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Reply #135 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 3:21pm

chimera wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 12:57pm:

The Constitution states that 'the provisions of this Act referring to the Queen shall extend to Her Majesty's heirs and successors in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom.'

In 1973, the Royal Titles Act removed that and said the monarch is 'Queen / king of Australia'. The British monarch is dead to Australia and UK is now a foreign country. The parliament spoke, voted and sent the Bill to the Queen's Gov Gen. who joined the rebellion.

A bit late now to start the true faith of loyal servants who die for the emperor, Victoria, empire and St George.
'In Delhi’s Coronation Park on January 1, 1877, the British monarch Queen Victoria (1837-1901) assumed a new title: Qaisar-i Hind, the Empress of India'.

Qaisar is Hindi for 'Caesar'. Caesar of India, by George.

But not too late to expect MsP to not lie to the Parliament and People of Australia by swearing an Oath of Allegiance to the King of Australia that they know to be false.

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Reply #136 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 3:41pm

Why? It's been policy for years.
'Statute of Westminster 1931 gave effect to the 1926 declaration, removing the right of the British Parliament to legislate forAustralia without its consent and was adopted in Australia 1942.' So UK blocked the monarch's Acts from being obeyed and Oz did the same. Mutiny.

'The 1947 Independence Act for India was passed by the UK Parliament on July 18, 1947. Churchill objected to the name “Independence Bill,” insisting it was only Dominion Status. Clement Attlee refused to change it, respecting India's aspirations. Lord Mountbatten, the last Viceroy of India, was sent to transfer power, but accelerated the timeline to August 1947 from June 1948 to avoid a potential civil war.
George VI was the last Emperor of India from 1936 until the British Raj was dissolved in August 1947.'

UK Parliament destroyed the imperial monarchy. Howard's parliament plotted to allow the end of the monarchy in 1999.
Allegiance is to the king as he is directed by parliament, 'by law'. That authorises parliament to discuss anything about the king such as removal.

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Reply #137 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 3:58pm

Again. Royalty is NOT political.
So why is it used by Australian Republicans as an excuse for a political change?

Because Republicans are not truly political themselves. They're just Media celebrities and personalities that filter down from American Media for starters that is threatened by the fact that Australia didn't need a War of Independence against Britain, to exist as a successful country.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14989 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #138 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:07pm As you can read, they're not for political change. The PM system will remain, they say. The head is non-political. simples It's why the British-appointed Gov Gen and state governors were changed to Oz-appointed. It's why 'King of GB' became 'king of Oz'.
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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #139 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:29pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 12:10pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 11:36am:

Not all oaths are judicial oaths just becauae some are.

An oath of allegiance, a citiznship oath, an oath of office, a military oath - these are not judicial proceedig.

Perjury is a false oath.

Amen to that.
Politicians elected to Parliament are required to swear allegiance by the Constitution, the Constitution is Law, therefore when they knowingly swear falsely they break the law and, figuratively, spit in the face of all Australians.

No, they quite simply do not break the law.

However, if you truly believe that to be true, can you reference the relevant Act, and specific Section, which they allegedly could be charged under?

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Reply #140 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:42pm

This explains it very well.

"A future president would, after a successful referendum, be the lawful successor to the king who is referred to in the coronation oath."

Those who have criticised Anthony Albanese for his plan to swear allegiance to King Charles are dead wrong. The Prime Minister and every other republican can confidently recite this oath without fear of hypocrisy. And the reason is this: the coronation oath is conditional.

That condition is contained in its last four words. It might look like Albanese will simply swear allegiance to Charles and his heirs.

But the real significance is that the oath does not finish there. If it did, it would amount to an unending pledge of fealty to the senior member of the house of Windsor.

The most important part of the oath is that it requires Albanese to swear allegiance to the King’s “successors according to law”. And that might not be Prince William.

Australia makes its own laws. So the coronation oath amounts to recognition that Charles holds office as king of Australia not because of divine right, but because the law of Australia says so.

So if this country decides to become a republic, Albanese and all other republicans who take the coronation oath this weekend could consistently swear allegiance to a future Australian republic.

This would be due to the fact that a successful referendum would mean that this country’s first president would become the successor to King Charles “according to law”.

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Reply #141 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:44pm

In the event of a referendum which alters the constitution and removes the monarch, the decisions are all done legally under the monarch. The Bill is sent to the king's GG who signs that the monarchy is finished. Charles polishes his crown and the Oz section is removed (unless he rebels and won't obey parliament, which is unlikely at his age).

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Reply #142 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:47pm

chimera wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:44pm:

In the event of a referendum which alters the constitution and removes the monarch, the decisions are all done legally under the monarch. The Bill is sent to the king's GG who signs that the monarchy is finished. Charles polishes his crown and the Oz section is removed (unless he rebels and won't obey parliament, which is unlikely at his age).

"A future president would, after a successful referendum, be the lawful successor to the king who is referred to in the coronation oath."

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20013 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #143 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 4:33pm: The likely candidates would be the Governor General at the time of the change, retired Governors General or retired High Court judges. Ah, likely candidates.
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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #144 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:44pm

chimera wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:07pm:

As you can read, they're not for political change. The PM system will remain, they say. The head is non-political. simples

It's why the British-appointed Gov Gen and state governors were changed to Oz-appointed. It's why 'King of GB' became 'king of Oz'.

It is a political change. A Republic is a political concept.

Entertainers like Royalties to Court Jesters should just stick to their own sh#t.
If Australian Media celebrities wanna change - then create a OzVision contest and don't invite King Charles as guest.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14989 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #145 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:45pm There could be a photo of ex-king and new head together with knives well out of sight. New guy says 'call me The Bloke'.
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Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy
Reply #146 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:46pm

chimera wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 4:44pm:

In the event of a referendum which alters the constitution and removes the monarch, the decisions are all done legally under the monarch. The Bill is sent to the king's GG who signs that the monarchy is finished. Charles polishes his crown and the Oz section is removed (unless he rebels and won't obey parliament, which is unlikely at his age).

Even if we have a Political change in regards to our association with BRITISH politics.
We would still need an Institution of Master of Ceremony and an INDEPENDENT format of EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY to be represented.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14989 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #147 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:47pm Jasin wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:44pm: A Republic is a political concept. . Not in the Oz setting. The GG and king made not one policy in 126 years. It's only the accent : pom or strine.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14989 Armidale Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #148 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:50pm Jasin wrote on Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:46pm: We would still need an Institution of Master of Ceremony and an INDEPENDENT format of EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY to be represented. Australian : ceremony. yer jokin' The British landlords own the hardware do they?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 55578 Gender:	Re: Greens Call On Albanese To Cut Ties With Monarchy Reply #149 - Feb 27^th, 2026 at 5:51pm I don't think f#ckwit celebrities like Keaneally, Brown & Fitzsimmons realise the CONCEPT OF INDEPENDENCE. You become independent with one thing, you become independent with everything else and you stand alone from any ties ASSOCIATED with all other Regions. That's a lot of work and change.
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