $2.20 in Brisbane today.

E10 is even $2.16 at BP Ipswich Road Moorooka.

It's outright profiteering.



It's big money for a petrol station to make an extra 50 cents per litre.
Greed has taken over.


Well what did you think was going to happen when the Govt gets 51.6 cents for every litre sold?

Govt excise should be no more than 10 cents.



The fuel excise is supposed to go to building roads but
it's placed straight into consolidated revenue and
then we have to pay tolls for roads.
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Reply #83 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 10:19am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 10:16am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:43am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:40am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:45am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 5:29am:
Use this site to find your local petrol prices:

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.814107/144.96328


You can see it's around $2.40 per litre for U98.

It was $1.89 last week - so a big jump
from all the war profiteering.


98 has not been been lower than $1.98 for months.

91 is above $2.00 to $2.20 in Brisbane today.

E10 is even $2.16 at BP Ipswich Road Moorooka.

It's outright profiteering.



It's big money for a petrol station to make an extra 50 cents per litre.
Greed has taken over.


Well what did you think was going to happen when the Govt gets 51.6 cents for every litre sold?

Govt excise should be no more than 10 cents.



The fuel excise is supposed to go to building roads but
it's placed straight into consolidated revenue and
then we have to pay tolls for roads.


Toll roads would solve the problem but govts sold them off to private enterprise, turning them into money making machines for shareholders.

FD is probably one.

Registration is supposed to be for the roads.
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Reply #84 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 11:08am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:33am:
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 1:44pm:
There is no "Brisbane price" for petrol. Look around.


It was an average of all the servos displaying prices on Petrol Spy.

So I did have a look around.

I wasn't posting the price at every damned servo. Roll Eyes

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-27.4710107/153.0234489


You don't pay the average Brisbane price, any more than you pay the average state price. You pay the actual price at the servo where you fill up, and if the price bothers you, it is a very simple matter to fill up when you pass a cheap one. If you shop around, you would probably end up paying less in Brisbane.
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Reply #85 - Mar 8th, 2026 at 11:13am
 
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Take fossil fuels away now and your standard of living will nosedive.


Who said anything about doing that?
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Gnads wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 12:38pm:
Why is fuel cheaper here - 3 1/2 hrs nrth of Brisbane?


Because like here 3 hours south of Perth, it is too far for the city folks to drive. Wink


So the fuel companies are being benevolent to those of us in the regions?

Yeah nah .....  Wink Wink


Diesel $1.79 where I normally shop, last Thursday. Of course cheaper rents, Fewer stations help. Roll Eyes
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Why is it that climate "sceptics" always end up being the most gullible?


Did you see Roger (the Dodger) Cook, Premier of WA is now talking about building gas plant to replace coal? Fossil fuel to fossil fuel, although less CO2. Wink
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Are petrol stations price gouging?.  Yes Treasurer Chalmers you are right to say, don't take Australian drivers for mugs.   Sad 
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Yes Treasurer Chalmers you are right to say, don't take Australian drivers for mugs.



Yes. Why be that specific? Just take all Australians for mugs. Wink
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Are petrol stations price gouging?.  Yes Treasurer Chalmers you are right to say, don't take Australian drivers for mugs.   Sad 


But they are. They don't care if the price is 60c cheaper everywhere else. The solution is not to demand the government intervene, but to use your own brain. That's what it's there for.
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Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:37am:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

What grotesque madness made you krap away about nuclear energy and nationalised coal-fired power stations while our energy infrastructure was rusting away and passing its use-by date?

Why, after 30 years of Tory obstructionism, have Australians been quietly putting solar panels on their rooftops, the biggest rooftop solar uptake in the world? Why, in the city all those Libs conspired in, have we been able to install a solar farm powerful enough to run our nation's capital, generating enough solar energy for half a million people?

I'll tell you why, dear boy. Because most of us, despite your distraction, hissy fits and culture wars, have begun the transition without you. And do you know? We twigged we can't do it with the Libs in power, so we all made a collective decision at the last election to throw them out for good.

It's not your country, old boy. You couldn't give a pickled herring. But the rest of us are more than happy to put in the effort without you.

And you?

You'll always be free - free to go straight right back to where you came from.

Freeeeeedom, innit.


Who has been subsidising the cheap solar systems & now with batteries being made available?

You - the taxpayer that's who.

My first 6kw system cost around $25,000 in 20 10/11 - do you think I have made my money back?

The system was barely 5 years old & it became less efficient & by the time it was replaced after a hail storm in 2022(11 years old) I was receiving electricity bills around $300 a quarter for at least 2 years when I shouldn't have been paying any.

The replacement 6 kw system now installed sees me in credit an extra $200  every quarter.

After recently claiming $2,000 from my credits, leaving $700 in the account I am now back in credit $1,524.

It still hasn't got that first system I paid $25,000 for anywhere near balanced back after 15 years.


There you go, leftards. Gonads has gone solar.

No worries. What's the bet Aquascoot runs the farm on horse shit?
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Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 10:14am:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

 



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You are talking idiotic nonsense AGAIN, son of Lahore.


The question is not about renrewables, but about the source of fuel and why Austealia is not refining its own fuels.
Also, why is there gas shortage? Why is energy expensive?

Government policies by the Uniparty.


Apology accepted, old boy.
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Oil has gone from $60 a barrel to over $90 a barrel in one week:

https://oilprice.com/

We're doomed.



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freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes


Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. The whole point was that it was just an idiotic fantasy on his part.



I am not the one holding up signs of 'end coal NOW' or 'No Oil', not the one slashing art works or organising school strikes for climate.

Net zero is an empty slogan. Most of the climate panic kids do mean the complete end of fossik fuels. It is the climate catasotrophy fantasists who are totally confused and talking crap/cross purposes.

Energy TRANSITION. Does that mean fossil fuels at 60% of current use? 40%? 10%? Zero?  100% renewable - is that 50% gas?


The climate catasptrophy narrative is like a bloody Pat and Mike cross talk act after 3 pints. The People's Climate Liberation Front versus the Climate Liberation Front of the People versus the Climate Front People of the Liberation.

Pimply blue haired weasels overshouting each other.


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I am not the one holding up signs of 'end coal NOW'


But that is the fantasy you choose to address instead of reality.
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But that is the fantasy you choose to address instead of reality.



Nope, that is a function of the new, university educated. And they allow them the vote. Roll Eyes
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freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 5:34pm:
But that is the fantasy you choose to address instead of reality.



Nope, that is a function of the new, university educated. And they allow them the vote. Roll Eyes


No it isn't Lee. It is a reflection of the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'. They can't even figure out what they are supposed to be sceptical of.
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freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 7:39pm:
lee wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 5:37pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 5:34pm:
But that is the fantasy you choose to address instead of reality.



Nope, that is a function of the new, university educated. And they allow them the vote. Roll Eyes


No it isn't Lee. It is a reflection of the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'. They can't even figure out what they are supposed to be sceptical of.



I would see you as gaslighting climate sceptics.
There is plenty to be sceptical about.

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aquascoot wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 7:59pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 7:39pm:
lee wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 5:37pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 5:34pm:
But that is the fantasy you choose to address instead of reality.



Nope, that is a function of the new, university educated. And they allow them the vote. Roll Eyes


No it isn't Lee. It is a reflection of the gullibility of climate 'sceptics'. They can't even figure out what they are supposed to be sceptical of.



I would see you as gaslighting climate sceptics.
There is plenty to be sceptical about.



If only you could figure out what it is instead of directing your efforts at idiotic fantasies.
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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 2:22pm:
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 9:37am:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:07pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 9:07am:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:44am:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:38am:
So what happened to Chris Bowel's Glorious Energy Transition?

Note that Iran is targeting neighbouring oil refineries and gas ports, NOT wind and solar farms.
Why?
The world runs on fossil fuels?  Shurely shome mishtake.




Because a centralised system makes it more vulnerable to attack.



Why is Australia's energy supply is centralised elsewhere?

Why isnt Australia, energy superpower, self reliant for every form of energy?  What madness has made Australia import 90% of its fuel?
What Gretaesque madness rationalised such stupidity?


Why? Because you, Rupert and the Libs have been bleating away about how awful renewable energy is for the past thirty years, dear. That's why.

What grotesque madness made you krap away about nuclear energy and nationalised coal-fired power stations while our energy infrastructure was rusting away and passing its use-by date?

Why, after 30 years of Tory obstructionism, have Australians been quietly putting solar panels on their rooftops, the biggest rooftop solar uptake in the world? Why, in the city all those Libs conspired in, have we been able to install a solar farm powerful enough to run our nation's capital, generating enough solar energy for half a million people?

I'll tell you why, dear boy. Because most of us, despite your distraction, hissy fits and culture wars, have begun the transition without you. And do you know? We twigged we can't do it with the Libs in power, so we all made a collective decision at the last election to throw them out for good.

It's not your country, old boy. You couldn't give a pickled herring. But the rest of us are more than happy to put in the effort without you.

And you?

You'll always be free - free to go straight right back to where you came from.

Freeeeeedom, innit.


Who has been subsidising the cheap solar systems & now with batteries being made available?

You - the taxpayer that's who.

My first 6kw system cost around $25,000 in 20 10/11 - do you think I have made my money back?

The system was barely 5 years old & it became less efficient & by the time it was replaced after a hail storm in 2022(11 years old) I was receiving electricity bills around $300 a quarter for at least 2 years when I shouldn't have been paying any.

The replacement 6 kw system now installed sees me in credit an extra $200  every quarter.

After recently claiming $2,000 from my credits, leaving $700 in the account I am now back in credit $1,524.

It still hasn't got that first system I paid $25,000 for anywhere near balanced back after 15 years.


There you go, leftards. Gonads has gone solar.

No worries. What's the bet Aquascoot runs the farm on horse shit?



More then happy to use solar during the day.

Now explain how I can store all that solar energy so I can use it at night , recharge my cars at night when I aren't using them

You can't.

Unless you want to mine the whole planet to make batteries.

Without a breakthrough in power storage,, we will be reliant on fossil fuels or nuclear to power the world after 6 pm,
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Now explain how I can store all that solar energy so I can use it at night , recharge my cars at night when I aren't using them

You can't.


Grin

Oh look, a climate skeptic who has never heard of batteries, pumped hydro etc.

Quote:
Unless you want to mine the whole planet to make batteries.


Did I mention idiotic fantasies?
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freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 5:34pm:
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I am not the one holding up signs of 'end coal NOW'


But that is the fantasy you choose to address instead of reality.



Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.  Are you pushing the idiotic line that we must not take the Gretas, the Mohammeds, the Ayatollas and Abdel Fatahs at their word??


What is the korrekt translation of 'just end oil'? or 'death to Amerikkka'? or 'where's the Jews'?




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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.
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Now explain how I can store all that solar energy so I can use it at night , recharge my cars at night when I aren't using them

You can't.


Grin

Oh look, a climate skeptic who has never heard of batteries, pumped hydro etc.

Quote:
Unless you want to mine the whole planet to make batteries.


Did I mention idiotic fantasies?



Batteries  Cheesy

South Australia battery cost 190 million.
I can supply 150 MW hours.
Average use in SA per night is over 1000 MW. Cheesy

Cost per KW hour for South Australia. 40 cents.
Japan. 25 cents.
China 10 cents.


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Are you trying to say you don't know how to interpret numbers, but you can manage slogans?
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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?

It is Greens policy.

Phasing out the Victorian use of fossil fuels using a combination of energy efficiency, energy storage, energy conservation and renewable energy.
Supply
Rapid transition to 100% renewable energy, while ensuring a reliable and stable electricity grid through sound engineering and planning




Stop dribbling, fd.

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Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
Quote:
Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?

It is Greens policy.

Phasing out the Victorian use of fossil fuels using a combination of energy efficiency, energy storage, energy conservation and renewable energy.
Supply
Rapid transition to 100% renewable energy, while ensuring a reliable and stable electricity grid through sound engineering and planning




Stop dribbling, fd.





Indeed frank.

The qld government under  labor ran ads extolling the virtues of the coal industry and how the royalties paid for schools and hospitals.


As if burning it in China or Japan was fine as the CO 2 would stay in the northern hemisphere  Embarrassed
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Are petrol stations price gouging?.  Yes Treasurer Chalmers you are right to say, don't take Australian drivers for mugs.   Sad 



Yesterday here in fascist America gas was $2.31/gallon now it's $3.49.





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Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?


Like I keep saying, can you figure it out for yourself?
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Marla wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 7:55am:
whiteknight wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 1:15pm:
Are petrol stations price gouging?.  Yes Treasurer Chalmers you are right to say, don't take Australian drivers for mugs.   Sad 



Yesterday here in fascist America gas was $2.31/gallon now it's $3.49.


