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Reply #15 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:24pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

Bring back 19th century British justice -

the British knew what to do in their lawless colonies.

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Reply #16 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 6:55am:

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The men were taken to Riverstone Police Station where they are undergoing questioning.

Charges have not been laid.

The arrests come less than 24 hours after police discovered human remains near a golf club in Pitt Town in the north-west fringes of Sydney, as the search for Mr Baghsarian reached its eleventh day.

Police said the remains were not able to be positively identified as of yet, but were suspected to belong to Ms Baghsarian.

What kind of Usual Suspect are they? No names? No 'police arrested two men of Skumkasian appearance' or anything?

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Reply #17 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:36pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 6:55am:

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The men were taken to Riverstone Police Station where they are undergoing questioning.

Charges have not been laid.

The arrests come less than 24 hours after police discovered human remains near a golf club in Pitt Town in the north-west fringes of Sydney, as the search for Mr Baghsarian reached its eleventh day.

Police said the remains were not able to be positively identified as of yet, but were suspected to belong to Ms Baghsarian.

What kind of Usual Suspect are they? No names? No 'police arrested two men of Skumkasian appearance' or anything?

Why would they describe the appearance of the suspects if they've already arrested them? Undecided

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Reply #18 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:56pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

You know, I was thinking that very thought after seeing a reporter go into the high security cell of the guy that did the Bondi killings.
Without a shadow of a doubt, totally guilty and yet being fed, etc
I thought he is a waste of space, why should he live? Why not have a death row here like in the States?
Mind you. The jail area looks very grim and highly secured with nothing anyone would call is living a life except just survive, it’s a miserable existence and punishment in itself, capital punishment/death to them would be a relief, so even though it bothers me our tax is paying for looking after them, it’s still a hell on earth while alive. The security guards showed area of maximum security lockups and how each prisoner would be yelling…. it’s their punishment, what do they expect, a social life in prison? Privileges? Smug when planning and committing a crime, not so smug now are they!

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Reply #19 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57016 Gender:	Re: 85 yr old kidnapped man, Chris Baghsarian, dead. Reply #20 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:18pm One of them is a chunky swarthy https://x.com/NoticerNews/status/2026475302919221484 The other is a skinny whitey https://x.com/NoticerNews/status/2026475302919221484 So a fat wog and a skinny bogan, likely hired by the Alammedin gangster family, insh'allah.
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Reply #21 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

So only criminals get to kill people? -

the State can't kill them?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52612 At my desk.	Re: 85 yr old kidnapped man, Chris Baghsarian, dead. Reply #22 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:23pm That hardly sounds fair, hey Bobby?
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Reply #23 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

So only criminals get to kill people? -

the State can't kill them?

Nobody should be committing premeditated killings.

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Reply #24 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

So only criminals get to kill people? -

the State can't kill them?

Do you also want the State to rape, steal, kidnap, terrorise, and deal in illicit drugs?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117560 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 85 yr old kidnapped man, Chris Baghsarian, dead. Reply #25 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:32pm freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:23pm: That hardly sounds fair, hey Bobby? The criminals have more power than Judges - they order killings and they take part in killings.
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Reply #26 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

So only criminals get to kill people? -

the State can't kill them?

Nobody should be committing premeditated killings.

So you are against euthanasia? Abortion?

In any case, you 'argumemmt' against the deaath penalty is fallacious. You presume, without any justification, that the premise of your stance is beyond dispute, and then you just bang on and on, no matter what.

One of the BEST arguments for the death penalty is that iit takes the offender, his intentions and his act seriously, as an act of an equal who was and is fully in control of his own moral agency, choices and actions. There are well-recognised mitigating circumstances that are recognised as casuing diminished moral responsibility and to act otherwise. But if the capital offence is committed while in ful possession of moral and physical capacity, the death penalty is both necessary and even the only honourable course - honourable towards the victim, society and even the offender.

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Reply #27 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

So only criminals get to kill people? -

the State can't kill them?

Do you also want the State to rape, steal, kidnap, terrorise, and deal in illicit drugs?

Ummm… I think that’s already a given as our state (Vic) has shown merciless spending/wasting of tax payers money Angry

and how for instance, land tax has been risen astronomically …my husbands work place, just last week the boss told him his land tax went from $50,000 per annum to $250,000 in a blink!
That’s got to hurt, and now I understand why many factory runs they serviced have closed down, the business is only just surviving with no profit.

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Reply #28 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:55pm

Frank wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

So only criminals get to kill people? -

the State can't kill them?

Nobody should be committing premeditated killings.

So you are against euthanasia? Abortion?

In any case, you 'argumemmt' against the deaath penalty is fallacious. You presume, without any justification, that the premise of your stance is beyond dispute, and then you just bang on and on, no matter what.

One of the BEST arguments for the death penalty is that iit takes the offender, his intentions and his act seriously, as an act of an equal who was and is fully in control of his own moral agency, choices and actions. There are well-recognised mitigating circumstances that are recognised as casuing diminished moral responsibility and to act otherwise. But if the capital offence is committed while in ful possession of moral and physical capacity, the death penalty is both necessary and even the only honourable course - honourable towards the victim, society and even the offender.

There is no "BEST argument" for the death penalty in a civilised society.

The premeditated killing of a restrained prisoner is barbaric, and merely lowers the executioners to the same level as that of sociopathic criminals.

So, I can completely understand why you would be in favour of it.

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Reply #29 - Feb 25^th, 2026 at 4:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 3:08pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

I've long opposed the death penalty - but as I grow older I'm coming to the point of saying that there are some people who do not deserve to be here and are a definite negative ...

I agree 100%.

However, that doesn't justify the premeditated killing of restrained prisoners.

There is no crime or person - no matter how evil - that justifies a civilised society lowering themselves to that level.

So only criminals get to kill people? -

the State can't kill them?

Nobody should be committing premeditated killings.

The prisoners in high max security, had a choice to kill or not kill, so I wonder, (even though I reckon they can stay in a miserable cell for life, oh how the days must seem long!) since capital punishment is not within Australian laws, that these prisoners can be given a choice, a pill to end their own life?
It’s a choice and they chose to kill, so maybe extend the courtesy for them to do same?
But that’s a cop out. Why give that option … let them stay in that miserable existence.
Bet they never imagined how bad it would be when committing a crime?
More tv programmes should show it as it is, maybe excursions for young ones to see how unglam crime results are.
They do that in the states, have teens go in and prisoners talk to them about not making those mistakes.

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