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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #120 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 4:51pm

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The JCPOA deal was working till Trump canned it.

It did nothing at all to stop Iran developing ICBMs and funding terrorist organisations throughout the region. Furthermore, prior to US withdrawal, Iran was not making the disclosures required under the agreement. The IAEA then started investigating undeclared materials from 3 sites. Although the investigation did not start until after US withdrawal, the production of the undeclared material obviously did. Finally, the deal only lasted 10 years anyway, and Iran was not signing up to anything that would stop it developing nukes once the deal expired. That 10-year period ended last year.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #121 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 5:07pm

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 4:51pm:

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The JCPOA deal was working till Trump canned it.

It did nothing at all to stop Iran developing ICBMs and funding terrorist organisations throughout the region. Furthermore, prior to US withdrawal, Iran was not making the disclosures required under the agreement. The IAEA then started investigating undeclared materials from 3 sites. Although the investigation did not start until after US withdrawal, the production of the undeclared material obviously did. Finally, the deal only lasted 10 years anyway, and Iran was not signing up to anything that would stop it developing nukes once the deal expired. That 10-year period ended last year.

ICBMs are not part of the IAEA inspections.
Note: - Israel doesn't accept any IAEA inspections at all - never did.

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The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspections focus on nuclear materials (such as uranium and plutonium) and facilities to verify they are used solely for peaceful purposes under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

Here is a breakdown of why ICBMs are not part of these inspections:

Scope of Mandate: The IAEA's mandate covers the "nuclear" component—the fuel cycle, reactors, and enrichment facilities.

Delivery Systems vs. Fuel: ICBMs are considered "delivery systems" or "ballistic missile programs," not nuclear fuel or material, and thus fall outside the scope of IAEA safeguards agreements.

Separate Verification Mechanisms: Inspections of ICBM launchers and missiles were formerly handled under bilateral arms control agreements between the US and Russia (such as START and New START), not by the UN nuclear watchdog.

Verification Methods: While the IAEA uses on-site inspections for nuclear sites, monitoring of missile programs (if covered by separate UN Security Council resolutions) typically relies on other intelligence methods.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #123 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:04pm

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 5:58pm:

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Note: - Israel doesn't accept any IAEA inspections at all - never did.

What does that have to do with Iran?

It would show good faith in negotiations.

Both countries/States should be inspected to
reduce the possibility of nuclear weapons ever being used.

Now - neither is being inspected - and we have a potential WW3 -
nuclear war is more likely than ever.
We have come too close before - already in 1973 and perhaps in 1967.
I was worried in 1991 - I thought Saddam had a nuke -
the way he thumbed his nose at the coalition of the willing -
42 countries kicked him out of Kuwait.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #124 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 5:58pm:

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Note: - Israel doesn't accept any IAEA inspections at all - never did.

What does that have to do with Iran?

It would show good faith in negotiations.

But why Israel? What not Australia? Or Russia? Or the USA?

Developing nuclear weapons is not a matter of fairness Bobby. We don't all get to have nukes just because Israel does. Israel has nukes. The USA has nukes. They are both stopping Iran from getting them. There is no point inspecting them if they have no compliance obligations.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #125 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:19pm

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 5:58pm:

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Note: - Israel doesn't accept any IAEA inspections at all - never did.

What does that have to do with Iran?

It would show good faith in negotiations.

But why Israel? What not Australia? Or Russia? Or the USA?

Developing nuclear weapons is not a matter of fairness Bobby. We don't all get to have nukes just because Israel does. Israel has nukes. The USA has nukes. They are both stopping Iran from getting them. There is no point inspecting them if they have no compliance obligations.

They are all inspected - Israel gets an exemption via the UN -
the USA always vetoes any attempt to force inspections.

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Australia is regularly inspected by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA),
with the IAEA consistently concluding that all nuclear material in the country remains in peaceful activities.
These inspections, facilitated by the Australian Safeguards and Non-Proliferation Office (ASNO),
include Physical Inventory Verifications (PIVs)
at sites like the OPAL reactor and complementary access to various locations.

https://www.ansto.gov.au/facilities/opal-multi-purpose-reactor

The OPAL reactor is Australia's advanced open‑pool lightwater reactor ... Lucas Heights NSW 2234.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #126 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 7:05pm

Back to reality of today.

I don't think it's possible to stop every country from developing nuclear weapons -
IAEA inspections or not.

What is more likely to happen is that the secret of what they are doing will get out -
as it would take say 2,000 people to be involved and it only takes one
of them to be a spy or someone saying too much when they're drunk etc.

The original Manhattan project in 1943 had the highest security ever -
but the entire project plans were in Russian hands from spying. Embarrassed

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #127 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:19pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 6:04pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 5:58pm:

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Note: - Israel doesn't accept any IAEA inspections at all - never did.

What does that have to do with Iran?

It would show good faith in negotiations.

But why Israel? What not Australia? Or Russia? Or the USA?