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Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 5:32pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:07pm:
lee wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 8:05pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2026 at 7:48pm:
You know that net zero by 2050, or some later decade, is not the same thing as abandoning fossil fuels now. I



First of all you would need to make solar panels and wind turbines without fossil fuels.

And burying solar panels and turbine blades merely adds to the environmental costs. Roll Eyes


Lee, no one other than Frank was suggesting we abandon fossil fuels now. The whole point was that it was just an idiotic fantasy on his part.



I am not the one holding up signs of 'end coal NOW' or 'No Oil', not the one slashing art works or organising school strikes for climate.




Just so. You're the one snatching headscarves off little old ladies' heads and screaming SEND THEM BACK while the temperature soars and the fires and floods get worse each year.

You're one of Rupert's little agitators, helping to divide, distract and keep the price of fossil fuels rising.

After all, when they go low, you go high, no?
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freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?

It is Greens policy.



It is German policy.

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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:29am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?

It is Greens policy.



It is German policy.

Deutschland uber alles, nein?



They are not laffing now.

It has been a disaster in Germany and Europe generally.  And the Uniparty want to emulate the 'sophisticated' Europeans.
Ludicrous.




Germany’s over reliance on intermittent renewable energy sources like wind and solar has led to an energy crisis, exacerbated by the phenomenon of Dunkelflaute (periods of no wind or sunlight).

Electricity prices in Germany are the highest in Europe, reaching €900/MWh during crises, compared to €250/MWh in nuclear-powered France.

The hasty phase-out of nuclear power in 2011 has left Germany dependent on coal, lignite and energy imports, making it the second-largest CO2 emitter per unit of energy in Europe.

Industries, including major players like VW and BASF, are relocating due to unsustainable energy costs, threatening Germany’s economic stability.

The crisis has created geopolitical tensions, with neighboring countries facing unaffordable energy prices and considering withdrawing from energy agreements.
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Reality check: Wind and solar already cost less than half the price of coal power, and a third that of nuclear. And the gap is rapidly widening. Even with storage it is still cheaper.
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tallowood wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 6:06pm:
Horses and rickshaws will come back.


A horse typically needs to consume 600kg of hay per month for a 1000kg horse.

Hay prices in Australia as of early 2026 vary significantly by region and type, with high demand driving costs up to $400–$500 per tonne for premium fodder in drought-affected areas.

You can find car cost (without fuel) here
https://www.savings.com.au/car-loans/ongoing-car-costs

Horses are better deal.
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It's now $2.90 where I am. Finally jumped.
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Reply #117 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 11:42am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:58am:
It's now $2.90 where I am. Finally jumped.



Wow - highest here is $2.44  today.

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.815412749365215/144.9635148166733
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freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:47am:
Reality check: Wind and solar already cost less than half the price of coal power, and a third that of nuclear. And the gap is rapidly widening. Even with storage it is still cheaper.


Strange. The old boy says it is LUDICROUS. A DISASTER. An ENERGY CRISIS !!!

When all along, territories and states like the ACT and South Australia have been quietly getting on with the job, using the sun and the wind, just as God wills it.

Insh'allah, the ACT are already there. SA are currently on track to be fully renewable by 2027.

So that's what God wants. Rupert and the old boy, both foreigners, have other ideas.

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tallowood wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:48am:
tallowood wrote on Mar 4th, 2026 at 6:06pm:
Horses and rickshaws will come back.


A horse typically needs to consume 600kg of hay per month for a 1000kg horse.

Hay prices in Australia as of early 2026 vary significantly by region and type, with high demand driving costs up to $400–$500 per tonne for premium fodder in drought-affected areas.

You can find car cost (without fuel) here
https://www.savings.com.au/car-loans/ongoing-car-costs

Horses are better deal.


I know, but they also need a few carrots and Lebanese cucumbers, carefully sliced and packed in a Tupperware lunchbox by their long-suffering fillies.

Food for thought, no?
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Reply #120 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:44pm:
Are you trying to say you don't know how to interpret numbers, but you can manage slogans?


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freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:47am:
Reality check: Wind and solar already cost less than half the price of coal power, and a third that of nuclear. And the gap is rapidly widening. Even with storage it is still cheaper.



What storage   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
When all along, territories and states like the ACT and South Australia have been quietly getting on with the job, using the sun and the wind, just as God wills it



yet another "wrong" answer.

The only reason the ACT boats about being fully renewable is because it buys "green credits", although they may not be necessarily green. Wink

The only reason for SA is because they have the interconnector from Victoria. and that is a mix of all energy types. Brown coal included. Roll Eyes
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aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:41pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:47am:
Reality check: Wind and solar already cost less than half the price of coal power, and a third that of nuclear. And the gap is rapidly widening. Even with storage it is still cheaper.



What storage   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Pumped hydro is cheapest for long term energy storage (or better yet, just save the conventional hydro for peak demand). Lithium batteries are the cheapest for short term storage (ie, daily cycles). It is even cheaper if you use both systems in combination, running hydro for longer periods (eg a week) and charging batteries from that to cope with intra-day demand fluctuations.
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Reply #124 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:18pm:
Pumped hydro is cheapest for long term energy storage (or better yet, just save the conventional hydro for peak demand).



At how many billion dollars? Snowy 2.0 is slated for 350MWh. East coast electricity consumption is about 225GWh pa,  225x103/365 days= about 616MWh, so enough for 1.76 days. Cheap innit. Roll Eyes

So how much more hydro at what cost for running hydro for a week? The cost for Snowy2 is now $20 billion.

Charging batteries for intraday fluctuations? Not happening in a dunkelflate. Roll Eyes
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Just had to wait over 30 minutes in line at a regional QLD petrol station as it appeared that the entire town and out laying farmland was trying to purchase petrol.
I paid $2.49 a litre for ulp 91. Diesel was nudging $3.


I remarked to the lady at the counter she must be run off her feet and she agreed but said it will be only a day or so before they run dry and she will be out of work.
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lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:42pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:18pm:
Pumped hydro is cheapest for long term energy storage (or better yet, just save the conventional hydro for peak demand).



At how many billion dollars? Snowy 2.0 is slated for 350MWh. East coast electricity consumption is about 225GWh pa,  225x103/365 days= about 616MWh, so enough for 1.76 days. Cheap innit. Roll Eyes

So how much more hydro at what cost for running hydro for a week? The cost for Snowy2 is now $20 billion.


Tasmania has the cheapest electricity in Australia - because hydro is so cheap. We are adding a second trunk connection from Tasmania to the east coast grid. And it is even better than storage.

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Charging batteries for intraday fluctuations? Not happening in a dunkelflate. Roll Eyes


You did not understand the point - that you can charge batteries from stored hydro power. So yes, you can do that. That was pretty much the whole point of my explanation, and it went right over your had, because you do not want to understand. No only can you do it, but it works out cheaper than stored hydro or lithium batteries used in isolation. Instead of me explaining the same thing over and over again just go back and read what I wrote the first time.
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Reply #127 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 2:28pm:
Tasmania has the cheapest electricity in Australia - because hydro is so cheap.


It is so cheap that Tasmania hasn't built any new ones.

The Cethana pumped storage hasn't been approved and no costings on how "cheap" it will be.

freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 2:28pm:
And it is even better than storage.


See above.

freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 2:28pm:
You did not understand the point - that you can charge batteries from stored hydro power.



But Snowy2 has explicitly said they will not do that.

"It will provide flexible, on-demand power while reusing or ‘recycling’ the water in a closed loop and maximise the efficiency of renewables by using excess solar and wind energy to pump water to the higher dam, to be stored for later use."

But then of course if they did do that. that is electricity not available to the grid out of that 1.76 days. Roll Eyes

https://www.snowyhydro.com.au/snowy-20/about/

freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 2:28pm:
Instead of me explaining the same thing over and over again just go back and read what I wrote the first time.



i have explained the above point before, and you still don't understand it. Roll Eyes
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lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:06pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
When all along, territories and states like the ACT and South Australia have been quietly getting on with the job, using the sun and the wind, just as God wills it



yet another "wrong" answer.

The only reason the ACT boats about being fully renewable is because it buys "green credits", although they may not be necessarily green. Wink

The only reason for SA is because they have the interconnector from Victoria. and that is a mix of all energy types. Brown coal included. Roll Eyes


The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.

South Australia is currently at 72%, as per our previously-posted evidence.

So no, not "wrong", categorically proven. No matter how many lies you try, you can't possibly win.

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Reply #130 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:34pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 2:28pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:42pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:18pm:
Pumped hydro is cheapest for long term energy storage (or better yet, just save the conventional hydro for peak demand).



At how many billion dollars? Snowy 2.0 is slated for 350MWh. East coast electricity consumption is about 225GWh pa,  225x103/365 days= about 616MWh, so enough for 1.76 days. Cheap innit. Roll Eyes

So how much more hydro at what cost for running hydro for a week? The cost for Snowy2 is now $20 billion.


Tasmania has the cheapest electricity in Australia - because hydro is so cheap. We are adding a second trunk connection from Tasmania to the east coast grid. And it is even better than storage.


aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:41pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:47am:
Reality check: Wind and solar already cost less than half the price of coal power, and a third that of nuclear. And the gap is rapidly widening. Even with storage it is still cheaper.



What storage   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.



So what you are saying is that the ACT is NOT connected to the east coast grid. Roll Eyes

"The National Electricity Market (NEM) is comprised of five physically connected regions on the east coast of Australia:

    Queensland
    New South Wales (which includes the ACT)
    Victoria
    Tasmania
    South Australia"

https://www.aemc.gov.au/energy-system/electricity/electricity-system/NEM

"Electricity prices in the Canberra, ACT have been volatile, with costs rising in recent years despite strong renewable generation."

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/energy/electricity-rebates/act/

Nothing there about 100% renewables.

"Some electricity accounting methodologies, such as the market-based method used by Climate Active, recognise the proportion of the ACT Government's commitment that has been matched with the ACT Government’s surrender of renewable energy certificates. This is termed the Jurisdictional Renewable Power Percentage (JRPP) and in 2024 this was 79.51%. The JRPP for 2025 has yet not been released."

https://www.greenpower.gov.au/get-greenpower/buying-greenpower-australian-capita...

Nor there.

"When you add a Greenchoice fee to your electricity bill, you contribute to the purchase of renewable electricity from government-accredited sources, including wind power, biomass, hydro and solar."

https://www.actewagl.com.au/sustainability/greenchoice

Nor there.

So perhaps you can tell us how they switch off the fossil fuelled part of the grid. Just too dumb to do your own research. Roll Eyes
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It is so cheap that Tasmania hasn't built any new ones.


Exactly. Low prices indicate an oversupply. They kind of went overboard a while back when every premier wanted a dam named after him.

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But Snowy2 has explicitly said they will not do that.


Duh. How can it use hydro to power lithium batteries if there are no lithium batteries as part of the project?

But there is nothing stopping anyone else with connected lithium battery storage from using it on an intra-day basis while snowy 2 is running. Welcome to the wonders of the free market.

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Reply #133 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:01pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:06pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
When all along, territories and states like the ACT and South Australia have been quietly getting on with the job, using the sun and the wind, just as God wills it



yet another "wrong" answer.

The only reason the ACT boats about being fully renewable is because it buys "green credits", although they may not be necessarily green. Wink

The only reason for SA is because they have the interconnector from Victoria. and that is a mix of all energy types. Brown coal included. Roll Eyes


The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.

South Australia is currently at 72%, as per our previously-posted evidence.

So no, not "wrong", categorically proven. No matter how many lies you try, you can't possibly win.

How does it feeeeeel?



An accounting trick.

The ACT is connected to the National Electricity Market (NEM) with NSW, QLD, VIC, SA, and TAS.
That means:
Electricity in the wires is the general grid mix (coal, gas, hydro, wind, solar).
At any given moment, the power used in Canberra might come from coal or gas plants elsewhere. �
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The ACT’s renewable generators are often located in other states and feed power into the same grid. �
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Think of it like this:
The grid is a big pool of electricity.
The ACT pays to put in as much renewable energy as it takes out, but the electrons themselves mix.
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Reply #134 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
Low prices indicate an oversupply. They kind of went overboard a while back when every premier wanted a dam named after him.



So overboard they had to import.

freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
Duh. How can it use hydro to power lithium batteries if there are no lithium batteries as part of the project?


Nothing to do with solar and wind. Wink

freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
But there is nothing stopping anyone else with connected lithium battery storage from using it on an intra-day basis while snowy 2 is running.



