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Reply #420 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 3:48pm
 
Reckon we should alert authorities about the Pro Terrorists on here.
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Reply #421 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 3:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 1:26pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 12:22pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:27am:
Just watched Trump's speech.

He's gunna knock them into the stone age - in the next 2 weeks -

destroy all their power plants -

no electricity in Iran -

is that a crime against humanity?


Deliberate and premeditated attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure are war crimes.




Not if they are also used by the enemy's military.

In any case, closing international shipping lanes to civilian traffic is a 'war crime'.


You're trying to muddy the water by half-remembering how the laws of armed conflict work and hoping nobody notices the gaps.

Yes, civilian infrastructure can become a legitimate military target if it is being used for military purposes, but that's only step one. It doesn't magically stop being civilian, and it doesn't give you a blank cheque to hit it. The principles of distinction, proportionality, and necessity still apply. That means you have to distinguish between civilian and military use, ensure the military advantage is concrete and direct, and avoid attacks where the civilian harm would be excessive relative to that advantage. Deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure because it's civilian, or with reckless disregard for civilian harm, is still a war crime.

So no, you don't get to flatten a power station, hospital, or port and shrug it off with "well maybe the military used it too". That's not how it works, and pretending otherwise is either ignorance or bad faith.

As for closing something like the Strait of Hormuz, that's not automatically a war crime either. It can be unlawful depending on how it's done, particularly if it involves things like indiscriminate attacks on civilian shipping or violations of neutrality, but simply restricting or blockading a waterway during conflict isn't in itself the same category as deliberately targeting civilians. Different legal framework entirely.

Which is what makes your comparison so absurd. You're trying to equate a complex, conditional issue about maritime access with a leader openly talking about hitting civilian targets. One is a grey area governed by specific rules, the other is the exact scenario those rules are designed to prohibit.

It's not a serious argument, it's a deflection. And it's a pretty transparent one at that.
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Reply #422 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:02pm
 
Strangely, Pakistan is a US ally, is used for peace negotiating and is often at war with India and Afghanistan.
Pakistan has 170 nukes.
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Reply #423 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:23pm
 
chimera wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:02pm:
Strangely, Pakistan is a US ally, is used for peace negotiating and is often at war with India and Afghanistan.
Pakistan has 170 nukes.


It's almost as if, when Donald Trump is in charge of the United States, the only reliable deterrent against his "President of Peace" routine is a nuclear arsenal.

Ukraine gave up the world's third-largest nuclear stockpile under the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, in exchange for assurances from Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States. When Russia violated that agreement and invaded, Washington under Trump didn't just equivocate, it actively undermined Ukraine while echoing Kremlin talking points.

So the lesson writes itself, doesn't it. Don't disarm.

Look at Iran. Under Barack Obama, they entered the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, accepted intrusive inspections, and constrained their nuclear program. Trump tears it up, reimposes pressure, then circles back demanding the same concessions that were already on the table, only this time under the shadow of escalation and conflict.  He bombed them during active negotiations which led to this current war.

Again, the lesson is obvious. Compliance doesn't protect you, it exposes you.

Every country watching this, particularly those outside formal alliance systems, is drawing the same conclusion. Security guarantees are political theatre. The only credible insurance policy, when dealing with erratic leadership in Washington, when dealing with Trump, is nuclear capability.

He's making the world less safe because his ego and incompetence.

And this is the part that was entirely predictable. Critics warned, repeatedly, that Trump's volatility would erode trust, shred agreements, and incentivise proliferation. It wasn't exactly a complex forecast, more like an open-book test.

Yet here we are, watching the consequences unfold in real time, while some still contort themselves to defend the indefensible, refusing to acknowledge that this is precisely the instability they were warned about, that they called the left being "hysterical" for pointing out.

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Reply #424 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:34pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 12:22pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:27am:
Just watched Trump's speech.

He's gunna knock them into the stone age - in the next 2 weeks -

destroy all their power plants -

no electricity in Iran -

is that a crime against humanity?


Deliberate and premeditated attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure are war crimes.

From the President of Peace.

They can't claim it was bad intel, or AI targeting anymore.  He's announced his intention to do it.  Such a dumb ass.  He's left himself and his supporters nowhere to go if he doesn't TACO again.

Tired of winning yet?



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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/irans-military-vows-crushing-attack...


Iran’s military vows on Thursday to carry out “crushing” attacks against the United States and Israel after US President Donald Trump threatened to bomb the country into the “Stone Ages” in the coming weeks.

