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Reply #855 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:12am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:00am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:39am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
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U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

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So, the war isn't over?

Why did Trump lie?

When did he say it was over? 

Almost every day for the last 100 days.


Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:00am:
And why did Iran shoot down a US helicopter over an international shipping lane?

Because the US is currently at war with Iran.

Trump started an illegal war with them back in February.  Remember?
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Reply #856 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:20am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:12am:
Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:00am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:39am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
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U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

@U_S_CENTCOM


So, the war isn't over?

Why did Trump lie?

When did he say it was over? 

Almost every day for the last 100 days.


Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:00am:
And why did Iran shoot down a US helicopter over an international shipping lane?

Because the US is currently at war with Iran.

Trump started an illegal war with them back in February.  Remember?


And little Rubio:

The US has completed its offensive operations against Iran, Rubio said on Tuesday, nearly a month into a fragile ceasefire. “The operation is over – Epic Fury – as the president notified Congress. We’re done with that stage of it,” Rubio told reporters at the White House.
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Reply #857 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:28am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:39am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
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U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

@U_S_CENTCOM


So, the war isn't over?

Why did Trump lie?


"In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins." — Ulysses S. Grant
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Reply #858 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:51am
 
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:28am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:39am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
Quote:
U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

@U_S_CENTCOM


So, the war isn't over?

Why did Trump lie?


"In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins." — Ulysses S. Grant


Oh.

So Iran has won.

Thanks for the clarification.
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Reply #859 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 12:51pm
 
I can't keep up with all of this.

Yesterday I read that Trump was saying that a peace deal with Iran was just "hours away" and the Strait of Hormuz will be fully reopened almost immediately.

Then later on he said that it will take two weeks (lol... again) for a deal to be reached.

And now we have helicopters being shot down and the US and Iran firing missiles or drones or whatever at each other again.

I hope someone isn't seriously considering making a movie out of all this because I'm predicting it would do worse in the cinemas than Melania did earlier this year.  Grin
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Reply #860 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 1:39pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 12:51pm:
I can't keep up with all of this.

Yesterday I read that Trump was saying that a peace deal with Iran was just "hours away" and the Strait of Hormuz will be fully reopened almost immediately.

Then later on he said that it will take two weeks (lol... again) for a deal to be reached.

And now we have helicopters being shot down and the US and Iran firing missiles or drones or whatever at each other again.

I hope someone isn't seriously considering making a movie out of all this because I'm predicting it would do worse in the cinemas than Melania did earlier this year.  Grin


The US lost Trump's illegal war on day one, and now nobody in the Trump regime knows how to get themselves out of it.

It's the worst military failure in US history, and was predicted by every man, woman, camera and TV.

Trump destroys everything he touches, without exception.


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Reply #861 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:51am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:28am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:39am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
Quote:
U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

@U_S_CENTCOM



So, the war isn't over?

Why did Trump lie?


"In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins." — Ulysses S. Grant


Oh.

So Iran has won.

Thanks for the clarification.


Quote:
Trump destroys everything he touches, without exception.


"Neutralized" is the word used.
...

That is why Trump and Iranians will have won and mullahs lost.

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Reply #862 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:54pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:51am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:28am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:39am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
Quote:
U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

@U_S_CENTCOM



So, the war isn't over?

Why did Trump lie?


"In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins." — Ulysses S. Grant


Oh.

So Iran has won.

Thanks for the clarification.


Quote:
Trump destroys everything he touches, without exception.


"Neutralized" is the word used.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2170/88Mzuy.jpg

That is why Trump and Iranians will have won and mullahs lost.


Not sure where you have been for the last few months, Mr Wood, but the US has already lost this illegal war.

And lost it in a huge way.  Huuuuuge!

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Reply #863 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:14pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
Not sure where you have been for the last few months, Mr Wood, but the US has already lost this illegal war.

And lost it in a huge way.  Huuuuuge!


Nonsense, creep.


For those who say that he has thrown in the towel – that Iran has “won” – I’d offer two observations.


First, it is an odd sort of winning a war when your adversary eliminates your navy, air force, most of your air defence capability, large swathes of your stock of missiles and drones along with the industrial capacity to produce them, not to mention two or three levels of your top leadership, all within a matter of days.
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Trump held Iran’s head underwater for six weeks. He pulled it up and let it sputter while he offered the mullahs an off-ramp. But Secretary of State Marco Rubio, responding to the press, is right. “The idea that somehow this President, given everything he’s already proven he’s willing to do, is going to somehow agree to a deal that ultimately winds up putting Iran in a stronger position when it comes to nuclear ambitions is absurd!”

Indeed. Trump is waiting impatiently while the Iranians prance and posture. The IRGC tried laying some mines in the Strait of Hormuz and: pow! The US took out the boats involved and destroyed a surface-to-air missile battery in Bandar Abbas that was targeting US warplanes. “These were defensive strikes,” a US spokesman said. “They do not indicate the ceasefire is over.”

What they do indicate is that Trump is serious about his terms. First, the Strait of Hormuz is an international waterway, not Iran’s territorial property. Shipping must be free to travel through it. Second, Iran cannot be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. A codicil to that imperative is that Iran must relinquish or destroy (under supervision) its approximately 900 pounds of highly enriched uranium. Third, Iran must stop funding terrorist proxies in Lebanon, Gaza – and elsewhere.