Ah adding another layer of electricity use into the mix. Down, down the projected take off goes up means the amount of supply goes down. Roll Eyes

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That's not an accounting trick Scoot. That's sharing the power lines.
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freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm:
That's not an accounting trick Scoot. That's sharing the power lines.


So how do they get rid of the fossil fuelled portion of the power line?

It is an accounting trick. "Buy green credits - it becomes "green power".
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Freediver might need a spare trillion. And let's not forget their are enough rare earth minerals for the world o do this  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Australia consumes roughly 700,000 MWh (700 GWh) of electricity per day. �
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Night is roughly half a day, so covering just nighttime demand would require roughly:
≈350 GWh of storage
2️⃣ Cost of enough batteries for overnight power
Grid-scale lithium batteries currently cost roughly $250–400 million per GWh of storage (depending on project size and duration). �
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Rough calculation
If we assume $300 million per GWh:
Required storage: 350 GWh
Cost per GWh: $300 million
Total cost ≈ $105 billion
So just to cover one night of electricity demand:
➡️ About $100–120 billion.
But that’s not the whole story.
3️⃣ The real problem: multiple cloudy / windless days
Energy systems can’t rely on just one night of storage, because sometimes:
Wind drops for days
Solar is weak in winter
Weather systems cover large regions
Energy planners usually model 3–5 days of storage.
If Australia wanted 5 days of storage
Daily demand:
700 GWh/day
Five days:
3,500 GWh storage
Cost:
3,500 GWh × $300M/GWh
= ≈ $1 trillion
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lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
Low prices indicate an oversupply. They kind of went overboard a while back when every premier wanted a dam named after him.



So overboard they had to import.


Tasmania is a net electricity exporter, but it works both ways. When electricity is cheaper on the mainland due to renewable energy being so cheap (less than half the price of coal, 1/3 the price of nuclear), they import. Sometimes the east coast electricity price goes negative and we actually pay the Tasmanians to take our electricity. Then when there is high demand on the east coast pushing prices up, Tasmania runs the hydro plants and exports more renewable energy.

The wonders of the free market. All that cheap renewable electricity getting shared around. It must make your blood boil, having to search so hard for something to whine about.
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Reply #139 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm:
That's not an accounting trick Scoot. That's sharing the power lines.



Incorrect, they build a solar farm in qld, pump power into the grid at midday when we already have too much, then pay to suck back on fossil fuels at night and declare they are 100 % renewable.


Accounting trick.

If it's not, let's see them disconnect from the grid  Cheesy Cheesy Grin
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Reply #140 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:12pm
 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/driver-accused-of-ridiculous-act-at-aussie-petrol-stat...


Fuel prices soar to $4 per litre in regional towns
Fuel prices are already starting to soar to nearly $4 per litre in some remote parts of Australia, with fears it will climb higher.


Remote parts of the Northern Territory, including Ramingining, 560 km east of Darwin in Arnhem Land, are currently paying $3.99 per litre for diesel.

Another community in Arnhem Land, Milingimbi are also paying $3.95 per litre.

Cities are yet to be hit as badly with service stations across Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane charging almost $2.20 a litre.
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aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:11pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm:
That's not an accounting trick Scoot. That's sharing the power lines.



Incorrect, they build a solar farm in qld, pump power into the grid at midday when we already have too much, then pay to suck back on fossil fuels at night and declare they are 100 % renewable.


Accounting trick.

If it's not, let's see them disconnect from the grid  Cheesy Cheesy Grin


That's not what your copy and paste job says. Did you read it?
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Reply #142 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
All that cheap renewable electricity getting shared around. It must make your blood boil, having to search so hard for something to whine about.



You forgot the fossil fuelled electricity that is shared all over the grid too. But you don't want to mention that. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:11pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm:
That's not an accounting trick Scoot. That's sharing the power lines.



Incorrect, they build a solar farm in qld, pump power into the grid at midday when we already have too much, then pay to suck back on fossil fuels at night and declare they are 100 % renewable.


Accounting trick.

If it's not, let's see them disconnect from the grid  Cheesy Cheesy Grin


That's not what your copy and paste job says. Did you read it?




Certainly did.

It said they are connected to the grid so that at night they can use all those lovely electrons created by fossil fuels in other states
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Reply #144 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:34pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:30pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
All that cheap renewable electricity getting shared around. It must make your blood boil, having to search so hard for something to whine about.



You forgot the fossil fuelled electricity that is shared all over the grid too. But you don't want to mention that. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


I am not the one looking for something to whine about when wind and solar cost less than half the price of coal, and less than a third the price of nuclear, and we are putting in a second main trunk to Tasmania so we can take advantage of their cheap, despatchable hydro as well.

This has all been explained to you countless times before, but still you trot out the same old erroneous complaints.

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Certainly did.


Not the bit you actually copied scoot. Either you left that bit out, or you are confused again. You left out both the link, and the relevant information, if it even exists.
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Reply #145 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:40pm
 
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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.



So what you are saying is that the ACT is NOT connected to the east coast grid. Roll Eyes

"The National Electricity Market (NEM) is comprised of five physically connected regions on the east coast of Australia:

    Queensland
    New South Wales (which includes the ACT)
    Victoria
    Tasmania
    South Australia"

https://www.aemc.gov.au/energy-system/electricity/electricity-system/NEM

"Electricity prices in the Canberra, ACT have been volatile, with costs rising in recent years despite strong renewable generation."

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/energy/electricity-rebates/act/

Nothing there about 100% renewables.

"Some electricity accounting methodologies, such as the market-based method used by Climate Active, recognise the proportion of the ACT Government's commitment that has been matched with the ACT Government’s surrender of renewable energy certificates. This is termed the Jurisdictional Renewable Power Percentage (JRPP) and in 2024 this was 79.51%. The JRPP for 2025 has yet not been released."

https://www.greenpower.gov.au/get-greenpower/buying-greenpower-australian-capita...

Nor there.

"When you add a Greenchoice fee to your electricity bill, you contribute to the purchase of renewable electricity from government-accredited sources, including wind power, biomass, hydro and solar."

https://www.actewagl.com.au/sustainability/greenchoice

Nor there.

So perhaps you can tell us how they switch off the fossil fuelled part of the grid. Just too dumb to do your own research. Roll Eyes


Why my poor dear fellow, I've shown you already!

Just think, you could have spent your time doing something productive -  learning a new language, playing a musical instrument, going out and starting a business.

But no, the chodes never learn.

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Reply #146 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:41pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:01pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:06pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
When all along, territories and states like the ACT and South Australia have been quietly getting on with the job, using the sun and the wind, just as God wills it



yet another "wrong" answer.

The only reason the ACT boats about being fully renewable is because it buys "green credits", although they may not be necessarily green. Wink

The only reason for SA is because they have the interconnector from Victoria. and that is a mix of all energy types. Brown coal included. Roll Eyes


The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.

South Australia is currently at 72%, as per our previously-posted evidence.

So no, not "wrong", categorically proven. No matter how many lies you try, you can't possibly win.

How does it feeeeeel?



An accounting trick.

The ACT is connected to the National Electricity Market (NEM) with NSW, QLD, VIC, SA, and TAS.
That means:
Electricity in the wires is the general grid mix (coal, gas, hydro, wind, solar).
At any given moment, the power used in Canberra might come from coal or gas plants elsewhere. �
ABC News
The ACT’s renewable generators are often located in other states and feed power into the same grid. �
ABC News
Think of it like this:
The grid is a big pool of electricity.
The ACT pays to put in as much renewable energy as it takes out, but the electrons themselves mix.


Mixed electrons, is it?

Oh-er, sounds a bit rude.

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Re: Petrol could hit $3 per litre
Reply #147 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:34pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:30pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
All that cheap renewable electricity getting shared around. It must make your blood boil, having to search so hard for something to whine about.



You forgot the fossil fuelled electricity that is shared all over the grid too. But you don't want to mention that. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


I am not the one looking for something to whine about when wind and solar cost less than half the price of coal, and less than a third the price of nuclear, and we are putting in a second main trunk to Tasmania so we can take advantage of their cheap, despatchable hydro as well.

This has all been explained to you countless times before, but still you trot out the same old erroneous complaints.

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Certainly did.


Not the bit you actually copied scoot. Either you left that bit out, or you are confused again. You left out both the link, and the relevant information, if it even exists.


Aquascoot hasn't learned to post a link the whole time he's been here, poor thing.

When one Googles the contents, one nearly always discovers the exact opposite of what he's posted.

A cautionary tale indeed.
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Re: Petrol could hit $3 per litre
Reply #148 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:34pm:
I am not the one looking for something wo whine about when wind and solar cost less than half the price of coal, and less than a third the price of nuclear, and we are putting in a second main trunk to Tasmania so we can take advantage of their cheap, despatchable hydro as well.



And when solar and wind give about 25% capacity factor. Wink

And then the land required needed.

"Long story short, matching the accredited capacity of one natural gas plant sitting on 58 acres of land with solar in 2030 would require over 105,792 acres of solar panels, roughly 29% of the total land area of Cerro Gordo County."

The River City Energy Project is a 500 megawatt (MW) solar farm proposed by Ranger Power in Cerro Gordo County, Iowa. If approved, the total project site would be 2,894 acres, most of it on farmland, equating to an average of 5.8 acres per MW of installed capacity.

In contrast, the Emery Generating Station, a nearby CC natural gas plant also located in Cerro Gordo County, has a total rated capacity of 602.8 MW and sits on a total of around 58 acres. Including the power plant and the parking lot, land use for this CC plant equates to 0.096 acres per MW of installed capacity.

This means the proposed Ranger Power solar facility would require 60 times more land per MW than a CC natural gas plant of equal size.

...

The low capacity value attributed to solar using the DLOL metric would necessitate 19.29 acres of solar panels for one MW of accredited capacity in the 2025-2026 planning year, compared to 0.14 acres for a combined cycle natural gas plant. In 2030 and 2033, it would require 257.24 acres of solar panels for one MW of accredited capacity, growing to 578.80 acres in 2043.

In comparison, natural gas would require 0.14 acres, 0.14, and 0.14 acres in 2030, 2033, and 2043, respectively.
https://energybadboys.substack.com/p/solars-land-use-problem-is-much-worse

Panels age they will all need to be replace eventually. Just more landfill. And solar panels are less effective in summer, because of temperature across the junction.
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Reply #149 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:50pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:40pm:
Why my poor dear fellow, I've shown you already!



You have shown nothing. merely made a claim by a politician.

from your reference -

"The ACT is connected to the national energy grid, so we can source some of our renewable electricity supply from other parts of Australia."

So connected to the grid, full of that beastly fossil fuelled energy. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #150 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:54pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:45pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:34pm:
I am not the one looking for something wo whine about when wind and solar cost less than half the price of coal, and less than a third the price of nuclear, and we are putting in a second main trunk to Tasmania so we can take advantage of their cheap, despatchable hydro as well.



And when solar and wind give about 25% capacity factor. Wink


This has also been explained to you. Many times. The fact that wind and solar are cheaper than coal and nuclear by more than a factor of 2 and 3 is based on the actual costs and amounts generated.
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Reply #151 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:54pm:
The fact that wind and solar are cheaper than coal and nuclear by more than a factor of 2 and 3 is based on the actual costs and amounts generated.



As long as you disregard environmental costs. Less than 0.1 acre per MW of natural gas plant, 5.79 acres per MW of solar panels. Wink

The world has moved on from LCOE to Full cost.
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Reply #152 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:07pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:01pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 1:06pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 12:33pm:
When all along, territories and states like the ACT and South Australia have been quietly getting on with the job, using the sun and the wind, just as God wills it



yet another "wrong" answer.

The only reason the ACT boats about being fully renewable is because it buys "green credits", although they may not be necessarily green. Wink

The only reason for SA is because they have the interconnector from Victoria. and that is a mix of all energy types. Brown coal included. Roll Eyes


The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.

South Australia is currently at 72%, as per our previously-posted evidence.

So no, not "wrong", categorically proven. No matter how many lies you try, you can't possibly win.

How does it feeeeeel?



An accounting trick.

The ACT is connected to the National Electricity Market (NEM) with NSW, QLD, VIC, SA, and TAS.
That means:
Electricity in the wires is the general grid mix (coal, gas, hydro, wind, solar).
At any given moment, the power used in Canberra might come from coal or gas plants elsewhere. �
ABC News
The ACT’s renewable generators are often located in other states and feed power into the same grid. �
ABC News
Think of it like this:
The grid is a big pool of electricity.
The ACT pays to put in as much renewable energy as it takes out, but the electrons themselves mix.


