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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3165 Gender:	Re: Iran what next? Reply #330 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 7:49pm From the little I have read Iran has been very generous in their terms of accepting The USA surrender. Obviously the United States surrendered of Alaska as both war bounty and compensation from the losing side will be difficult for Trump to accept but honestly. What choice does he ha given furry utter failure?
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Reply #331 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 8:16pm

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Washington — The Senate on Tuesday rejected the latest Democratic-led effort to rein in President Trump on Iran as the U.S. and Tehran send conflicting messages about how the war might end.

The near party-line vote was 47 to 53, falling short of the simple majority it needed to advance. Every Republican except Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky voted against it, while every Democrat except Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania backed it.

Earlier this month, Democrats filed a handful of war powers resolutions to block Mr. Trump from continuing the military offensive against Iran without congressional approval. They vowed to continue forcing votes on the issue as a means of securing public testimony from Trump administration officials about the conflict.

Tuesday's vote on a resolution introduced by Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut is the third time since the conflict began on Feb. 28 that Senate Republicans have blocked efforts to challenge Mr. Trump's authority to wage war on Iran. Another vote last year in the wake of strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities was also unsuccessful.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-iran-war-powers-resolution-vote-trump/

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Reply #332 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 8:38pm

Daves2017 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2026 at 7:49pm:

From the little I have read Iran has been very generous in their terms of accepting The USA surrender.

Obviously the United States surrendered of Alaska as both war bounty and compensation from the losing side will be difficult for Trump to accept but honestly.

What choice does he ha given furry utter failure?

Yes. It's much like the PLO/Hamas accepting a UN forced concessions and $billions from Israel to keep the peace, etc.
While just laughing and saying as always "Death to Jews, Israel" with never ever having given concession in return.

Trump is just throwing wild cards on the table with his negotiations just to show the world what Terrorism is. He knows full well they'll say yes for the money, respite, whatever. But refuse any sincerity in them with absolutism.
Would you take a man at his word of surrender while refusing to stop aiming his gun at you?
Only a foolish doomed Lefty would.
Trump's negotiations are 'currently' bluff and his 4 of a kind are that he knows Iran will not CONCEDE anything other than to take Trump for a fool and hope for easy money, rearm themselves and attack again. They would rather die than concede respectfully.
In essence they are a dangerous murderous Psycho killer who will take you down with them at the last just to know you died.
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...and you can't afford to negotiate with that or you are dead.

Trump knows full well, there is NO NEGOTIATION.
Only their destruction - like Imperial Japan... sadly, without the option to nuke.
For even that wouldn't stop them. They value Death, over life.

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Reply #333 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 8:50pm

Judging by the sharp increase in US transport aviation activity to the Middle East, the Trump administration has already made a decision. Over the past 10 days, over 50 C-17 heavy transport flights to Israel and Jordan have been recorded.

The origins of the C-17s are significant. These were primarily Hunter Air Force Base, Fort Bragg Air Force Base, and McChord Air Force Base, which are home to both the 82nd Division itself and special forces units, including Delta Force, the 160th Special Operations Wing, and the 75th Ranger Regiment.

Given this, the likelihood of a ground operation (https://t.me/rybar/78754) increases significantly. And while the amphibious landing group will work specifically along Bandar Abbas and the Strait of Hormuz, the 82nd Division and special forces units will work in the direction of Kharg Island, as well as from the Iraqi border.

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Reply #334 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 9:12pm

What I've heard over HAM Radio. The mainstream Media arent getting the full story by Trump-Pisspot Pete. It's like they're unwittingly part of the bluff.
Probably because they would compromise and betray all efforts anyway.
Seems, and I hope I'm hearing all this right over the airwaves. Seems, USA is preparing for another level of engagement.

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Reply #335 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 10:39pm

82nd Airborne Ready force is in situ ..... be about a brigade size....

I doubt there will be any invasion - it's pressure to let the Ayatollahs know that continuing to stuff about will bring consequences. Remember Desert Storm? First the 101 was put in as a 'speed bump' - damned hard one, too ... then forces were built up behind that wall - more of a ghost fence really since any full-blooded Iraqi drive would go over them... but the REACTION to such an assault would be devastating.

Same here - forces in place... attacks on them are now viewed as attacks on the United States itself... and all that firepower is just waiting offshore ... including massive bomber strikes.

I expect the Ayatollahs to make a deal despite their endless rhetoric. that's what Trump is good at - he makes a deal they can't refuse and lets them feel good about it.

In another angle - he is doing a Nixon with North Vietnam.... sending signals (Nixon used Kissinger) that he was crazy and could do anything... but Kissinger might be able to talk him down if he had something to offer... good cop - bad cop. Trump is doing the same - look out - I'm a mad man like you.... eeek!

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Reply #337 - Mar 25^th, 2026 at 11:02pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 25^th, 2026 at 9:12pm:

What I've heard over HAM Radio. The mainstream Media arent getting the full story by Trump-Pisspot Pete. It's like they're unwittingly part of the bluff.
Probably because they would compromise and betray all efforts anyway.
Seems, and I hope I'm hearing all this right over the airwaves. Seems, USA is preparing for another level of engagement.