....

Opinions differ about the resilience of the Shia regime in Iran. I suspect that, like most totalitarian regimes, it presents to the world a seamless carapace of bluster. But the strength of that shell is deceptive. Once a few cracks appear, it may quickly shatter. I suspect that the catalyst for the process of disintegration will be provided not by bombs or blockades but by a stunning shift in perspective. On May 25, Trump took to Truth Social to reveal a plan that places the problem of Iran in a much wider field. He began with a nugget of sugar wrapped in a leaf of warning. “Negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran are proceeding nicely!” he wrote. “It will only be a Great Deal for all or, no Deal at all – Back to the Battlefront and shooting, but bigger and stronger than ever before.”

One of the signal diplomatic achievements of Trump’s first term was the Abraham Accords, a series of agreements that normalised relations between several Arab countries and Israel. The United Arab Emirates and Bahrain were the first to join. Now Trump is proposing that membership in the accords be mandatory, and that signatories include not only countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey and Egypt, but also Iran. “The Abraham Accords,” Trump noted, “have proven to be… a Financial, Economic, and Social BOOM, even during this time of Conflict and War.”

To say that Trump’s proposal is bold is to vastly understate the case. The hostility toward Israel in that part of the world is deep and abiding. One commentator reported that Trump’s ultimatum, made on a phone call in May, was met with silence. “The Arab leaders were so thoroughly stunned by the audacity of the request that Trump actually had to break the silence with a follow-up: ‘Are you still there?’”

What Trump has just done is to weave a net that binds the signatories not just to Israel, but to one another. Iran’s Supreme Leader has warned that within 15 years, Israel will cease to exist. It seems more likely that Trump’s intended extension of the Abraham Accords would create what Republican lawyer Mehek Cooke called “an accountability trap for the Gulf states, and Iran walked right into it.” You have probably noticed that the price of oil is plummeting while the market is on fire. This is what Trump calls winning. Cooke added: “If Iran violates the deal, the Gulf states aren’t just silent bystanders anymore. They’re co-signatories of the broader peace architecture. The political cost of looking away just went from zero to enormous.”

Roger Kimball




Kimball is much more insightful than CNN or your phalanx of TDS bozos like Pakman, creep.


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Reply #864 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:51am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 11:28am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:39am:
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
Quote:
U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

@U_S_CENTCOM



So, the war isn't over?

Why did Trump lie?


"In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins." — Ulysses S. Grant


Oh.

So Iran has won.

Thanks for the clarification.


Quote:
Trump destroys everything he touches, without exception.


"Neutralized" is the word used.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2170/88Mzuy.jpg

That is why Trump and Iranians will have won and mullahs lost.
Not sure where you have been for the last few months, Mr Wood, but the US has already lost this illegal war.
And lost it in a huge way.  Huuuuuge!


I've heard that lie before.

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To tell an untruth (Deception)Saying or writing something that is false with the deliberate intention of deceiving someone


And the truth is

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Reply #865 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
Not sure where you have been for the last few months, Mr Wood, but the US has already lost this illegal war.

And lost it in a huge way.  Huuuuuge!


Nonsense, creep.


Trump lost on day one, and now he has no idea what to do.

The only people who can get the US out of the mess they're in were all sacked by the rapist in the White House and the alcoholic currently failing at being Secretary of Defense.

This will go down as America's biggest military mistake/loss ever.
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Reply #866 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
Not sure where you have been for the last few months, Mr Wood, but the US has already lost this illegal war.

And lost it in a huge way.  Huuuuuge!


Nonsense, creep.


Trump lost on day one, and now he has no idea what to do.

The only people who can get the US out of the mess they're in were all sacked by the rapist in the White House and the alcoholic currently failing at being Secretary of Defense.

This will go down as America's biggest military mistake/loss ever.

Cheesy Cheesy


You are just parrotting your empty idiocy, creep, without ever giving any reasoned substance to your manic repetitions or refuting any facts that are put to you.

Idiotic, creep. But then what else to expect from a stupid liar like you. You will just repeat your empty, inane stupidities at the rate of 50 post/day.
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Reply #867 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:37pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 4:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:54pm:
Not sure where you have been for the last few months, Mr Wood, but the US has already lost this illegal war.

And lost it in a huge way.  Huuuuuge!


Nonsense, creep.


Trump lost on day one, and now he has no idea what to do.

The only people who can get the US out of the mess they're in were all sacked by the rapist in the White House and the alcoholic currently failing at being Secretary of Defense.

This will go down as America's biggest military mistake/loss ever.


I've heard that lie before.

Quote:
lie meaning
To tell an untruth (Deception)Saying or writing something that is false with the deliberate intention of deceiving someone


And the truth is

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Reply #868 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 8:55pm
 
You can't win a goddamned war with both hands tied around some goddamned transgender's tits while sucking up to endless whining minorities......

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Reply #869 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:13pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jun 10th, 2026 at 10:34am:
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U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces began launching self-defense strikes against Iran, at 5 p.m. ET today at the Commander in Chief’s direction, in response to yesterday’s downing of a U.S. Army Apache helicopter. The mission is a proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.

@U_S_CENTCOM


How could Iran down a US helicopter?

Trump has said, on many occasions, that their military has been "completely destroyed".

Please explain.

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