Australian Politics Forum - How are Iranians in Iran responding?

Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55794 Gender:	Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding? Reply #105 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 10:48am Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 10:36am: When has war in the Middle East ever led to peace? When will the USA ever learn? Rule of Rulers Mid-East: Military N.America: Politics Europe: Music Asia: Mathematics S.America: Religion Sahul-Aust: Art Africa: Sport Oceania: Food
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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #106 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:02am

Jasin wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 10:48am:

Rule of Rulers

Mid-East: Military
N.America: Politics
Europe: Music
Asia: Mathematics

S.America: Religion
Sahul-Aust: Art
Africa: Sport
Oceania: Food

Oceania: Historically, cannibalism was well-documented in Melanesia and Polynesia, particularly in Fiji (formerly nicknamed the "Cannibal Isles"), the Māori in New Zealand, the Solomon Islands, and New Guinea. In New Guinea, some practices persisted into the 21st century (e.g., in remote areas).

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55794 Gender:	Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding? Reply #107 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:05am Exactly Tallowood. The Food Industry is the biggest in the world and the Ruler of Oceania will always be the best fed.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55794 Gender:	Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding? Reply #109 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:18am The Chef, the Thief, the Wife, the Lover and Delicatessen are still prime viewing in Tahiti
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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #110 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:19am

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 10:43am:

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When has war in the Middle East
ever led to peace?

Every time there wasn't war Bobby.

For someone who keeps banging on about signs of the end times in the stock market, you seem remarkably unconcerned about Iran obtaining nukes.

Dear FD,
many blessings.
you do know that the 1973 war came close to using nuclear weapons?

The whole premise about Iran is false -
they could already have nuclear weapons - no one knows for sure.

At the same time - would other nuclear powers do nothing while
Tehran is reduced to rubble like Gaza?
Iran has Arab friends - Pakistan for one - Allah has the bomb too.
Trump is gambling with WW3 -
just like he accused Zelensky of doing.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #111 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:30am

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The whole premise about Iran is false -
they could already have nuclear weapons - no one knows for sure.

So wat does that mean? We shouldn't intervene, just in case? How do you think every other dictator in the world with his eye on nukes would respond to that?

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At the same time - would other nuclear powers do nothing while
Tehran is reduced to rubble like Gaza?

Yes. No-one wants Iran to have nukes, for the simple reason that they are crazy enough to start using them. Even the Iranians.

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Iran has Arab friends - Pakistan for one

You need to work on your geography Bobby.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #112 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:35am

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:30am:

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The whole premise about Iran is false -
they could already have nuclear weapons - no one knows for sure.

So wat does that mean? We shouldn't intervene, just in case? How do you think every other dictator in the world with his eye on nukes would respond to that?

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At the same time - would other nuclear powers do nothing while
Tehran is reduced to rubble like Gaza?

Yes. No-one wants Iran to have nukes, for the simple reason that they are crazy enough to start using them. Even the Iranians.

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Iran has Arab friends - Pakistan for one

You need to work on your geography Bobby.

Sorry - Iran has Muslim friends. Pakis.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #113 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:40am

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So wat does that mean? We shouldn't intervene, just in case? How do you think every other dictator in the world with his eye on nukes would respond to that?

We end up with an absurd situation that thinking another country might
have nukes will actually lead to a nuclear war.

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Yes. No-one wants Iran to have nukes, for the simple reason that they are crazy enough to start using them.
Even the Iranians.

nahh - Many countries could supply Iran with nuclear missiles:
Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea.

In 1973 it was rumored that Russia supplied Egypt with 6 nuke tipped scud missiles
when Israel started loading jet fighters with nukes.
After the war those missiles were taken back to Russia.

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #114 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:45am

They are on opposite sides of the Sunni-Shia divide. Iran struck Pakistan as recently as 2024. Pakistan also supported the Taliban prior to 9/11, which hardly endeared them to Iran. Even worse, Pakistan then cooperated with the US during their invasion. Today, Iran's interests on Afghanistan tend to align more closely with India than Pakistan.

But all this is beside the point. Since when did we care what Muslim countries think? The west created most of those countries.

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We end up with an absurd situation that thinking another country might
have nukes will actually lead to a nuclear war.

What do you think is more likely to lead to nuclear war - Iran being allowed to develop nukes, or aggressively preventing that?

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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #115 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:57am

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 11:45am:

They are on opposite sides of the Sunni-Shia divide. Iran struck Pakistan as recently as 2024. Pakistan also supported the Taliban prior to 9/11, which hardly endeared them to Iran. Even worse, Pakistan then cooperated with the US during their invasion. Today, Iran's interests on Afghanistan tend to align more closely with India than Pakistan.

But all this is beside the point. Since when did we care what Muslim countries think? The west created most of those countries.

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We end up with an absurd situation that thinking another country might
have nukes will actually lead to a nuclear war.

What do you think is more likely to lead to nuclear war - Iran being allowed to develop nukes, or aggressively preventing that?

Come on FD -
you reckon the Israelis & Yanks are not checking out what Pakistan is doing with its nukes?
24 hour satellite and human intelligence is my bet.
This is serious now.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52746 At my desk.	Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding? Reply #116 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 1:22pm I didn't say that Bobby. There is no risk-free option here, so no point pretending there is. What do you think is more likely to lead to nuclear war - Iran being allowed to develop nukes, or aggressively preventing that?
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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #117 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 4:18pm

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 1:22pm:

I didn't say that Bobby.

There is no risk-free option here, so no point pretending there is. What do you think is more likely to lead to nuclear war - Iran being allowed to develop nukes, or aggressively preventing that?

Making a deal would have been better.
Iran was going to allow inspections but it wasn't good enough
for Trump and Bibi.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52746 At my desk.	Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding? Reply #118 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 4:24pm Quote: Making a deal would have been better. How so? Do you mean the traditional deals, where Iran promises not to work on nukes, then breaks that promise, or a Bobby-is-off-with-the-fairies deal where Iran keeps its promises?
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Re: How are Iranians in Iran responding?
Reply #119 - Mar 9^th, 2026 at 4:39pm

freediver wrote on Mar 9^th, 2026 at 4:24pm:

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Making a deal would have been better.

How so?

Do you mean the traditional deals, where Iran promises not to work on nukes, then breaks that promise, or a Bobby-is-off-with-the-fairies deal where Iran keeps its promises?

The JCPOA deal was working till Trump canned it. Roll Eyes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action

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