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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #165 - Yesterday at 2:09pm

I am royalty -

the famous Robert the Bruce is an ancestor of mine.

Robert I, popularly known as Robert the Bruce, was King of Scots from 1306 until his death in 1329.
Robert led Scotland during the First War of Scottish Independence against England.
He fought successfully during his reign to restore Scotland to an independent kingdom
and is regarded in Scotland as a national hero.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14989 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #166 - Yesterday at 2:36pm Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 2:09pm: I am royalty - . With a generation of 25 years and 2 living descendants, the maths gets ridiculously large in 7 centuries.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117542 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #167 - Yesterday at 2:47pm chimera wrote Yesterday at 2:36pm: Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 2:09pm: I am royalty - . With a generation of 25 years and 2 living descendants, the maths gets ridiculously large in 7 centuries. I still have a certain percentage of Royal blood - I should get more respect.
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Reply #168 - Yesterday at 3:00pm

The inverse of the 2 ^28 is ridiculously small.
The same maths is for every dynasty in every country, including Egypt's kings from 5000 years ago.

'Due to the exponential growth of family trees, most people with European ancestry are likely descended from various European monarchs.' Bruce's line is around 4 times the UK population so people there have probably 3 of his family as ancestors if 1/4 poms migrated.

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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #169 - Yesterday at 3:11pm

chimera wrote Yesterday at 3:00pm:

The inverse of the 2 ^28 is ridiculously small.
The same maths is for every dynasty in every country, including Egypt's kings from 5000 years ago.

'Due to the exponential growth of family trees, most people with European ancestry are likely descended from various European monarchs.'

But I can feel it in myself -

I often feel so superior to other people - the common people.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14989 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #170 - Yesterday at 3:20pm It's the Trump effect, it's very common.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55578 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #171 - Yesterday at 4:04pm The higher the cultural privilege The lower the racial success.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117542 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #172 - Yesterday at 4:05pm chimera wrote Yesterday at 3:20pm: It's the Trump effect, it's very common. I also have a need to serve the common people - I like to help people - it must be my Royalty.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55578 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #173 - Yesterday at 4:12pm Royal bloods are inbred. Is there something you're not telling us Bobby?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117542 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #174 - Yesterday at 4:15pm Jasin wrote Yesterday at 4:12pm: Royal bloods are inbred. Is there something you're not telling us Bobby? No - it's only a mild case of Royalty - long ago.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14989 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #175 - Yesterday at 4:15pm As everyone has 3 royals in the family, you'll need to call each other Majesty. (if not, there's Kaiser, Pharaoh or Wang for Chinese).
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117542 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #176 - Yesterday at 4:26pm chimera wrote Yesterday at 4:15pm: As everyone has 3 royals in the family, you'll need to call each other Majesty. (if not, there's Kaiser, Pharaoh or Wang for Chinese). Chimera - are you Royalty?
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Sir Eoin O Fada

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Reply #177 - Yesterday at 4:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 8:30pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 7:42pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 7:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:42pm:

This explains it very well.

"A future president would, after a successful referendum, be the lawful successor to the king who is referred to in the coronation oath."

Those who have criticised Anthony Albanese for his plan to swear allegiance to King Charles are dead wrong. The Prime Minister and every other republican can confidently recite this oath without fear of hypocrisy. And the reason is this: the coronation oath is conditional.

That condition is contained in its last four words. It might look like Albanese will simply swear allegiance to Charles and his heirs.

But the real significance is that the oath does not finish there. If it did, it would amount to an unending pledge of fealty to the senior member of the house of Windsor.

The most important part of the oath is that it requires Albanese to swear allegiance to the King’s “successors according to law”. And that might not be Prince William.

Australia makes its own laws. So the coronation oath amounts to recognition that Charles holds office as king of Australia not because of divine right, but because the law of Australia says so.

So if this country decides to become a republic, Albanese and all other republicans who take the coronation oath this weekend could consistently swear allegiance to a future Australian republic.

This would be due to the fact that a successful referendum would mean that this country’s first president would become the successor to King Charles “according to law”.

What may happen in the future doesn’t alter
the fact that MsP swear allegiance to the current Monarch and if they do not then they don’t get paid, so Republicans falsely swear allegiance, and thus perjure themselves, for the money.
It’s a matter of principal not principle.

Ah.

It's principal now.

So you agree, they aren't breaking the law.

Glad we finally got there.

I think that you should look up the definition of ‘principal’.

I think you should answer this question:

If you truly believe they've broken the law, can you reference the relevant Act, and specific Section, which they allegedly could be charged under?

What's the charge and what's the penalty?

Try the Australian Constitution and the penalty is that they can be expelled from Parliament for lying to the Parliament.
How can we ever trust MsP who perjure themselves for money?

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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #178 - Yesterday at 4:37pm

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 4:26pm:

Chimera - are you Royalty?

Yes. Chimera was the symbol of Cimmerians who fought Greeks in 7th Century BC. The Chimera of Arezzo, Italy, dating to roughly 400 BC is a bronze sculpture depicting the mythical fire-breathing monster from Greek legend. It became the Beaufort Yale goat with lion tail on the roof of Windsor Castle as a Royal beast.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55578 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #179 - Yesterday at 4:43pm This whole topic is as silly as : we want to cut ties with UK Sport, let's have a political change
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