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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #75 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 7:21am

Since the monarch started the Commonwealth in 1900, it has had no power in Oz. The constitution gives it to the Gov Gen and all the people of the 1975 Whitlam sacking were Oz. The Q had no say then and kings can't do anything in the future.

It's only a sentimental issue as the monarch can only wave his hand as a Pom and the top Australian, within Oz and not representing Oz overseas.

It's like a giant-face balloon, it looks enormous but is totally empty.

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Reply #76 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 7:26am

chimera wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 7:21am:

Since the monarch started the Commonwealth in 1900, it has had no power in Oz. The constitution gives it to the Gov Gen and all the people of the 1975 Whitlam sacking were Oz. The Q had no say then and kings can't do anything in the future.

It's only a sentimental issue as the monarch can only wave his hand as a Pom and the top Australian, within Oz and not representing Oz overseas.

It's like a giant-face balloon, it looks enormous but is totally empty.

Monarchy has no real power even in Europe -
if they did the German and English Monarchy could have stopped WW1.
The German Monarchy could have told the German army to stop attacking France
and the English Monarchy could have told the POMs to stay out of the war.
They are all useless figureheads sucking money out of the common people.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15010 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #77 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 7:38am Kaiser Wilhelm was almost the dictator who arranged WWI. That makes him parallel to Mr Adolf. So monarchy is neither better nor worse as government. For that reason, the British king is on a tight dog-lead who stays at heel and never changes. In Oz, he is muzzled, chained and dragged along.
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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #78 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 8:42am

chimera wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 7:38am:

Kaiser Wilhelm was almost the dictator who arranged WWI. That makes him parallel to Mr Adolf. So monarchy is neither better nor worse as government. For that reason, the British king is on a tight dog-lead who stays at heel and never changes. In Oz, he is muzzled, chained and dragged along.

Kaiser Wilhelm was an idiot.
There was no valid reason for Germany to attack France in WW1.
France had a treaty with Russia but they didn't act on it.
The fact is that the British monarchy should have spoken to
him and convinced him to stop the crazy war -
after all they were all Royals of the same bloodlines.
Queen Liz was a hun born out of that generation.
Royalty really let the whole world down with their incompetence
which led to over 20 million deaths.
It's time they were thrown into the dustbin of history.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15010 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #79 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 8:53am Have you changed British history of the Civil War of 1651? The monarch is ruled by parliament.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 117585 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #80 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 9:01am chimera wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 8:53am: Have you changed British history of the Civil War of 1651? The monarch is ruled by parliament. The King is in charge of the armed forces: e.g. the Royal air force - RAF.
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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #81 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 9:31am

No he's not. He's a walking uniform which can't give orders.

'The last English king to fight in battle was George II at the Battle of Dettingen on June 27, 1743, during the War of the Austrian Succession.'

The Gov Gen gives 'Royal assent' to Bills which means obeying whatever Albanese orders her to do. Albanese is from Italy where Umberto II, born in 1904, was the last King of Italy, from May 9 to June 12, 1946. Albo is now king in Oz.

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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #82 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 9:52am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 6:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:50pm:

Easy.

We'll have an elected HOS who is an Australian citizen, living in Australia, rather than a foreigner born into the position living on the other side of the planet.

Why do you think it's okay for people to be born into positions of power and to have control over countries they don't even live in?

Who would you nominate for HOS? Undecided

Whoever was the Governor General at the time.

Or, a former Governor General.

Retired High Court judges.

It doesn't really matter in the long run.
All they do is rubber stamp legislation -
when have they ever said - no - I can't agree with that legislation?

So, who would you nominate for HOS?

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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #83 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 10:22am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:50pm:

We'll have an elected HOS who is an Australian citizen, living in Australia, rather than a foreigner born into the position living on the other side of the planet.

Why do you think it's okay for people to be born into positions of power and to have control over countries they don't even live in?

What power and control do you think the sovereign has over Australia and its people?

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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #84 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 10:30am

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 10:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:50pm:

We'll have an elected HOS who is an Australian citizen, living in Australia, rather than a foreigner born into the position living on the other side of the planet.

Why do you think it's okay for people to be born into positions of power and to have control over countries they don't even live in?

What power and control do you think the sovereign has over Australia and its people?

I think you just scored an own goal.

If you believe it's none, then why do we need a sovereign?

Why not remove King Charles and make the Governor General our official Head of State?

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Reply #85 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 10:36am

Frank wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 4:26pm:

The bedrock of Australia's legal existence is by the declaration of the sovereign, on advice by the Privy Counil*. In short, the sovereign's proclamation is the creative power, the 'let there be Australia' power.
Having such a constitutional power vested in a popularly elected person is a recipe for poliical conflict and dispute of mandates and legitimacy.

You think power to create Australia still exists?
Why?
Are you born each New Year?

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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #87 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 12:03pm

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:52pm:

Can you explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution?

To ensure accountability and provide stability.

How will it ensure accountability? Won't it make the PM unaccountable?

How would it provide stability in the case where a PM became unstable and the voting public, as well as their elected representatives, wanted to get rid of the PM to ensure stability?

Or when you say "ensure stability" did you mean job security for the elected PM, rather than recourse for a dissatisfied electorate?

Greg?

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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #88 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 2:02pm

chimera wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 9:31am:

No he's not. He's a walking uniform which can't give orders.

'The last English king to fight in battle was George II at the Battle of Dettingen on June 27, 1743, during the War of the Austrian Succession.'

The Gov Gen gives 'Royal assent' to Bills which means obeying whatever Albanese orders her to do. Albanese is from Italy where Umberto II, born in 1904, was the last King of Italy, from May 9 to June 12, 1946. Albo is now king in Oz.

Nonsense -

In 2012, to mark the Queen's Golden Jubilee, the now King Charles was promoted to
the highest honorary rank in all three services:
Admiral of the Fleet, Field Marshal, and Marshal of the Royal Air Force.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15010 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #89 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 3:51pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 2:02pm: King Charles was promoted to the highest honorary rank honorary Honoray head of state. He does nothin'
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