Developing nuclear weapons is not a matter of fairness Bobby. We don't all get to have nukes just because Israel does. Israel has nukes. The USA has nukes. They are both stopping Iran from getting them. There is no point inspecting them if they have no compliance obligations.

They are all inspected - Israel gets an exemption via the UN -
the USA always vetoes any attempt to force inspections.

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Israel Pakistan and India haven't signed the Nuclear Non Proliferation treaty they are not bound by it.

The IAEA don't inspect Pakistan or Indias nuclear weapons so why is it a big deal with Israel?

Iran signed the NPT they have violated it. You can't ask for help with nuclear for power then divert that for weapons the NPT forbids that.

Obamas deal wasn't working it was a disaster they hoodwinked him.

Iran recently admitted to 460Kg enriched Uranium enough for 11 bombs.
This came out in negotiations with Witkoff before Trump said stuff it and started bombing.

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The Deputy Speaker of the Iranian Parliament: “We tried to develop nuclear weapons, but couldn't keep it secret.”

The Islamic Republic is openly saying that they’re trying to develop nuclear weapons.

They’re literally saying it out loud.

Watch the video Bobby- https://x.com/EYakoby/status/2026884102838764002

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 117845 Melbourne Gender:	Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding? Reply #128 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:14pm Dear Baron, many blessings. I watched that video. My guess is that Iran already has at least one nuclear weapon.
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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #129 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:14pm:

Dear Baron,
many blessings.

I watched that video.
My guess is that Iran already has at least one nuclear weapon.

If they had one Israel would be toast.

Iranian official admitted they were trying to build nuclear weapons from day 1 and dopey leftists believe Obamas deal stopped them.

In Gordons thread on Iranian leader Dinner Jacket i posted a link where Mossad infiltrated a unit to track Mossad and pinched their nuclear dossier in 2018.
The head of that unit was a Mossad agent.
When Israel raised this back then some questioned if it was true turns out it was.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #130 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:41pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:14pm:

Dear Baron,
many blessings.

I watched that video.
My guess is that Iran already has at least one nuclear weapon.

If they had one Israel would be toast.

Iranian official admitted they were trying to build nuclear weapons from day 1 and dopey leftists believe Obamas deal stopped them.

In Gordons thread on Iranian leader Dinner Jacket i posted a link where Mossad infiltrated a unit to track Mossad and pinched their nuclear dossier in 2018.
The head of that unit was a Mossad agent.
When Israel raised this back then some questioned if it was true turns out it was.

If they had one Israel would be toast?

Israel can't assume that Iran doesn't have one.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #131 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 8:57pm

Some videos from inside Iran

IRGC base blown up
https://x.com/gigii_coo/status/2030296555547214164

People cheering as IDF and US blow up Islamic regime
https://x.com/AmirMiresmaeili/status/2029870829278810183

With underground bases once one bomb goes off it starts a chain reaction with bombs stored there
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Holy poo.

This *was* the IRGC’s underground Damavand missile base.

A facility in the east of Tehran that was used to store ballistic missiles and systems for air defence.

Listen to the laughter and jubilation of the Iranian people filming it 👏🏽

https://x.com/koshercockney/status/2029618879324889541

Whatever they blew up here was pretty big, a good account for other videos
https://x.com/mamlekate/status/2030069546384568617

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #132 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 9:00pm

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📞 This evening at 8, explosions occurred in Khorramabad
Imam Hussein Barracks next to Falak-ol-Aflak Castle
57th Brigade
84th Division
Police Station 16 Pashte
Governorate
Al-Ghadir Prayer Ground
Governor's Office
Friday Prayer Leader's Office

📞 More than 10 places in Khorramabad were hit

Governorate, two police stations, IRGC base near Falak-ol-Aflak Castle (unfortunately part of it was destroyed), Nomad IRGC Corps, Al-Ghadir Prayer Ground Khorramabad

📞 Greetings, several key points in Khorramabad city were hit—as far as I know, the area adjacent to Falak-ol-Aflak Castle was struck (they kept IRGC fortifications and equipment near this historical site),
Khorramabad Prayer Ground was hit,
Pashte-side police station was hit,
Imam Hussein Barracks was hit,
and other areas I'm not aware of

All in one wave of flights | Total 30 seconds of operation across 5 sorties
Sunday, March 8, 18:15

The IRGC's Imam Hussein Barracks under Khorramabad's historic Falak-ol-Aflak Castle was hit. Minor damage was done to the castle, but all the surrounding streets are filled with the shredded hands, feet, and bodies of terrorists.

https://x.com/mamlekate/status/2030750008723587524

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #133 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 9:04pm

Islamic regime officials hiding in hospitals, they did write the playbook for Hamas terrorists
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Translated from Persian
You motherbuggerers chanted all those boasts during the war, but when it comes down to it, they take cover in hospitals......

https://x.com/flamingo_irani2/status/2030741581985173537

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Tehran residents are already voicing their fury, chanting
“Death to Mojtaba”

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2030751262224830869

Marg bar Motjaba= Death to Motjaba

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