“With trust in Almighty God, this war will continue until your humiliation, disgrace, permanent and certain regret, and surrender,” says the military’s operational command Khatam Al-Anbiya in a statement carried by state TV.

“Await our more crushing, broader and more destructive actions.”
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Reply #425 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:38pm
 
Seems like it would be wise for Trump to TACO again.

Keep an eye out for stock market trades minutes before he surrenders.
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Reply #427 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 6:45pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 3:27pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 12:22pm:
Deliberate and premeditated attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure are war crimes.


Whether carried out by Iran itself or its proxies. Roll Eyes


No no, I think you'll find the US War Crimes Act applies to Americans.

But who knows? The big fella may care to put Supreme Leader on trial once he's taken Iran and captured the mullahs.

After all, I do feel he's a big fan of the rule of law.

You?
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Reply #428 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 6:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:34pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 12:22pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 11:27am:
Just watched Trump's speech.

He's gunna knock them into the stone age - in the next 2 weeks -

destroy all their power plants -

no electricity in Iran -

is that a crime against humanity?


Deliberate and premeditated attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure are war crimes.

From the President of Peace.

They can't claim it was bad intel, or AI targeting anymore.  He's announced his intention to do it.  Such a dumb ass.  He's left himself and his supporters nowhere to go if he doesn't TACO again.

Tired of winning yet?



Iran replies:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/irans-military-vows-crushing-attack...


Iran’s military vows on Thursday to carry out “crushing” attacks against the United States and Israel after US President Donald Trump threatened to bomb the country into the “Stone Ages” in the coming weeks.

“With trust in Almighty God, this war will continue until your humiliation, disgrace, permanent and certain regret, and surrender,” says the military’s operational command Khatam Al-Anbiya in a statement carried by state TV.

“Await our more crushing, broader and more destructive actions.”


You're prepared to give Donnie the benefit of the doubt, Bobby. If he hasn't fixed this up in another month, six weeks tops, that's it, you're done.

How do we know?

You said.
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Reply #429 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:03pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 4:38pm:
Seems like it would be wise for Trump to TACO again.

Keep an eye out for stock market trades minutes before he surrenders.


I know, Sad, but as Donnie said, the mullahs gave him a really nice present.

What's that? The fakers asked.

It's secret, Donnie said.

Yes, but can you give us an idea? They said.

Was it a medal? One asked.

No.

A gold bar?

No.

Some frankincense or myrh?

Don't be ridiculous, Donnie said. Trust CNN.

Anyhow, turned out it was two oil tankers Pete stole that were heading to Chi-na. Donnie told him to take the oil, so he obeyed.

So now Donnie's decided to pull out and leave the Strait in the hands of the cowards, America's Asian, European and Middle Eastern allies. Turns out he's decided to give the mullahs a present in return.

Yes, Donnie's just given them a fifth of the world's supply of oil, gas and fertilizers.

I think it's a smart move.

You?
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Reply #430 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:10pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 6:50pm:
You're prepared to give Donnie the benefit of the doubt, Bobby. If he hasn't fixed this up in another month, six weeks tops, that's it, you're done.

How do we know?

You said.



I said it would be a war crime.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #431 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:10pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 6:50pm:
You're prepared to give Donnie the benefit of the doubt, Bobby. If he hasn't fixed this up in another month, six weeks tops, that's it, you're done.

How do we know?

You said.



I said it would be a war crime.   Roll Eyes


Please explain?
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Reply #432 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:23pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:10pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 6:50pm:
You're prepared to give Donnie the benefit of the doubt, Bobby. If he hasn't fixed this up in another month, six weeks tops, that's it, you're done.

How do we know?

You said.



I said it would be a war crime.   Roll Eyes


Please explain?



Bombing civilian infrastructure into the stone age
could kill millions of civilians:

power stations for electricity,
desalination plants for water.
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Reply #433 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:26pm
 
"Trump strikes Iran" = "Allah bah bah"  Shocked
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Reply #434 - Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:27pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:23pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 7:10pm:
Big Donger wrote on Apr 2nd, 2026 at 6:50pm:
You're prepared to give Donnie the benefit of the doubt, Bobby. If he hasn't fixed this up in another month, six weeks tops, that's it, you're done.

How do we know?

You said.



I said it would be a war crime.   Roll Eyes


Please explain?



Bombing civilian infrastructure into the stone age
could kill millions of civilians:

power stations for electricity,
desalination plants for water.


Your DL doesn't care about civilians.

He doesn't care about anyone.

Trump and Hegseth are sick sociopaths - they masturbate to videos of school girls being slaughtered by US Tomahawk missiles.

You?
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