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Reply #30 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:50pm
 
If you don't want United KINGdom royals ruling over you, then maybe make TRUE BLUE JOHN WILLIAMS as our King 👑 or some other MASTER OF CEREMONY during a halftime footy break.
Of course the Abos will still reject that.

Maybe Gwoggy thinks ScoMo should represent Australia with his Ukelele at the next Eurovision??😆😆

That's how absurd these Republic whingings are.
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Reply #31 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:51pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:33pm:
When considering the model for a republic, the fundamental question is – do we want an Australian who we choose to represent us as Head of State or do we want an English aristocrat born into power with no connection to Australia to lead us for life from the other side of the world?


Again.
The BRITISH political sponsorship of Australia is represented by the Governor-General. The Prime Ministers have always been the USA's lapdog and groveller.
Or do you think we should follow the now defined German, the currently failing French and/or the Roman/Athenian Italian & Greek politics - which the USA chose to do by rejecting the British.

Maybe you should read up on why Hawaii kept the Union Jack on its flag. It's very wise, in regards to the benefits of colonisation.


It's very simple.

Instead of a foreign monarch being born into the position of our Head of State, we'll have an elected Australian as our HOS.

If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.

A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law.

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Reply #32 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:59pm
 
You are very SIMPLE indeed.
Ready Mr Music  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #33 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:09pm
 
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Reply #34 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:18pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:09pm:


Yep. Australian Media Leftism.
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Reply #35 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:51pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:33pm:
When considering the model for a republic, the fundamental question is – do we want an Australian who we choose to represent us as Head of State or do we want an English aristocrat born into power with no connection to Australia to lead us for life from the other side of the world?


Again.
The BRITISH political sponsorship of Australia is represented by the Governor-General. The Prime Ministers have always been the USA's lapdog and groveller.
Or do you think we should follow the now defined German, the currently failing French and/or the Roman/Athenian Italian & Greek politics - which the USA chose to do by rejecting the British.

Maybe you should read up on why Hawaii kept the Union Jack on its flag. It's very wise, in regards to the benefits of colonisation.


It's very simple.

Instead of a foreign monarch being born into the position of our Head of State, we'll have an elected Australian as our HOS.

If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.

A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law.




I thought you didn't like the American system of directly elected prez? 



Under your 'model' we would have TWO popularly elected leaders, one of them the leader of the party with the most seats in the lower house and therefore the PM of the government and one as the leader of the State, the person in whom constitutional power rest. 
The bedrock of Australia's legal existence is by the declaration of the sovereign, on advice by the Privy Counil*. In short, the sovereign's proclamation is the creative power, the 'let there be Australia' power.
Having such a constitutional power vested in a popularly elected person is a recipe for poliical conflict and dispute of mandates and legitimacy.

The beauty of the hereditary monarchy is that the head of state is a symbol, a 'personification;' of the country without any electoral mandate whatsoever.  None of  the 'people elected me and want me to do this' stuff.


*  2. Act to extend to the Queen's successors
The provisions of this Act referring to the Queen [Victoria] shall extend to Her Majesty's heirs and successors in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.

3. Proclamation of Commonwealth
It shall be lawful for the Queen, with the advice of the Privy Council, to declare by proclamation that, on and after a day therein appointed, not being later than one year after the passing of this Act, the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, and also, if Her Majesty is satisfied that the people of Western Australia have agreed thereto, of Western Australia, shall be united in a Federal Commonwealth under the name of the Commonwealth of Australia. But the Queen may, at any time after the proclamation, appoint a Governor-General for the Commonwealth.




The Australian Constitution is one of the oldest and most stable in the world. Why tinker with it? Just because Gough as dismissed and an election was called which he lost spectacularly? Hardly a reason to *uck up the constitutional and political order.

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Reply #36 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:31pm
 
Now if we had a pro-political (& military) right wing REAL Governor-General and not this Lefty ALP implant currently in.

It might be the case of "AND NOTHING WILL SAVE THE ANUS PRIME MINISTER"
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Reply #37 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:51pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:33pm:
When considering the model for a republic, the fundamental question is – do we want an Australian who we choose to represent us as Head of State or do we want an English aristocrat born into power with no connection to Australia to lead us for life from the other side of the world?


Again.
The BRITISH political sponsorship of Australia is represented by the Governor-General. The Prime Ministers have always been the USA's lapdog and groveller.
Or do you think we should follow the now defined German, the currently failing French and/or the Roman/Athenian Italian & Greek politics - which the USA chose to do by rejecting the British.