Trump has made a mistake but his ego won't allow him to admit it.
Instead he doubling down now -
placing ground forces in the region.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 56533 Gender:	Re: Iran what next? Reply #338 - Mar 26^th, 2026 at 12:36am You really think the Media has a clue what's going on don't you. If I was Trump, I would give the Media, that's always out to destroy him, as much bullshyte as possible. Afterall, they're Pro terrorism. 😆😂🤣
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Reply #339 - Mar 26^th, 2026 at 6:28am

An unknown factor is Iran's army morale:
'Signs of discontent, low morale, financial strain and desertion are spreading among parts of Iran’s security and military forces, Iran International has learned.

Members of the Special Units Command received a notice on Friday saying salary payments for some units had run into problems, according to people familiar with the matter. The delay marked the third time this year that wages for those forces are being paid late.

Following the delays, some personnel refused to attend pro-government gatherings, the sources said, causing disruptions in deployment in some major cities.'

The loss of air cover would add to the disfunction.

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Reply #340 - Mar 26^th, 2026 at 9:07am

Jasin wrote on Mar 25^th, 2026 at 8:38pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2026 at 7:49pm:

From the little I have read Iran has been very generous in their terms of accepting The USA surrender.

Obviously the United States surrendered of Alaska as both war bounty and compensation from the losing side will be difficult for Trump to accept but honestly.

What choice does he ha given furry utter failure?

Yes. It's much like the PLO/Hamas accepting a UN forced concessions and $billions from Israel to keep the peace, etc.
While just laughing and saying as always "Death to Jews, Israel" with never ever having given concession in return.

Trump is just throwing wild cards on the table with his negotiations just to show the world what Terrorism is. He knows full well they'll say yes for the money, respite, whatever. But refuse any sincerity in them with absolutism.
Would you take a man at his word of surrender while refusing to stop aiming his gun at you?
Only a foolish doomed Lefty would.
Trump's negotiations are 'currently' bluff and his 4 of a kind are that he knows Iran will not CONCEDE anything other than to take Trump for a fool and hope for easy money, rearm themselves and attack again. They would rather die than concede respectfully.
In essence they are a dangerous murderous Psycho killer who will take you down with them at the last just to know you died.
KAMIKAZE
...and you can't afford to negotiate with that or you are dead.

Trump knows full well, there is NO NEGOTIATION.
Only their destruction - like Imperial Japan... sadly, without the option to nuke.
For even that wouldn't stop them. They value Death, over life.

This is all just speculation and finger-sucking in the media. What's really going on there, and who's demanding it from whom, is a big question.
Right now, there's a contest of speculation. The battleground is info field, the target is the price of oil: the Americans are trying to lower the price with speculation, while the mullahs are trying to raise it.

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Reply #341 - Mar 26^th, 2026 at 9:53am

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Iran has threatened to open a new front in the war and disrupt the all-important Bab al-Mandeb Strait trade route if the US invades Kharg Island.

After effectively shutting down the Strait of Hormuz and choking 20% of the world’s oil supply shipments, Tehran warned that the passageway connecting the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden could be next if a US invasion occurs.

“If the enemy wants to take action on land in the Iranian islands or anywhere else in our lands or to inflict costs on Iran with naval movements in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman,” Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps sources told the Tasnim News Agency, “we will open other fronts for them as a surprise so that their action will not only be of no benefit to them but will also double their costs.”

https://nypost.com/2026/03/25/world-news/iran-threatens-to-take-control-of-strat
egic-bab-al-mandeb-strait-if-us-invades-kharg-island/

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Reply #342 - Mar 26^th, 2026 at 11:12am

chimera wrote on Mar 26^th, 2026 at 6:28am:

An unknown factor is Iran's army morale:
'Signs of discontent, low morale, financial strain and desertion are spreading among parts of Iran’s security and military forces, Iran International has learned.

Members of the Special Units Command received a notice on Friday saying salary payments for some units had run into problems, according to people familiar with the matter. The delay marked the third time this year that wages for those forces are being paid late.

Following the delays, some personnel refused to attend pro-government gatherings, the sources said, causing disruptions in deployment in some major cities.'

The loss of air cover would add to the disfunction.

Trump considers the man in charge of the entire Pakistan Military a good friend.
It's through him, any conversation with the Iranian Regime is achieved discreetly.
The Iranian Regime can't use mobile phones, internet and other compromised and monitored technologies. So interactive communications within the Regime itself is in a chaotic and inefficient manner for starters. All done by paper messengers beyond using pigeons yet. Grin

The only risk here is that the Pakistan Military leader might betray Trump
Because of a 'fellow moslem' thing.

Poor mainstream Anti Trump Media. Complaing that all they get off the Big Fella is lies. Grin

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7448 Gender:	Re: Iran what next? Reply #343 - Mar 26^th, 2026 at 11:39am Shipping traffic in the Strait of Hormuz is clearly visible (March 23-24) on marinetraffic. Vessels have begun passing more frequently, following the Iranian coast.
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