From the link:

Since 2020, 100% of electricity in the ACT has come from renewable sources. The ACT will maintain this from now on.

Beg to differ? Sue the ACT government for false advertising.

In other news, Sky have ceased transmission to Lee's state of Western Australia.

So unfair!
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Reply #153 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:11pm
 
poor karny. can't get past politicians lies. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #154 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:15pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:50pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:40pm:
Why my poor dear fellow, I've shown you already!



You have shown nothing. merely made a claim by a politician.



A politician?

Energy in the ACT is legislated under the law. My link references the Energy Efficiency (Cost of Living) Improvement Act 2012.

Don't like it? Join Aquascoot in his class action.
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Reply #155 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:17pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:11pm:
poor karny. can't get past politicians lies. Grin Grin Grin Grin



Let's see the ACT disconnect from the national grid if it REALLY doesn't want to burn coal and gas at night  Cheesy
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Reply #156 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:44am:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:29am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?

It is Greens policy.



It is German policy.

Deutschland uber alles, nein?



They are not laffing now.

It has been a disaster in Germany and Europe generally.  And the Uniparty want to emulate the 'sophisticated' Europeans.
Ludicrous.



Oh, ja. The Väterland clearly has a long way to go. But before you pack your bags and go back, just remember which country is closest to your heart, dear boy.

It's currently tracking at 82% renewable energy.

One can never go home, no?

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Reply #157 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:32pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:17pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:11pm:
poor karny. can't get past politicians lies. Grin Grin Grin Grin



Let's see the ACT disconnect from the national grid if it REALLY doesn't want to burn coal and gas at night  Cheesy


No no, for once in your life, let's hear you finally speak the truth.

100% renewable energy.

Say it.
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Reply #158 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:40pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:17pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:11pm:
poor karny. can't get past politicians lies. Grin Grin Grin Grin



Let's see the ACT disconnect from the national grid if it REALLY doesn't want to burn coal and gas at night  Cheesy


No no, for once in your life, let's hear you finally speak the truth.

100% renewable energy.

Say it.





Myself and Donny are allowed to fib but you arent Smiley



1. The ACT’s “100% renewable electricity” claim
The ACT government buys enough renewable generation through contracts to match its total annual electricity use. These contracts are mainly with wind and solar farms around Australia.
Examples include wind farms in NSW, SA, and Victoria. Because of these agreements, the ACT can say its electricity is 100% renewable on a yearly accounting basis.
However, this does not mean the physical electricity at every moment is renewable.
2. What actually happens at night
At night:
Solar farms produce zero power
Wind farms may produce some power
The ACT is connected to the National Electricity Market (NEM) through NSW.
So when local renewable output is low, electricity flowing into Canberra can include:
Coal generation from NSW
Gas generation
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Reply #159 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:44pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.



So what you are saying is that the ACT is NOT connected to the east coast grid. Roll Eyes

"The National Electricity Market (NEM) is comprised of five physically connected regions on the east coast of Australia:

    Queensland
    New South Wales (which includes the ACT)
    Victoria
    Tasmania
    South Australia"

https://www.aemc.gov.au/energy-system/electricity/electricity-system/NEM

"Electricity prices in the Canberra, ACT have been volatile, with costs rising in recent years despite strong renewable generation."

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/energy/electricity-rebates/act/

Nothing there about 100% renewables.

"Some electricity accounting methodologies, such as the market-based method used by Climate Active, recognise the proportion of the ACT Government's commitment that has been matched with the ACT Government’s surrender of renewable energy certificates. This is termed the Jurisdictional Renewable Power Percentage (JRPP) and in 2024 this was 79.51%. The JRPP for 2025 has yet not been released."

https://www.greenpower.gov.au/get-greenpower/buying-greenpower-australian-capita...

Nor there.

"When you add a Greenchoice fee to your electricity bill, you contribute to the purchase of renewable electricity from government-accredited sources, including wind power, biomass, hydro and solar."

https://www.actewagl.com.au/sustainability/greenchoice

Nor there.

So perhaps you can tell us how they switch off the fossil fuelled part of the grid. Just too dumb to do your own research. Roll Eyes


Spot on.  Smiley
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Reply #160 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
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It is so cheap that Tasmania hasn't built any new ones.


Exactly. Low prices indicate an oversupply. They kind of went overboard a while back when every premier wanted a dam named after him.

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But Snowy2 has explicitly said they will not do that.


Duh. How can it use hydro to power lithium batteries if there are no lithium batteries as part of the project?

But there is nothing stopping anyone else with connected lithium battery storage from using it on an intra-day basis while snowy 2 is running. Welcome to the wonders of the free market.



So far Snowy2 has blown out it's budget by by $billions over 12 now & staring down $20 billion by it s extended completion date to 2028.

If that isn't extended further. Roll Eyes

Your cheap renewables are a complete fallacy.
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Reply #161 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:51pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:15pm:
Energy in the ACT is legislated under the law. My link references the Energy Efficiency (Cost of Living) Improvement Act 2012.



And who enacted that law and its definitions? Roll Eyes

BTW - How does the Cost of Living Act translate to renewable energy?

The only mention in the Act on renewable energy is
"b) the cost of achieving the equivalent energy savings through
other means including energy efficiency measures and the
purchase of renewable energy" .

No mention of how to import renewable energy,  no mention of import at all. Roll Eyes
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Reply #162 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:52pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
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It is so cheap that Tasmania hasn't built any new ones.


Exactly. Low prices indicate an oversupply. They kind of went overboard a while back when every premier wanted a dam named after him.

Quote:
But Snowy2 has explicitly said they will not do that.


Duh. How can it use hydro to power lithium batteries if there are no lithium batteries as part of the project?

But there is nothing stopping anyone else with connected lithium battery storage from using it on an intra-day basis while snowy 2 is running. Welcome to the wonders of the free market.




Is that right?

Quote:
Tasmania imports electricity from the National Electricity Market (NEM) via the Basslink interconnector frequently, with its reliance on imports increasing in recent years due to dry conditions reducing hydro capacity. While designed as a two-way connector to export hydro energy, Tasmania has become a net importer in most of the last seven years, particularly in 2024, when it faced its lowest hydroelectric generation in two decades.


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Reply #163 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:55pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:09pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:04pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:59pm:
Low prices indicate an oversupply. They kind of went overboard a while back when every premier wanted a dam named after him.



So overboard they had to import.


Tasmania is a net electricity exporter, but it works both ways. When electricity is cheaper on the mainland due to renewable energy being so cheap (less than half the price of coal, 1/3 the price of nuclear), they import. Sometimes the east coast electricity price goes negative and we actually pay the Tasmanians to take our electricity. Then when there is high demand on the east coast pushing prices up, Tasmania runs the hydro plants and exports more renewable energy.

The wonders of the free market. All that cheap renewable electricity getting shared around. It must make your blood boil, having to search so hard for something to whine about.



Wrong ---- a net importer for the last 7 years.

Perhaps they better build some more hydro to not generate power because of drought.  Grin
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Reply #164 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:02pm
 
Oh, dear.

Just like toilet paper 6 years ago - if you tell people not to hoard something and there's no need to worry then what will they go straight out and do?

Yep, you guessed it.

Driver accused of 'ridiculous' act at Aussie petrol station amid dire supply warning

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Australian drivers have been accused of succumbing to petrol station panic as fuel prices rise amid fears about global oil supplies during the ongoing Middle East conflict.

The cost of crude oil has surpassed $100 per barrel for the first time in more than three years, due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a critical chokepoint for global energy supplies, in the Middle East.

Now, Aussies are sounding the alarm as regional petrol stations begin to run dry across the country.

In one clip, a ute is seen pulling out of a petrol station, accused of filling plastic tanks with hundreds of litres of fuel.

It's understood the video was filmed at Riverstone Petroleum in Sydney's west.

While some said they were "jealous" of the driver's huge stockpile of fuel, others accused the driver of exacerbating Australia's looming petrol shortage.

"[People] are being ridiculous! Everyone needs to chill. Am I the only one not panic-buying?" asked one Aussie.

Others suggested the driver may be a farmer, and this sort of purchase is common.


On top of the sheer stupidity and greed on display (just like toilet paper as I mentoned) there's also the safety issue here. I'm expecting to see more and more reports of house fires and explosions in the coming weeks and months with all this petrol being hoarded around the country.

Idiots.
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Reply #165 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:03pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:40pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.



So what you are saying is that the ACT is NOT connected to the east coast grid. Roll Eyes

"The National Electricity Market (NEM) is comprised of five physically connected regions on the east coast of Australia:

    Queensland
    New South Wales (which includes the ACT)
    Victoria
    Tasmania
    South Australia"

https://www.aemc.gov.au/energy-system/electricity/electricity-system/NEM

"Electricity prices in the Canberra, ACT have been volatile, with costs rising in recent years despite strong renewable generation."

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/energy/electricity-rebates/act/

Nothing there about 100% renewables.

"Some electricity accounting methodologies, such as the market-based method used by Climate Active, recognise the proportion of the ACT Government's commitment that has been matched with the ACT Government’s surrender of renewable energy certificates. This is termed the Jurisdictional Renewable Power Percentage (JRPP) and in 2024 this was 79.51%. The JRPP for 2025 has yet not been released."

https://www.greenpower.gov.au/get-greenpower/buying-greenpower-australian-capita...

Nor there.

"When you add a Greenchoice fee to your electricity bill, you contribute to the purchase of renewable electricity from government-accredited sources, including wind power, biomass, hydro and solar."

https://www.actewagl.com.au/sustainability/greenchoice

Nor there.

So perhaps you can tell us how they switch off the fossil fuelled part of the grid. Just too dumb to do your own research. Roll Eyes


Why my poor dear fellow, I've shown you already!

Just think, you could have spent your time doing something productive -  learning a new language, playing a musical instrument, going out and starting a business.

But no, the chodes never learn.

Aquascoot said.


Pretty simple even for a Patpong Bar Boy poker like you.

The ACT Govt buys green/renewable energy credits & tells the story(porky) they are powered by 100% renewable energy .....

which cannot be feasibly true whilst they remain connected to the National Grid.

Tell me how they get that renewable energy that is generated all over the country to the ACT for consumer consumption?

By B-Double road tankers?   Grin Grin

You should shut your purse Melania, pack up & piss off if you believe that nonsense about the ACT being powered by 100% renewable energy.
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Reply #166 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:09pm
 
Carl D wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:02pm:
Oh, dear.

Just like toilet paper 6 years ago - if you tell people not to hoard something and there's no need to worry then what will they go straight out and do?

Yep, you guessed it.

Driver accused of 'ridiculous' act at Aussie petrol station amid dire supply warning

Quote:
Australian drivers have been accused of succumbing to petrol station panic as fuel prices rise amid fears about global oil supplies during the ongoing Middle East conflict.

The cost of crude oil has surpassed $100 per barrel for the first time in more than three years, due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a critical chokepoint for global energy supplies, in the Middle East.

Now, Aussies are sounding the alarm as regional petrol stations begin to run dry across the country.

In one clip, a ute is seen pulling out of a petrol station, accused of filling plastic tanks with hundreds of litres of fuel.

It's understood the video was filmed at Riverstone Petroleum in Sydney's west.

While some said they were "jealous" of the driver's huge stockpile of fuel, others accused the driver of exacerbating Australia's looming petrol shortage.

"[People] are being ridiculous! Everyone needs to chill. Am I the only one not panic-buying?" asked one Aussie.

Others suggested the driver may be a farmer, and this sort of purchase is common.


On top of the sheer stupidity and greed on display (just like toilet paper as I mentoned) there's also the safety issue here. I'm expecting to see more and more reports of house fires and explosions in the coming weeks and months with all this petrol being hoarded around the country.

Idiots.



Those white containers are certainly not made for the storage of fuels.

He should have been challenged at the service station & sent packing.
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Reply #167 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:42pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:51pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:15pm:
Energy in the ACT is legislated under the law. My link references the Energy Efficiency (Cost of Living) Improvement Act 2012.



And who enacted that law and its definitions? Roll Eyes


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Reply #168 - Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:45pm
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:03pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 4:40pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 3:31pm:
The ACT is powered by 100% renewable energy, dear.



So what you are saying is that the ACT is NOT connected to the east coast grid. Roll Eyes

"The National Electricity Market (NEM) is comprised of five physically connected regions on the east coast of Australia:

    Queensland
    New South Wales (which includes the ACT)
    Victoria
    Tasmania
    South Australia"

https://www.aemc.gov.au/energy-system/electricity/electricity-system/NEM

"Electricity prices in the Canberra, ACT have been volatile, with costs rising in recent years despite strong renewable generation."