Maybe you should read up on why Hawaii kept the Union Jack on its flag. It's very wise, in regards to the benefits of colonisation.


It's very simple.

Instead of a foreign monarch being born into the position of our Head of State, we'll have an elected Australian as our HOS.

If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.

A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law.




I thought you didn't like the American system of directly elected prez? 



Oh dear   Roll Eyes

Like so many others uneducated on this matter, you're assuming that our President would be the same as the US President just because they're both called 'Presidents'.

They won't.

Moreover, we probably wouldn't even use the word 'President', as it confuses halfwits like yourself.

We would probably just use the term 'Head of State'.

So, one more time for the slow learners at the back of the class:

If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.

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Reply #38 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:56pm
 
The nation began with mad Geo III who was hallucinating, disoriented and manic.  It could have had Andrew if Charles died at polo.  There was John Kerr who got things wrong. President Xi may be right.
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Reply #39 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:00pm
 
Gwoggy doesn't realise that the 'celebrities' behind these Republican pipe ups are Anti - UK (which draws in Anti-British in regards to the political aspect)
but Pro-USA (Media Leftism) politics and that 'president' thing was a loyalty to the USA presidential.

A case of wanting an Americanised War of Independence against the English, etc, etc. Irish v English, etc, etc  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #40 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:52pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:51pm:
Jasin wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 3:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 2:33pm:
When considering the model for a republic, the fundamental question is – do we want an Australian who we choose to represent us as Head of State or do we want an English aristocrat born into power with no connection to Australia to lead us for life from the other side of the world?


Again.
The BRITISH political sponsorship of Australia is represented by the Governor-General. The Prime Ministers have always been the USA's lapdog and groveller.
Or do you think we should follow the now defined German, the currently failing French and/or the Roman/Athenian Italian & Greek politics - which the USA chose to do by rejecting the British.

Maybe you should read up on why Hawaii kept the Union Jack on its flag. It's very wise, in regards to the benefits of colonisation.


It's very simple.

Instead of a foreign monarch being born into the position of our Head of State, we'll have an elected Australian as our HOS.

If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.

A republic will strengthen those principles by adding a Head of State elected locally who can be held to account and help hold the three branches of government to account, further strengthening democracy, responsible government and the rule of law.




I thought you didn't like the American system of directly elected prez? 



Oh dear   Roll Eyes

Like so many others uneducated on this matter, you're assuming that our President would be the same as the US President just because they're both called 'Presidents'.

They won't.

Moreover, we probably wouldn't even use the word 'President', as it confuses halfwits like yourself.

We would probably just use the term 'Head of State'.

So, one more time for the slow learners at the back of the class:

If we become a republic, we would stay close friends and allies of the United Kingdom – that will never change.

We won’t change the Westminster system of government, the separation of powers, the rule of law, responsible government, free and fair elections, or the primacy of the will of the Australian people – these will continue as the core of our governance.




As always, you slimely, stupidly, dishonestly and on purpose, avoid the substance of my post and bang on about your own baseless assertions as if you represented the educated' take on matters. Ludicrous.

The similarity between the US prez and ours, whatever you might call him, would be that both are directly elected by the population. That is a huge political mandate.
Not even the PM is popularly elected, not state premiers, not High Court Judges. Even Senators are only popularly elected in each state and not by the entire country, the Senate supposedly being the States' House. So a directly, popularly elected prez/HoS/Big Chief/[your preferred title here] would have hugely greater political mandate than a mere PM or premier all of whom can be chaged by their own parliamentary party.
A popularly elected president would have an even greater popular mandate than the head of government.  That is not minimalist, that is a massive political change.

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Reply #41 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:10pm
 
chimera wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 4:56pm:
The nation began with mad Geo III who was hallucinating, disoriented and manic.  It could have had Andrew if Charles died at polo.  There was John Kerr who got things wrong. President Xi may be right.

George III died centuries ago but you are still with us, gesticulating disorientedly and hallusinating maniacally.

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Reply #42 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:16pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:07pm:
A popularly elected president would have an even greater popular mandate than the head of government. 

You and fd must be Arabs. Or you're so accustomed to abuse as conversation that your mind is locked. Try and read the words again, saying them out loud if needed. Or ask the kids next door.
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Reply #43 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:20pm
 
Political promises are like unicorn farts. They cease having meaning once published.
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Reply #44 - Feb 25th, 2026 at 5:30pm
 
You have experience with publishing unicorn farts? The farts had meaning for you before you published them? You have some unicorns?  You paid for them, their feed and the cost of publishing their farts? What do you call the publication? Why has it lost meaning?
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