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Reply #600 - Yesterday at 9:55am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 19th, 2026 at 10:58am:
It appears that the US intends to take control of Hormuz, likely intending to act as the permanent gatekeeper of the Strait.

Next will probably be the denationalisation and US militarisation of the area to ensure that no nation-state other than the US controls the Strait.

With the petrodollar more threatened now than it has been in decades, the US will be seeking to control Iran's oil to enforce oil payments in US dollars... This was the same strategy that led to the Iraq war after Saddam threatened to accept only Euros for Iraqi oil.

With the Gulf states warning that they may have to turn to the Yuan rather than the dollar, China will also be looking to tone this down. China has learned, by long observation, what happens when a nation's currency is bound to oil and the gargantuan military overhead required to defend it.
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Reply #603 - Yesterday at 10:37am
 
tallowood wrote Yesterday at 8:19am:
tallowood wrote on Apr 19th, 2026 at 11:37am:
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According to the UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO), Iranian gunboats opened fire on a tanker in the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday after Tehran reimposed restrictions on the vital shipping route. The vessel’s captain reported that two boats belonging to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) approached the tanker about 37 km (23 miles) northeast of Oman and, without issuing any radio warning, allegedly fired on the ship, the UKMTO said in an online statement.

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The US Navy's intervention today against the Iranian vessel Touska is a response to yesterday's attacks by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps on commercial vessels in the Strait of Hormuz and is aimed at increasing pressure on Iran.


🇮🇷🇺🇸 Iran has requested significant sanctions relief from the US, as well as the release of $20 billion in assets.

CNN reported this, citing a source familiar with the negotiations between Washington and Tehran.
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Reply #605 - Today at 10:02am
 
TACO mischaracterises Trump's strategy style.

His 'strategy' is the adult equivalent of infantile destructive tantrum-throwing... 'If I don't get what I want to eat, I'll smash the plate'... If plate-smashing threats don't work, the child will likely defer action and focus on histrionic actions, e.g., head-banging, thrashing about, and verbal abuse.


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Reply #606 - Today at 10:06am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Today at 10:02am:
TACO mischaracterises Trump's strategy style.

His 'strategy' is the adult equivalent of infantile destructive tantrum-throwing... 'If I don't get what I want to eat, I'll smash the plate'... If plate-smashing threats don't work, the child will likely defer action and focus on histrionic actions, e.g., head-banging, thrashing about, and verbal abuse.





Yep.

He has the temperament of a tantrumming toddler.

But seriously, who didn't see this back down coming?

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Reply #607 - Today at 10:24am
 
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 10:06am:
who didn't see this back down coming?


No one... but not because Trump is 'chicken'...

He never intended to carry out the threat... it was a histrionic outburst to get his way.

His tactic is always to 'shock' people into compliance and bending to his will, by sheer outrageous verbalisations and acting out... as, seriously psychologically-precarious, children do to their care-givers.


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Reply #608 - Today at 12:30pm
 
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MARISKS on ​Monday issued an alert warning shipowners that unknown actors, claiming to represent Iranian ​authorities, had sent some shipping companies a message demanding transit fees in cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin or Tether, for “clearance”.
"These specific messages are a scam," the firm said, adding the message was ​not sent by Iranian authorities.
There was no immediate comment from Tehran.


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Reply #609 - Today at 2:14pm
 
Well - Iran will cntinue its tantrum over not being able to charge everyone to use the Strait - will still continue to give out mixed messages - will continue to hope that Allah will bring it victory out of the clouds - and will never change.

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Reply #610 - Today at 2:20pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Today at 2:14pm:
Well - Iran will cntinue its tantrum over not being able to charge everyone to use the Strait - will still continue to give out mixed messages - will continue to hope that Allah will bring it victory out of the clouds - and will never change.

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Well - Trump will continue his tantrum over not being able to get out of a war he started and is losing badly - will still continue to give out mixed messages - will continue to hope that Jesus will bring him victory out of the clouds - and will never change.
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Reply #611 - Today at 2:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 2:20pm:
Well - Trump will continue his tantrum over not being able to get out of a war he started and is losing badly



How does one lose a war goodly? Wink
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Reply #612 - Today at 2:42pm
 
lee wrote Today at 2:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 2:20pm:
Well - Trump will continue his tantrum over not being able to get out of a war he started and is losing badly



How does one lose a war goodly? Wink


Do the opposite of what the rapist in the White House is doing.
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Reply #613 - Today at 2:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 2:42pm:
Do the opposite of what the rapist in the White House is doing.


So tell us why if Iran is winning so goodly, why they needed to fire on a ship, non-military, transitting the "open" straits of Hormuz?
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Reply #614 - Today at 3:07pm
 
lee wrote Today at 2:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote Today at 2:42pm:
Do the opposite of what the rapist in the White House is doing.


So tell us why if Iran is winning so goodly, why they needed to fire on a ship, non-military, transitting the "open" straits of Hormuz?


Who said Iran was winning?   Undecided


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