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/energy/electricity-rebates/act/

Nothing there about 100% renewables.

"Some electricity accounting methodologies, such as the market-based method used by Climate Active, recognise the proportion of the ACT Government's commitment that has been matched with the ACT Government’s surrender of renewable energy certificates. This is termed the Jurisdictional Renewable Power Percentage (JRPP) and in 2024 this was 79.51%. The JRPP for 2025 has yet not been released."

https://www.greenpower.gov.au/get-greenpower/buying-greenpower-australian-capita...

Nor there.

"When you add a Greenchoice fee to your electricity bill, you contribute to the purchase of renewable electricity from government-accredited sources, including wind power, biomass, hydro and solar."

https://www.actewagl.com.au/sustainability/greenchoice

Nor there.

So perhaps you can tell us how they switch off the fossil fuelled part of the grid. Just too dumb to do your own research. Roll Eyes


Why my poor dear fellow, I've shown you already!

Just think, you could have spent your time doing something productive -  learning a new language, playing a musical instrument, going out and starting a business.

But no, the chodes never learn.

Aquascoot said.


Pretty simple even for a Patpong Bar Boy poker like you.

The ACT Govt buys green/renewable energy credits & tells the story(porky) they are powered by 100% renewable energy .....

which cannot be feasibly true whilst they remain connected to the National Grid.

Tell me how they get that renewable energy that is generated all over the country to the ACT for consumer consumption?.


Tell you how? We already have.

If you can't peruse a simple link, dear, there's no hope for you.

This year, Australia's largest solar farm will be powered by Australia's largest battery.

Boo hoo, no?
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Gnads wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 6:09pm:
Those white containers are certainly not made for the storage of fuels.

He should have been challenged at the service station & sent packing.



I predict shocking fires inside home garages from people
using incorrect petrol storage containers.

Wrong containers release petrol fumes that can be ignited
by unintentional sparks from static electricity
or even metal striking concrete  etc.


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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:44am:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:29am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?

It is Greens policy.



It is German policy.

Deutschland uber alles, nein?



They are not laffing now.

It has been a disaster in Germany and Europe generally.  And the Uniparty want to emulate the 'sophisticated' Europeans.
Ludicrous.



Oh, ja. The Väterland clearly has a long way to go. But before you pack your bags and go back, just remember which country is closest to your heart, dear boy.

It's currently tracking at 82% renewable energy.

One can never go home, no?




Denmark is SMALLER than Tasmania.
No heavy industry - it's all dairy, Lego, Shipping and... er... wind turbines.

Oh, and jumpers, furniture and Opera Houses.



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Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 7:55pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 5:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:44am:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 10:29am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:46pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
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Not a fantasy. On the news every other day.


No it isn't. Are you high?

I am saying we should not take you seriously, because you keep tripping over your own idiotic fantasies.

Phasing out fossil fuels - what does that mean?

It is Greens policy.



It is German policy.

Deutschland uber alles, nein?



They are not laffing now.

It has been a disaster in Germany and Europe generally.  And the Uniparty want to emulate the 'sophisticated' Europeans.
Ludicrous.



Oh, ja. The Väterland clearly has a long way to go. But before you pack your bags and go back, just remember which country is closest to your heart, dear boy.

It's currently tracking at 82% renewable energy.

One can never go home, no?




Denmark is SMALLER than Tasmania.
No heavy industry - it's all dairy, Lego, Shipping and... er... wind turbines.

Oh, and jumpers, furniture and Opera Houses.



You used to like, no?

How times change. Now you're into der Führer, tariffs, drill baby drill and blowing the mullahs back to the stone age.

It's enough to make Mormor weep with shame.
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This reminds me of the oil shock in 1973 -

they ran out of fuel at petrol stations -

people couldn't give V8 cars away - heavy gas guzzling monsters.

Small 4 cylinder cars went way up in price.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 8:56pm:
This reminds me of the oil shock in 1973 -

they ran out of fuel at petrol stations -

people couldn't give V8 cars away - heavy gas guzzling monsters.

Small 4 cylinder cars went way up in price.


Totally different. The response to the oil shocks was carparks full of Datsuns and VW Beetles.

The response to this one will be Chinese EVs and more solar farms.

The age of fossil fuels is done, as every Saudi schoolboy knows.
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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 9:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2026 at 8:56pm:
This reminds me of the oil shock in 1973 -

they ran out of fuel at petrol stations -

people couldn't give V8 cars away - heavy gas guzzling monsters.

Small 4 cylinder cars went way up in price.


Totally different. The response to the oil shocks was carparks full of Datsuns and VW Beetles.

The response to this one will be Chinese EVs and more solar farms.

The age of fossil fuels is done, as every Saudi schoolboy knows.




Nahh - buy a small 4 cylinder car while you still can -   allar snackbar.
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Petrol pumps are being switched off in several parts of the country.

Fuel deliveries are also being cut off to independent distributors.

Industry insider Danny Kreutzer says “I’ve never seen as bad as what it is.”

Farmers are also speaking out saying that they are struggling to obtain fuel & are warning that their lack of access to fuel is putting Australia's food supply at risk.



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Albo sold off our reserves in the US and gave that money to the Taliban Palestine and Mosques in Australia to fight Islamophobia


Baron's allowed to lie like this, Aquascoot.

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“ US-Iran war ‘petrol lockdown’ could send prices to $10 per litre

An expert claims we’re drastically underestimating what could be about to happen as the risk surrounding petrol supplies “increases exponential“

When is Albo going to ramp up refinery capacity in Australia and can Angus Taylor  explain how can we can access out 90 days emergency supplies he organised too have stored in America?

Great work Angus. Well done!
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Just like with toilet paper 6 years ago one can never underestimate the greed and stupidity of the majority of the population these days.

Panic buying wipes out Jerry can stocks at Bunnings amid fuel crisis

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Larrikin Aussies looking to cash in on the fuel supply crisis gripping motorists have listed cheap fuel containers for as much as $1000.

With “Jerry cans” out of stock in stores such as Bunnings, BCF and Supercheap Auto, many people have listed second-hand containers online for more than their new price.

Some are changing much more than you might think reasonable.
A Melbourne resident listed a basic metal fuel can for $1000, telling potential customers that “this is a once in a lifetime offer”.


As I've already said a few times - I'm so glad I don't have (or need) a car anymore.

Probably would have had all the petrol siphoned out of it by now by some scumbag which I'm sure we're going to see a lot of soon (on top of the fires and explosions caused by large amounts of fuel stored in inappropriate containers).

Unbelievable.
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I've filled 6 jerries Smiley
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Strategising is not panic buying.

Once pumping stops on all middle east oil wells, there is a risk the liquid moves underground and it isn't just turn these well back on and it's business as usual.

Shortages could go on for longer, this is why some are predicting oil to triple ... petrol $6 a litre.

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Carl D wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:42pm:
Just like with toilet paper 6 years ago one can never underestimate the greed and stupidity of the majority of the population these days.

Panic buying wipes out Jerry can stocks at Bunnings amid fuel crisis

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Opportunistic Aussies have stripped hardware shelves of Jerry cans before reselling them at insane prices on Facebook Marketplace.


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Larrikin Aussies looking to cash in on the fuel supply crisis gripping motorists have listed cheap fuel containers for as much as $1000.

With “Jerry cans” out of stock in stores such as Bunnings, BCF and Supercheap Auto, many people have listed second-hand containers online for more than their new price.

Some are changing much more than you might think reasonable.
A Melbourne resident listed a basic metal fuel can for $1000, telling potential customers that “this is a once in a lifetime offer”.


As I've already said a few times - I'm so glad I don't have (or need) a car anymore.

Probably would have had all the petrol siphoned out of it by now by some scumbag which I'm sure we're going to see a lot of soon (on top of the fires and explosions caused by large amounts of fuel stored in inappropriate containers).

Unbelievable.


I've been out and about for the last two hours, to Morley and then to Cannington, and thankfully I didn't see any signs of panic buying.

I passed a lot of petrol stations and most only had one or two cars in them.

The average price I saw was about $2.05

Maybe Perth people are being sensible for a change ???  Undecided
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Oil prices surged and then came tumbling back down on Monday after comments from President Trump on the war with Iran.



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Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:49pm:
Strategising is not panic buying.

Once pumping stops on all middle east oil wells, there is a risk the liquid moves underground and it isn't just turn these well back on and it's business as usual.

Shortages could go on for longer, this is why some are predicting oil to triple ... petrol $6 a litre.



It doesn't help when you blow up oil rigs in the middle of major urban populations, causing black rain and smog.

Shortages will go on for longer. Insurance companies have just stopped insuring vessels in the Persian Gulf.

The 70s oil shocks led to two global recessions and a generation of stagflation. The entire global economy has just dropped 5 to 10% in value.

This could mean the end of the current bull market. One half-baked decision by one demented prez - no Congress, no UN. You could say it had to come to this.

A number of us predicted it in 2024.

You?
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Oil prices surged and then came tumbling back down on Monday after comments from President Trump on the war with Iran.




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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:07pm:
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:49pm:
Strategising is not panic buying.

Once pumping stops on all middle east oil wells, there is a risk the liquid moves underground and it isn't just turn these well back on and it's business as usual.

Shortages could go on for longer, this is why some are predicting oil to triple ... petrol $6 a litre.



It doesn't help when you blow up oil rigs in the middle of major urban populations, causing black rain and smog.

Shortages will go on for longer. Insurance companies have just stopped insuring vessels in the Persian Gulf.

The 70s oil shocks led to two global recessions and a generation of stagflation. The entire global economy has just dropped 5 to 10% in value.

This could mean the end of the current bull market. One half-baked decision by one demented prez - no Congress, no UN. You could say it had to come to this.

A number of us predicted it in 2024.

You?



Australia only having a month's worth of petrol when this illegal attack occurred was all political decisions.

Added bonus, extreme petrol prices causing 5% + inflation = higher interest rates , that will crash the real estate sector.

Cheaper real estate on the horizon. Woo hoo !
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Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:19pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 2:07pm:
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:49pm:
Strategising is not panic buying.

Once pumping stops on all middle east oil wells, there is a risk the liquid moves underground and it isn't just turn these well back on and it's business as usual.

Shortages could go on for longer, this is why some are predicting oil to triple ... petrol $6 a litre.



It doesn't help when you blow up oil rigs in the middle of major urban populations, causing black rain and smog.

Shortages will go on for longer. Insurance companies have just stopped insuring vessels in the Persian Gulf.

The 70s oil shocks led to two global recessions and a generation of stagflation. The entire global economy has just dropped 5 to 10% in value.

This could mean the end of the current bull market. One half-baked decision by one demented prez - no Congress, no UN. You could say it had to come to this.

A number of us predicted it in 2024.

You?



Australia only having a month's worth of petrol when this illegal attack occurred was all political decisions.

Added bonus, extreme petrol prices causing 5% + inflation = higher interest rates , that will crash the real estate sector.

Cheaper real estate on the horizon. Woo hoo !


How's it going to crash real estate? Higher fuel prices push inflation. There's no corresponding drop in real estate demand.

A rise in mortgage costs just means more investors on the market, like sharks. People gotta live somewhere, no?
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Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
I've filled 6 jerries Smiley



You are part of the problem - hoarding petrol.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:01pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
I've filled 6 jerries Smiley



You are part of the problem - hoarding petrol.

I dressed up as Mel Gibson's MAD Max when I filled them up. Cheesy
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:01pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
I've filled 6 jerries Smiley



You are part of the problem - hoarding petrol.

I dressed up as Mel Gibson's MAD Max when I filled them up. Cheesy



Go to jail -
Go directly to jail -
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:01pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
I've filled 6 jerries Smiley



You are part of the problem - hoarding petrol.

I dressed up as Mel Gibson's MAD Max when I filled them up. Cheesy



Go to jail -
Go directly to jail -
do not pass Go -
do not collect $200.


But I only stole a loaf of French bread 🍞 in England 200+ years ago.
I ain't no criminal 'here'.
...only Americans commit crimes here like using the word JAIL and not GAOL. Wink
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Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
I've filled 6 jerries Smiley



You are part of the problem - hoarding petrol.


He's not talking about petrol, dear.
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Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:01pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
I've filled 6 jerries Smiley



You are part of the problem - hoarding petrol.

I dressed up as Mel Gibson's MAD Max when I filled them up. Cheesy



Go to jail -
Go directly to jail -
do not pass Go -
do not collect $200.


