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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52611 At my desk.	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #60 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:52pm Can you explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution?
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Reply #61 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:55pm

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:02pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:44pm:

No Greg. The fundamental question is, can the republicans come up with a system that is actually better than the current one?

Ah.

That's easy to answer: yes.

Which system do you think is better Greg?

The one I posted.

Why could you not explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution?

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We wouldn't be picking a career politician as our HOS.

The entire nation would vote for someone who is not a politician?

We would choose someone who is not a career politician.

How many of our Governors General have been career politicians - four? Maybe five?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #62 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:57pm freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:52pm: Can you explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution? To ensure accountability and provide stability.
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Reply #63 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:58pm

So Gwoggy doesn't want a British political rulership over Australia, but can only muster the courage to blame the Royals instead.
In favour of an Americanised (neo-classival /archaic spaghetti Westernism) Presidential as Head of State (States?) .
Now where does that leave the National Federal level?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20014 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #64 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:59pm Hmm Elected politicians and accountability.
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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #65 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:03pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:58pm:

So Gwoggy doesn't want a British political rulership over Australia, but can only muster the courage to blame the Royals instead.
In favour of an Americanised (neo-classival /archaic spaghetti Westernism) Presidential as Head of State (States?) .
Now where does that leave the National Federal level?

There would be absolutely nothing "Americanised" about our Head of State.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.

A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #66 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:04pm lee wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:59pm: Hmm Elected politicians and accountability. No, not politicians. Our HOS would not be a career politician. Is our Governor General a career politician?
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Reply #67 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:03pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:58pm:

So Gwoggy doesn't want a British political rulership over Australia, but can only muster the courage to blame the Royals instead.
In favour of an Americanised (neo-classival /archaic spaghetti Westernism) Presidential as Head of State (States?) .
Now where does that leave the National Federal level?

There would be absolutely nothing "Americanised" about our Head of State.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.

A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law.

And chances are that he will be a little paedophile rapist of children with a harem of concubines.

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Reply #68 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:52pm:

Can you explain the point of putting the PM position into the constitution?

To ensure accountability and provide stability.

How will it ensure accountability? Won't it make the PM unaccountable?

How would it provide stability in the case where a PM became unstable and the voting public, as well as their elected representatives, wanted to get rid of the PM to ensure stability?

Or when you say "ensure stability" did you mean job security for the elected PM, rather than recourse for a dissatisfied electorate?

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Reply #69 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:50pm:

Easy.

We'll have an elected HOS who is an Australian citizen, living in Australia, rather than a foreigner born into the position living on the other side of the planet.

Why do you think it's okay for people to be born into positions of power and to have control over countries they don't even live in?

Who would you nominate for HOS? Undecided

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55580 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #70 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:28pm By right. If Lefties want a 'more australian' politically leader. Then it would have to be an Aborigine everytime under the Left's obsession with all things Aboriginal empowerment in EVERYTHING.
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Reply #71 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:50pm:

Easy.

We'll have an elected HOS who is an Australian citizen, living in Australia, rather than a foreigner born into the position living on the other side of the planet.

Why do you think it's okay for people to be born into positions of power and to have control over countries they don't even live in?

Who would you nominate for HOS? Undecided

Whoever was the Governor General at the time.

Or, a former Governor General.

Retired High Court judges.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55580 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #72 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:44pm Oz Republicans: crying about the British frying pan and jumping into the USA fire. ...now shouldn't all anti-Monarchists still work on the Kings Birthday public holiday?
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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 14998 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #73 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 3:09am Frank wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:11pm: I did post clause 2 Clause 3 was completed in 1900 by Q Victoria. It can't be repeated. Clause 2 is saying she has successors. They don't do clause 3 as it's completed. You abuse everyone as a cover for your disability.
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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #74 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 6:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 9:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 8:50pm:

Easy.

We'll have an elected HOS who is an Australian citizen, living in Australia, rather than a foreigner born into the position living on the other side of the planet.

Why do you think it's okay for people to be born into positions of power and to have control over countries they don't even live in?

Who would you nominate for HOS? Undecided

Whoever was the Governor General at the time.

Or, a former Governor General.

Retired High Court judges.

It doesn't really matter in the long run.
All they do is rubber stamp legislation -
when have they ever said - no - I can't agree with that legislation?

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