But I only stole a loaf of French bread 🍞 in England 200+ years ago.
I ain't no criminal 'here'.
...only Americans commit crimes here like using the word JAIL and not GAOL. Wink



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Melanias purse wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 4:01pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 10th, 2026 at 1:47pm:
I've filled 6 jerries Smiley



You are part of the problem - hoarding petrol.


He's not talking about petrol, dear.


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JaSin has been hoarding petrol:


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"JaSin" uses AI to write its own posts.

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"JaSin" uses AI to write its own posts.

You?



Why would you wanna kill a genius -  why?
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Service stations in our area have now run out of diesel!
Apparently, country/regional areas run out first.

I recall, when there was restrictions with toilet paper and what not, some stores wouldn’t serve unless you were locals…I was local with rewards card with my IGA and I found out people from inter city came all the way out here to stock up on our reserves !!

So is that why we’ve run out of diesel?
I’ve got half tank petrol in my car and will go out tomorrow to see if I can fill up with petrol at least.

I said to hubby, as we recently got out the petrol push bike and started it up… I’m sending him to the shops with it, with a basket to put goodies in, via the Warburton trail …
Don’t laugh, it will be safe as it may be like lockdown….hardly any traffic on road, to conserve fuel.

Here’s a zoomed in (not very clear) shot of bike with engine near back left foot and see the petrol tank just above rear wheel.

Plus, if it gets really bad and no fuel for a whole, we have an electric golf buggy to use.

I recall last fuel shortage, people were stealing fuel by puncturing holes in petrol tanks parked at train station. Just be aware.
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Diesel is running out in the city too.




Dave: So you are one of the largest producers of energy in the world?

Australia: Yes Dave.

D: But you only have enough refining capacity for 20% of your daily fuel needs?

A: Yes Dave.

D: And you rely heavily on fuel imports from nations that overwhelmingly don't have oil production of their own to meet their own needs, making you even more vulnerable to global supply shocks?

A: Yes Dave.







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Just listened to Federal parliament -

both sides are blaming each other for the fuel crisis -
they really are puerile -
we deserve better.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:18pm:
Just listened to Federal parliament -

both sides are blaming each other for the fuel crisis -
they really are puerile -
we deserve better.


Blame the rapist in the White (Supremacist) House.

He is 100% to blame.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:18pm:
Just listened to Federal parliament -

both sides are blaming each other for the fuel crisis -
they really are puerile -
we deserve better.


Blame the rapist in the White (Supremacist) House.

He is 100% to blame.

Topped up my tank today - $2.30/litre   Sad




The thing is -
Don didn't even get his own Congress to approve it -

he's acting above the law - he's a loose canon.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:18pm:
Just listened to Federal parliament -

both sides are blaming each other for the fuel crisis -
they really are puerile -
we deserve better.


Blame the rapist in the White (Supremacist) House.

He is 100% to blame.

Topped up my tank today - $2.30/litre   Sad




The thing is -
Don didn't even get his own Congress to approve it -

he's acting above the law - he's a loose canon.


He's a dictator, Bobby.

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The thing is -
Don didn't even get his own Congress to approve it -
he's acting above the law - he's a loose canon.




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The Senate rejected a resolution Wednesday to block President Donald Trump from ordering further strikes on Iran, declining to halt a war that Trump started without the consent of Congress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/03/04/senate-iran-war-powers-vote/

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Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:33pm:
The thing is -
Don didn't even get his own Congress to approve it -
he's acting above the law - he's a loose canon.




Quote:
The Senate rejected a resolution Wednesday to block President Donald Trump from ordering further strikes on Iran, declining to halt a war that Trump started without the consent of Congress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/03/04/senate-iran-war-powers-vote/




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Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:18pm:
Just listened to Federal parliament -

both sides are blaming each other for the fuel crisis -
they really are puerile -
we deserve better.


Blame the rapist in the White (Supremacist) House.

He is 100% to blame.

Topped up my tank today - $2.30/litre   Sad




The thing is -
Don didn't even get his own Congress to approve it -

he's acting above the law - he's a loose canon.


This is on point and true.

Democracy doesn’t seem to exist in the USA as we knew it.

If you think about the bigger picture after the invasion of vanalazurba or whatever it’s called to “ free the people “ and now gulf war 3 to  “ free the Iran people “ and the old USA line “ weapons of mass destruction “.

I look a little bit bigger.

Trumps ( IF successful in Iran) has just halved China oil supply.

There is a lot more going on here.

Time for Taiwan  to attack and take back their territory?

It’s a massive game of chess and the media will report what the media are told to report.

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Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:49pm:
tallowood wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:33pm:
The thing is -
Don didn't even get his own Congress to approve it -
he's acting above the law - he's a loose canon.




Quote:
The Senate rejected a resolution Wednesday to block President Donald Trump from ordering further strikes on Iran, declining to halt a war that Trump started without the consent of Congress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/03/04/senate-iran-war-powers-vote/




Paywalled site /  link.

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Thank god this forum has Sophia & Aquarius ♒



Personally I believe intelligent and rational, reasonable people with a personality should be banned immediately.

So that just means that they are gone.

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Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Dear Tallow,
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This is very short article so I took screen shot.
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Stuff the Senate -

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he is using tricks to avoid scrutiny.
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Trump should have gone straight to Congress -



Like Truman and then Kennedy. Wink
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We used to have a good number of female members here. Some have passed on sadly.
Sophia and Aquarius have been awesome for the forum.
...unlike Karnal (FD, Melanie's Purse, etc) and Proud Gay Aussie who try dismally to convince us they do a better job in the feminine way.
There is another gay here who doesn't need to act or antagonise for victimhood and is respected for it.
I forgot Buzzanji but he occasionally appears for short periods. He's ok, he's not a slimy.

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Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:35pm:
tallowood wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Dear Tallow,
many blessings -

if you link a paywalled site just copy and paste
the guts of it for us to read.     Roll Eyes


This is very short article so I took screen shot.
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Stuff the Senate -

Trump should have gone straight to Congress -
he is using tricks to avoid scrutiny.

Trump just throws it back at the corrupt Demo-rats
"Anything you can do, I can do better"
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I have returned from my work trip and I can report that there is no fuel issue other then price gouging that our government agents ACCC will do nothing about.

I find it interesting that community with nearly zero public transport are the first to run out of fuel.

However cities with plenty of public transportation have plenty of fuel at a reasonable price?

This might be okay now.

But once regional Australia can’t fuel their tractors to harvest our summer crops nor have diesel to think about planting winter crops ?



Think about it.

Government needs to step up and explain clearly how we can access our 90 day supply store in America?

Angus Taylor signed off on it but apparently Chris Bowen can’t communicate how our country  emergency management with the the USA works?

And our main stream media are too drunk to even understand it’s a question that needs answering 🥳

Hi  alcoholic suffering media people.

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Yes. There is no adequate public transport in Rural.
It should have priority over Cities.
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There are now more service stations around our area void of selling diesel.
Petrol only is for sale at $2.35 litre. And gas is .89 c
Two weeks ago I filled up for $1.54 litre.

And all I see is Albo’s face trying to give an almost comical “don’t panic” vibe.
When the government says don’t panic…. Everyone better stack up of dry foods and canned products and lastly….toilet paper!
Once truckers can’t get diesel to deliver goods to supermarkets, then what happens to supermarket shelves?
Oh my spidey senses are telling me it’s a repeat of how COVID lockdown stripped supermarket shelves is going to happen…. how long before this war ends? Iran is bombing any transport sailing into the gulf where all the refineries are.
Is it true? We only have 2 refineries left in Oz?

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Jasin wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:42pm:
We used to have a good number of female members here. Some have passed on sadly.
Sophia and Aquarius have been awesome for the forum.
...unlike Karnal (FD, Melanie's Purse, etc) and Proud Gay Aussie who try dismally to convince us they do a better job in the feminine way.
There is another gay here who doesn't need to act or antagonise for victimhood and is respected for it.
I forgot Buzzanji but he occasionally appears for short periods. He's ok, he's not a slimy.

More 'real' women here would be good.


I had thought of that and I do miss them  Cry
I am getting on in age too but I will try my best to be around with sane mind and able typing as long as possible.  Smiley
Cods was very good and I occasionally had gone back in archives to read her comments. She was excellent debater and I just like reading what the other females from past had to say.
It’s a sisterhood thing. Funny enough it was international woman’s day earlier this week, so your thoughts of past (and present ) female contributors on a forum were quite apt.

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lee wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:35pm:
Trump should have gone straight to Congress -



Like Truman and then Kennedy. Wink


AI:

Neither President Harry S. Truman nor President John F. Kennedy obtained a formal declaration of war or specific, pre-authorization from Congress for their major military involvements in Korea and Vietnam, respectively. Instead, they utilized executive power, acting under broader, existing, or international authorizations, which established precedents for later presidential war-making powers.



Harry S. Truman (Korean War, 1950–1953)
No Formal Declaration: Truman did not ask Congress for a declaration of war, characterizing the conflict instead as a "police action" under the auspices of the United Nations.


UN and Executive Authority: Truman committed U.S. air, ground, and naval forces based on UN Security Council resolutions calling for assistance to South Korea.


Congressional Support: While not passing a formal declaration, Congress generally supported the intervention, including voting to extend the draft to support the effort. However, the lack of formal, explicit authorization was criticized at the time.


John F. Kennedy (Vietnam War, 1961–1963)
Advisors and Counterinsurgency: Kennedy significantly increased the number of U.S. military "advisors" in South Vietnam from approximately 1,000 to over 15,000 by late 1963.


Executive Action: These deployments were done through executive orders and memoranda (such as NSAM 263) rather than congressional authorization.


No Combat Authorization: While Kennedy authorized a more "visible and hazardous role," he maintained that U.S. personnel were there to train, advise, and support, not to engage in direct combat. The formal authorization for direct, large-scale combat (the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution) did not occur until 1964, after his death.
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Sophia wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 6:44pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 4:42pm:
We used to have a good number of female members here. Some have passed on sadly.
Sophia and Aquarius have been awesome for the forum.
...unlike Karnal (FD, Melanie's Purse, etc) and Proud Gay Aussie who try dismally to convince us they do a better job in the feminine way.
There is another gay here who doesn't need to act or antagonise for victimhood and is respected for it.
I forgot Buzzanji but he occasionally appears for short periods. He's ok, he's not a slimy.

More 'real' women here would be good.


I had thought of that and I do miss them  Cry
I am getting on in age too but I will try my best to be around with sane mind and able typing as long as possible.  Smiley
Cods was very good and I occasionally had gone back in archives to read her comments. She was excellent debater and I just like reading what the other females from past had to say.
It’s a sisterhood thing. Funny enough it was international woman’s day earlier this week, so your thoughts of past (and present ) female contributors on a forum were quite apt.


Well, you know I'm psychic.  Cheesy
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Sophia wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 6:23pm:
There are now more service stations around our area void of selling diesel.
Petrol only is for sale at $2.35 litre. And gas is .89 c
Two weeks ago I filled up for $1.54 litre.

And all I see is Albo’s face trying to give an almost comical “don’t panic” vibe.
When the government says don’t panic…. Everyone better stack up of dry foods and canned products and lastly….toilet paper!
Once truckers can’t get diesel to deliver goods to supermarkets, then what happens to supermarket shelves?
Oh my spidey senses are telling me it’s a repeat of how COVID lockdown stripped supermarket shelves is going to happen…. how long before this war ends? Iran is bombing any transport sailing into the gulf where all the refineries are.
Is it true? We only have 2 refineries left in Oz?


Remember when petrol first got up to $2+ ltr years ago.
And lots of snazzy 4x4s and other big vehicle petrol guzzlers were on the side of roads and strips FOR SALE.
I guess they haven't learned.
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Oh it really has begun. Just saw this on reddit that Costco has a lot of empty shelves! The toilet paper chaos all over again!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Adelaide/s/5fU3AgdETx
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Sophia wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 11:07pm:
Oh it really has begun. Just saw this on reddit that Costco has a lot of empty shelves! The toilet paper chaos all over again!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Adelaide/s/5fU3AgdETx




There is an entire psychiatric industry devoted to understanding panic buying. There are two schools of thought. One is that egoists and narcissists are predominant in our populations and they refuse to yield control over their environments.

The other, less judgmental approach, is that perceived crises fuel mass anxiety, and queuing at a servo for an hour before hitting the bowser creates a sense of calm, even if there’s some biffo coming for any queue jumpers.

In other words, we live in grim times and one is compelled to do something. Panic buying is something. So, let’s do that.

Another theory to explain panic buying, one of my own, is that quite a lot of us might be a bit stupid.
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Well Queenslanders and southern Welsh biff over a football
Why not have fun in the supermarket over a roll of trout paper?
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Reply #229 - Mar 12th, 2026 at 10:12am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2026 at 3:18pm:
Just listened to Federal parliament -

both sides are blaming each other for the fuel crisis -
they really are puerile -
we deserve better.


Blame the rapist in the White (Supremacist) House.

He is 100% to blame.

Topped up my tank today - $2.30/litre   Sad



Prices in Perth range from $2.26 to $2.40 today.

No evidence of any panic buying yet.
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Reply #230 - Mar 13th, 2026 at 8:28pm
 
Yesterday Albo said that there was no fuel crisis.

Today Albo said that there is?
A lot can happen in 24 hours?
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https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/government-scrambles-...

“ Government scrambles to ease Australian petrol shortages, but is not considering cut to fuel excise or GST, even as prices soar”


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Topped up tonight -  paid $2.40  per litre  for 98 Octane.

The petrol station was busy - had to queue.
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Someone made an interesting point today about all these idiots who are hoarding fuel at home.

Might be a good idea if they had a look at their home insurance policy (if they have one) because if the fuel catches fire and burns their house down then they may find out that their insurance won't cover it.

Yep, if I ran an insurance company I definitely wouldn't cover something like that.
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Carl D wrote on Mar 13th, 2026 at 11:05pm:
Someone made an interesting point today about all these idiots who are hoarding fuel at home.

Might be a good idea if they had a look at their home insurance policy (if they have one) because if the fuel catches fire and burns their house down then they may find out that their insurance won't cover it.

Yep, if I ran an insurance company I definitely wouldn't cover something like that.



yep - and petrol containers give off fumes.

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Chris Bowen a few days ago was saying there was no problem.

Now he is admitting to a problem and blaming it on farmers and the general public.

The actual blame is on him.

It seems like he has been more preoccupied with his role of being President of Negotiations for the 2026 COP31 in Turkey (who knows if it'll go ahead).

Honestly, the blame is on decades of Australian governments who have taken their eyes off of strategic sovereignty. They have been blinded since the fall of the Berlin Wall, thinking the global economy is all Australia needs.

Australia now only has two oil refineries, down from the eight we used to have. The reason? We could always get our fuel from Singapore.

But we just might not be able to do that in the coming months. Most of the oil which Singapore imports and refines comes from the middle east. Australia is reliant on Singapore finding different sources, instead of being reliant on ourselves.

It isn't like we lack the land to have our own strategic oil storage facility like in the United States. We could have such a facility with months and months of supply, slowly released and restocked being refined by all the refineries we closed down.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2026 at 9:32pm:
Topped up tonight -  paid $2.40  per litre  for 98 Octane.

The petrol station was busy - had to queue.


That is actually the problem. People panic buying petrol and forcing up prices. The amount of cars on the roads at the moment is ridiculous. If you need to go to the corner stores, walk.

Even though my car is used for work purposes, I make sure that I minimise the usage outside of work. If I have to drive to the supermarket for groceries, so be it. That is not unreasonable. But the amount of times I have walked down to the highway and watched "car enthusiasts" driving around and around for no reason other than to show off their cars is unbelievable. Have we Aussies really attained a narcissistic culture where we need to show off our cars?
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UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 4:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2026 at 9:32pm:
Topped up tonight -  paid $2.40  per litre  for 98 Octane.

The petrol station was busy - had to queue.


That is actually the problem. People panic buying petrol and forcing up prices. The amount of cars on the roads at the moment is ridiculous. If you need to go to the corner stores, walk.

Even though my car is used for work purposes, I make sure that I minimise the usage outside of work. If I have to drive to the supermarket for groceries, so be it. That is not unreasonable. But the amount of times I have walked down to the highway and watched "car enthusiasts" driving around and around for no reason other than to show off their cars is unbelievable.
Have we Aussies really attained a narcissistic culture where we need to show off our cars?



Yes - plenty of V8 boys on the road yesterday.
Beautiful cars with mag wheels - mirror like paint -
huge fat tyres on the rear wheels.
They race up and down the highway making lots of noise.
You can smell the petrol in the exhaust fumes - they must be using
large carbies for more power than fuel injection?
They must be getting only 8 miles to the gallon or less?
I don't know how they would meet emission standards? -
how do they get an engineering certificate or any insurance?

In any case - they don't seem too worried about petrol prices.  Smiley
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It passed $3 at one petrol station today - highlighted.


https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-37.948718019376344/145.1697003501829

Map of today's petrol prices near Melbourne VIC:

United South Melbourne – E10 227.9, Unleaded 91 250.9, Premium U95 264.9, U98 273.9, Diesel Fuel 269.9, LPG 89.9

BP Clarendon – U91 239.9, U95 256.9, U98 264.9, P Diesel 279.9

7-Eleven Royal Melbourne – Unleaded 229.9, P Diesel 269.9, U98 253.9, U95 244.9

Reddy Express Carlton (VIC) – Unleaded 229.9, U95 258.9, U98 268.9, Diesel 269.9, LPG 78.9

BP Carlton – Unleaded 229.9, U95 241.9, U98 251.9, P Diesel 259.9, LPG 79.9

Ampol Foodary South Melbourne – Unleaded 229.9, U95 245.9, U98 254.9, P Diesel 270.9

7-Eleven Fitzroy – Unleaded 229.9, P Diesel 259.9, U98 253.9, U95 244.9

Shell South Melbourne – Unleaded 289.9, U95 244.9, U98 314.9, Diesel 269.9, LPG 99.9

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Someone suggested in the letters in yesterday's paper that maybe it's time for people to go back to working from home like they were doing with Covid to reduce the demand for fuel until things get back to 'normal' (whatever that is).

Less cars on the roads also means a lot less pollution but I'm pretty sure the fuel companies wouldn't like that and I'm definitely sure the owners of CBD office buildings wouldn't like it (losing rent if offices are empty).
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Carl D wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 7:52am:
Someone suggested in the letters in yesterday's paper that maybe it's time for people to go back to working from home like they were doing with Covid to reduce the demand for fuel until things get back to 'normal' (whatever that is).

Less cars on the roads also means a lot less pollution but I'm pretty sure the fuel companies wouldn't like that and I'm definitely sure the owners of CBD office buildings wouldn't like it (losing rent if offices are empty).


Someone I was speaking with yesterday suggested the exact same thing.

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Currently we pay 52.6 cents tax for every litre we buy, then on top of that we pay %10 gst (you actually pay gst on the tax you pay). When petrol prices rise so does government income.

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Mar 15, 2026

Sky News host James Morrow details multiple warnings of Australia being on the brink of an energy crisis.

“[John Blackburn] warned … we’ve lost so much of our refining capacity, now we basically have no refining capacity, so we have to import all of our refined fuels,” Mr Morrow said.

“He said if we don’t do anything about this and there is a crisis, and he specifically mentioned war in the Middle East … he said if it gets bad enough, society ceases to function.”



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Don't panic.


Mar 13, 2026


Australia's emergency fuel stockpiles will be tapped for the first time in four years to allow more supplies to reach our struggling regions, but it prompts questions over whether petrol rationing will return as the Iran war continues to affect supply.




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It's unsafe on the trains, trams and buses -

you'd get sliced up with a machete.

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$5 by Easter 🐣.

No jet fuel left for citizens ( Brisbane Ankia Wells well always be able to fly so long we pay for it).

Easter is officially cancelled unless you want to travel local and pay record prices.

Australia will “officially “ avoid a recession according to Dr death charming.

Australia  economy is in free fall.

No wonder the Iran  football team chose to return to their country at war rather than a life in poverty in Australia?
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Daves2017 wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 3:05pm:
$5 by Easter 🐣.

No jet fuel left for citizens ( Brisbane Ankia Wells well always be able to fly so long we pay for it).

Easter is officially cancelled unless you want to travel local and pay record prices.

Australia will “officially “ avoid a recession according to Dr death charming.

Australia  economy is in free fall.

No wonder the Iran  football team chose to return to their country at war rather than a life in poverty in Australia?



I'm hoping the oil tankers will start moving soon.


https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-889918

MARCH 15, 2026

Strait of Hormuz open to everyone but US, Israel,
Iranian FM Araghchi says
Other ships are free to pass, although many prefer not to due to “security concerns,”
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I sincerely hope  the war would end as soon as possible.

For everyone involved.

I just don’t know what is the end goal looks like.

I speculate that there must be boots on the ground sooner or later or the whole war will be pointless.

Our government has again been found completely useless in providing security for our nation. This time fuel security.

Anal Taylor should make a statement to explain his decision to base our emergency 90 day fuel reserve in the USA and explain the mechanism for its release and transportation to Australia.

If there is any???
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Daves2017 wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 8:38am:
I sincerely hope  the war would end as soon as possible.

For everyone involved.

I just don’t know what is the end goal looks like.

I speculate that there must be boots on the ground sooner or later or the whole war will be pointless.

Our government has again been found completely useless in providing security for our nation. This time fuel security.

Anal Taylor should make a statement to explain his decision to base our emergency 90 day fuel reserve in the USA and explain the mechanism for its release and transportation to Australia.


If there is any???



Yes - is it on the way here?

We have heard nothing.
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It looks like we don't have any fuel stored in Texas anymore.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-15/joyce-fuel-reserves-regrets/106456818

As of Friday, Australia held 36 days' worth of petrol, 29 days' worth of jet fuel, and 32 days' worth of diesel — above the minimum requirements established by the government in 2023.

Google AI:

The Morrison government purchased roughly 1.7 million barrels of oil in 2020, stored in the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to meet international obligations, which was subsequently released/sold in 2022.
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Albo sold off our reserves.
We're doomed -  don't panic.


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2022 Sale/Release: In 2022, this oil was released or sold.
While some debate the exact timing and responsibility,
reports describe this action as part of a collective global effort
to stabilize fuel prices during international supply shocks.


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Who would have ever guessed that the incompetant bloated Orange manic would push Australian petrol prices towards $3 per litre. I honestly didn't see this one comming.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 9:24am:
Albo sold off our reserves.
We're doomed -  don't panic.


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2022 Sale/Release: In 2022, this oil was released or sold.
While some debate the exact timing and responsibility,
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DON'T PANIC



So now we will run out of:
aviation fuel,
diesel &
petrol in less than 1 month?
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Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 9:32am:
Who would have ever guessed that the incompetant bloated Orange manic would push Australian petrol prices towards $3 per litre. I honestly didn't see this one comming.


It's less than $1 a litre in the US, you need to look closer to home to see why you are paying $3 a litre.
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Leroy wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:03am:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 9:32am:
Who would have ever guessed that the incompetant bloated Orange manic would push Australian petrol prices towards $3 per litre. I honestly didn't see this one comming.


It's less than $1 a litre in the US, you need to look closer to home to see why you are paying $3 a litre.



Fuel excise,
GST,
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I know. Cool eh.
It shows how incompetent both Parties have been since the 80s in dismantling our self sufficient abilities to provide for ourselves and sell our resources for max profit and become totally reliant on overseas producers and middlemen nations like Chinabby turning our country into a DOWN UNDER PEASANT consumer.

You know, the CIA put in Dictators in many countries to keep their nations weak while American Media put on a show about how evil they are.
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Look at the Kiwis - paying $3.48 for 98 Octane petrol:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360950652/whats-going-your-local-petrol-station-...


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NZ has been turned into a rich persons retirement home.
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Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:15am:
NZ has been turned into a rich persons retirement home.



I've been there -
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That's why Trump is Trump.
He doesn't want America being exploited by the old worlds as it has been. South America, Australia and Oceania have become servitudes of the Old Worlds.
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That's why Trump is Trump.
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South America, Australia and Oceania have become servitudes of the Old Worlds.



We are being treated like we were an African country -
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We are exploited by Africa as well through the Abos
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Anus Taylor was asked today about  his deal with Trump to store our 90 day emergency fuel in the USA and said ask Chris Bowen and immediately ask for the next question.

What is opposition leader Anal Taylor hiding?

He signed off on deal when minister in the failed Scomo government.

I suspect that there are no mechanisms in place to have our emergency supply of  oil activated or plans to transport it to Australia.

Australia mainstream media as well as  the uni party has failed the Australian people.

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The failure of all this is in the previous many decades of ruining our self sufficiency. The good thing about Trump's action has forced the issue.
Now we may see a return to that self sufficiency because of this.
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Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 11:33am:
The failure of all this is in the previous many decades of ruining our self sufficiency. The good thing about Trump's action has forced the issue.
Now we may see a return to that self sufficiency because of this.


I concur. We'll see the transition to renewable energy hastened.

The quicker we convert to solar, wind and battery power, the quicker we can hook up our EVs and get off this silly petrol nonsense.

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Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 11:33am:
The failure of all this is in the previous many decades of ruining our self sufficiency. The good thing about Trump's action has forced the issue.
Now we may see a return to that self sufficiency because of this.


You’re not suggesting we uncapped our existing oil wells and exploration of known oil reserves?

That would be bad for our environment???
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Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 1:34pm:
You spoiled self indulgent Lefties can't cope with crisis.
In a nation of convicts and 40,00 year Aborigine isolation.
During COVID Lockdowns. It was you Lefties that cried the loudest and couldn't cope.


Sounds like you don't concur, dear.

Oh well. During the covid lockdowns, we followed the rules entirely. They were bi-partisan, you silly old thing.

A nation of convicts and Boongs - just so.

We're here, you're there - and yes, we plan to be energy self-reliant by 2050.

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Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 1:34pm:
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In a nation of convicts and 40,00 year Aborigine isolation.
During COVID Lockdowns. It was you Lefties that cried the loudest and couldn't cope.


Ah, no.

It was the exact opposite.

Those on the left obeyed the rules and got on with it, while those on the right refused to comply.

You have a very short, clouded memory.


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we plan to be energy self-reliant by 2050.


Ah. The royal "we" or merely the other "we's"?  Wink

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Ah. The royal "we" or merely the other "we's"?  Wink

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You know. You exited the other thread when it got boring.

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Leroy wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:03am:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 9:32am:
Who would have ever guessed that the incompetant bloated Orange manic would push Australian petrol prices towards $3 per litre. I honestly didn't see this one comming.


It's less than $1 a litre in the US, you need to look closer to home to see why you are paying $3 a litre.


It was around $1.80 before Trumps war on petrol. Our local corupt conditions are a different problem.
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Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:06am:
Leroy wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:03am:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 9:32am:
Who would have ever guessed that the incompetant bloated Orange manic would push Australian petrol prices towards $3 per litre. I honestly didn't see this one comming.


It's less than $1 a litre in the US, you need to look closer to home to see why you are paying $3 a litre.



Fuel excise,
GST,
weak Aussie dollar.


And still around $1.80 before Trumps stupidity. Its a different problem. Or a different excuse ?
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Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 5:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:06am:
Leroy wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:03am:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 9:32am:
Who would have ever guessed that the incompetant bloated Orange manic would push Australian petrol prices towards $3 per litre. I honestly didn't see this one comming.


It's less than $1 a litre in the US, you need to look closer to home to see why you are paying $3 a litre.



Fuel excise,
GST,
weak Aussie dollar.


And still around $1.80 before Trumps stupidity. Its a different problem. Or a different excuse ?



It's worse than you think -
we were still paying high prices even though we
weren't paying to store vast reserves of oil and
we were getting the best prices out of Singapore
instead of paying megabucks to refine it ourselves.
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This crises may force both parties to bring back self sufficient Petrol and Oil production and ditch Singapore, China, etc.

We sold our Fuel Soul long ago and now it bites us in the arse.
If we were in direct conflict with China right now. We would be stuffed!!!
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Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 6:26pm:
This crises may force both parties to bring back self sufficient Petrol and Oil production and ditch Singapore, China, etc.

We sold our Fuel Soul long ago and now it bites us in the arse.
If we were in direct conflict with China right now. We would be stuffed!!!



We'll be out of fuel in 3 weeks.

Don't panic.
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My local supermarket Moles, is half out of toilet paper 🧻 already.
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Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 6:35pm:
My local supermarket Moles, is half out of toilet paper 🧻 already.



It's fear.

"the only thing we have to fear is fear itself,"  "nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror" that
paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.

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I guess a lot of people are sh##ting themselves of late Undecided
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Don't know what people are complaining about, my tank was almost empty and when I filled up it only cost $65.
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DON'T PANIC



‘There will be no groceries on shelves’: Australian fuel is desperately ‘running dry’







Mar 16, 2026  Peta Credlin

Political contributor Chris Uhlmann claims Australia is “running dry” on fuel.

“There’s a lot of blame to go around here, and it goes back more than two decades,” Mr Uhlmann told Sky News host Peta Credlin.

“There are many governments over many years that have left us in the position that we are in now.

“There will not be any groceries on the shelves, there will not be any planes in the sky.

“If we do not clear this up soon, then Australia is deeply exposed.”
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Don’t worry about the petrol.

Tim Tams could hit $30 a packet!

In all seriousness it’s time to “ try” and get OUR emergency fuel supplies in Australia from the USA.

I just don’t believe Albo would be able to ask Trump to give us our oil.

He would likely say no anyway.

“Fantastic. Great work Anal. Well done storing our emergency fuel supplies in Texas”.

At least  Scomo got a medal from Trump and a free Turkey dinner?
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Gee, Im glad Im retired.

Id hate to try and find 2 tanks of fuel every week just to get to work, like I used to.

But its playing havoc with my caravanning.

I have had to postpone one trip so far and next month isnt looking all that great either.

All because we have the worlds most stupid, corrupt and greedy grubberment on earth.
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Yes. It's going to stop all the Grey Nomads from getting around
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How high fuel price have to become before Australians would make Australian oil stay in Australia?
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We have hardly any oil in Australia - you silly Billy.
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freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 11:08am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 8th, 2026 at 8:33am:
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2026 at 1:44pm:
There is no "Brisbane price" for petrol. Look around.


It was an average of all the servos displaying prices on Petrol Spy.

So I did have a look around.

I wasn't posting the price at every damned servo. Roll Eyes

https://petrolspy.com.au/map/latlng/-27.4710107/153.0234489


You don't pay the average Brisbane price, any more than you pay the average state price. You pay the actual price at the servo where you fill up, and if the price bothers you, it is a very simple matter to fill up when you pass a cheap one. If you shop around, you would probably end up paying less in Brisbane.



Pedant. You don't drive around all day wasting more fuel looking for a servo that is 1 or 2 cents a litre cheaper.

They are all simialr price & at the moment it's outright profiteering.
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Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 5:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:06am:
Leroy wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 10:03am:
Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2026 at 9:32am:
Who would have ever guessed that the incompetant bloated Orange manic would push Australian petrol prices towards $3 per litre. I honestly didn't see this one comming.


It's less than $1 a litre in the US, you need to look closer to home to see why you are paying $3 a litre.



Fuel excise,
GST,
weak Aussie dollar.


And still around $1.80 before Trumps stupidity. Its a different problem. Or a different excuse ?



Iran has nothing to do with Australia having no fuel reserves, refining it's own oil and using it domestically & not exporting it.
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We have hardly any oil in Australia - you silly Billy.



We have enough for our own domestic use you knob.

And we actually export oil - 96% of it .... you silly billy.
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We have hardly any oil in Australia - you silly Billy.


Australia holds approximately 1.8 to 2.5 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, enough for about 4 years of domestic consumption plus oil shale.
Are you stupid to think that the Hormuz will be closed that long?
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We have hardly any oil in Australia - you silly Billy.


Australia holds approximately 1.8 to 2.5 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, enough for about 4 years of domestic consumption plus oil shale.
Are you stupid to think that the Hormuz will be closed that long?



The infrastructure to use shale oil would take 5 to 10 years to make
and cost $billions.     Roll Eyes
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We have hardly any oil in Australia - you silly Billy.



We have enough for our own domestic use you knob.

And we actually export oil - 96% of it .... you silly billy.



You don't know what you're talking about - you silly Billy.    Roll Eyes
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We have hardly any oil in Australia - you silly Billy.



We have enough for our own domestic use you knob.

And we actually export oil - 96% of it .... you silly billy.



You don't know what you're talking about - you silly Billy.    Roll Eyes


Coming from you that's a tad rich.  Roll Eyes

We have enough oil for own needs  - if we used it.

We need to build another refinery & start doing exactly that.
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We have hardly any oil in Australia - you silly Billy.


Australia holds approximately 1.8 to 2.5 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, enough for about 4 years of domestic consumption plus oil shale.
Are you stupid to think that the Hormuz will be closed that long?


Don't even go there - it's a filthy process and requires shyte loads of energy making it too expensive.

That's why every proposed shale oil project has been canned.
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That's why every proposed shale oil project has been canned.


Nope. Only in Victoria. USA, and others not holding to the Net Zero mantra are doing fracking well. There was one place blamed fracking for water contamination in Australia. The CSIRO debunked that claim.

Although the alarmists have said that they have links to fossil fuel.
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Atomic run vehicles, batteries, etc will put an end to such dependence.

Atomics is my prediction.
I mean, if it's the choice direction of future NASA probes...
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DON'T PANIC




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So in 7 days we have lost half our reserves. I guess the reserves were underestimated. People are like critters everywhere. They panic in herds and only slowly come to their senses. Roll Eyes

Pleading with people to not panic usually engenders panic.
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Petrol Stations have enjoyed the panic.
Regardless how things pan out, they've enjoyed the bonanza
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Regardless how things pan out, they've enjoyed the bonanza



Yep - making 50 cents or more per litre.
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Leroy wrote on Mar 15th, 2026 at 9:48am:
Currently  When petrol prices rise so does government income.


Realistically, the highways and urban roads should be impeccable.
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https://wentworthreport.com/2026/03/18/why-does-australia-only-have-30-days-fuel...


Why does Australia only have 30 days fuel when we solemnly agreed to hold 90 days?
Anthony Albanese.



By Craig Kelly.

Back in 2012, Australia first plunged into outright, shameless breach of its IEA treaty obligations — that sacred 90-day fuel reserve meant to shield the nation from fuel shortages, food chaos, economic collapse, and outright vulnerability in any global crisis.

Guess who was the Federal Minister for Infrastructure and Transport with the responsibility at the time?

Anthony Albanese.


Yes, that Albo — the smug, sanctimonious fraud now parading as Prime Minister, preaching “energy security,” “resilience,” and “protecting Australians” while we’re still the ONLY IEA member nation in chronic, decades-long breach. …

Albanese was Infrastructure & Transport Minister from 2007 to 2013. …

He had the portfolio. He had the power. He had the warning lights flashing. He did sweet FA. Zilch. Nada. The breach began under Labor’s watch with Albanese in the driver’s seat.

Now, as PM, he gaslights the nation during oil price spikes, Middle East wars, supply panics, and threats of actual shortages — pretending he’s some guardian angel, while the nation is starting to pay the penalty for his incompetence and failure.

The Abbot/Turnbull/Morrison Governments didn’t rectify the situation.
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Now with the latest interest rate rise on top of this fuel hike/crisis…. it’s obvious they are working against the average person!
Sure took advantage to slap that interest hike on all.

And I hear…it’s to stop a recession! Well guess who’s causing it to escalate!
How the hell does this work?

In the 90’s, the interest rates to 17% didn’t stop the “recession we had to have” !
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To be fair Labor took steps to rectify it. But these things work slowly. You have to buy incrementally so as not to distort the market, like a war would do. The libs followed suit, buying incrementally. And to date labor is still buying incrementally. So that they haven't reached the goal yet. Could either side have done it faster? Yes, but we don't know what that cost would have been. Roll Eyes
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That's why every proposed shale oil project has been canned.


Nope. Only in Victoria. USA, and others not holding to the Net Zero mantra are doing fracking well. There was one place blamed fracking for water contamination in Australia. The CSIRO debunked that claim.

Although the alarmists have said that they have links to fossil fuel.


Incorrect - a massive shale oil project at Aldoga near Gladstone has been canned.

As I said it's a filthy process that uses massive amounts of electricity.

Non conventional horizontal hydraulic fracking is for coal or shale seam gas .... nothing to do with shale Oil.

All the gas wells on the mid & western Darling Downs and Maranoa in QLD are coal seams fracked by this process.

It and another experimental process called Coal Seam Gasification have contaminated land & underground water in QLD.

Coal Seam Gasification is where they ignite underground coal seams and collect the gas emmissions.

The same environmental issues have been caused in the USA with shale seam fracking - we never seem to learn any lessons from that.

There have been several good documentaries put together about the fracking industry.

Some of which have been operating here in Australia.

Gasland (Josh Fox )2010.
Gasland Part 2
The Sky is Pink 2012
Frack Nation 2013
USA- Fracking for Europe(2023)

and a few more.

I'm no greeny & I'm for fossil fuel use i.e. coal and oil & gas from conventional drilling.

But I have serious concerns about Horizontal gas fracking, the chemical cocktail it uses & the danger it poses to the Great Artesian Basin.

Victoria has a banned horizontal fracking for gas & shale oil projects on the mainland.

That maybe the only thing good the Vic govt has ever done.
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