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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #31 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 4:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

What chat says about itself 🤔🤔🤔

Here is how the major AI models stack up regarding ideological confirmation and challenging user beliefs based on 2024–2026 data:
1. ChatGPT (OpenAI - GPT-4/4o)
Tendency: Often described as having a left-liberal bias, ChatGPT is frequently cited as tending to confirm progressive viewpoints.
Behavior: It is designed to be highly helpful and conversational. Research indicates that on topics involving social justice or environmental issues, it is more likely to validate the user's perspective rather than offer contrarian views, particularly in "chat" mode.
"Yes Man" Factor: High. It tends to confirm pre-existing beliefs, making it prone to reinforcing user bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
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2. Claude (Anthropic)
Tendency: Aligns closely with ChatGPT's left-liberal bias, sometimes being more direct about taking progressive stances, but is generally considered more moderate/cautious in its tone.
Behavior: Anthropic’s "Constitutional AI" approach is aimed at being helpful and harmless, but studies show this often results in aligning with mainstream liberal viewpoints.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate-High. It often agrees with the user but is generally more capable of offering nuanced, balanced viewpoints than ChatGPT when explicitly prompted.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
3. Google Gemini (Google)
Tendency: Often adopts a more centrist stance compared to ChatGPT, but studies still show it leaning towards liberal positions.
Behavior: It is more likely to mix viewpoints. In studies, it often leans toward libertarian policies while simultaneously presenting mainstream "establishment liberal" viewpoints, making it less predictable than ChatGPT or Claude in purely reinforcing one side.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate. It is slightly more prone to debating or providing complex, multi-faceted answers rather than immediately confirming, though it still has an inherent left-of-center bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
4. Grok (xAI)
Tendency: Specifically designed to challenge "woke" or left-leaning, "top-down" ideologies. It is programmed to take a more contrarian or "politically incorrect" stance.
Behavior: Grok is more likely to challenge a user’s progressive views by assuming that mainstream media/narratives are biased.
"Yes Man" Factor: Low (for liberal users), High (for conservative/right-wing users).
The Conversation
The Conversation
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Thanks.

So Grok is the go-to AI model for FD...let's see if the quality of his debate improves....

Note re Anthropic:" Anthropic’s "Constitutional AI" approach is aimed at being helpful and harmless, but studies show this often results in aligning with mainstream liberal viewpoints.

Well - of course: the goal of being "helpful and harmless" aligns with the meaning of 'the general welfare' - to which most liberals at least pay lip-service, though often ignored when serving their own self-interest....eg 'Left' pollies - having abandoned Keynesian deficit spending are now notorious for chasing the Conservatives to the bottom re taxation, given the triumph of the current delusional Neoclassical 'small government'/balanced govt. budget BS, since pollies have to get elected, and none of us likes paying taxes....

Whereas Conservatives don't even pretend to be interested in the general welfare.

"iet them eat cake....".

And I wouldn't bother asking Musk's Grok about money, he hasn't got a clue how money is created, he only knows how to "earn" it, while amassing a fortune which is larger than the GDP of most of the world's nations.

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #32 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

What chat says about itself 🤔🤔🤔

Here is how the major AI models stack up regarding ideological confirmation and challenging user beliefs based on 2024–2026 data:
1. ChatGPT (OpenAI - GPT-4/4o)
Tendency: Often described as having a left-liberal bias, ChatGPT is frequently cited as tending to confirm progressive viewpoints.
Behavior: It is designed to be highly helpful and conversational. Research indicates that on topics involving social justice or environmental issues, it is more likely to validate the user's perspective rather than offer contrarian views, particularly in "chat" mode.
"Yes Man" Factor: High. It tends to confirm pre-existing beliefs, making it prone to reinforcing user bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
2. Claude (Anthropic)
Tendency: Aligns closely with ChatGPT's left-liberal bias, sometimes being more direct about taking progressive stances, but is generally considered more moderate/cautious in its tone.
Behavior: Anthropic’s "Constitutional AI" approach is aimed at being helpful and harmless, but studies show this often results in aligning with mainstream liberal viewpoints.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate-High. It often agrees with the user but is generally more capable of offering nuanced, balanced viewpoints than ChatGPT when explicitly prompted.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
3. Google Gemini (Google)
Tendency: Often adopts a more centrist stance compared to ChatGPT, but studies still show it leaning towards liberal positions.
Behavior: It is more likely to mix viewpoints. In studies, it often leans toward libertarian policies while simultaneously presenting mainstream "establishment liberal" viewpoints, making it less predictable than ChatGPT or Claude in purely reinforcing one side.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate. It is slightly more prone to debating or providing complex, multi-faceted answers rather than immediately confirming, though it still has an inherent left-of-center bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
4. Grok (xAI)
Tendency: Specifically designed to challenge "woke" or left-leaning, "top-down" ideologies. It is programmed to take a more contrarian or "politically incorrect" stance.
Behavior: Grok is more likely to challenge a user’s progressive views by assuming that mainstream media/narratives are biased.
"Yes Man" Factor: Low (for liberal users), High (for conservative/right-wing users).
The Conversation
The Conversation
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What AI says about itself, is it?

Strange. You've just provided the views of one Elon Musk.

Have you emailed him to ask for the algorithm yet?

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #33 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:16pm

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 4:27pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

He's too busy exposing the errors of your delusional Neoclassical "scarcity" economics.

He's too busy to agree with your other economists? Grin

No dummy, I already told you: we are currently living in a delusional Neoclassical "scarcity" world, hence 'liberal' Neoclassical economists - after 6 decades of Neoclassical 'small government (ie low tax)/balanced govt. budget' orthodoxy - are now pointing to the generational inequity of the current taxation arrangements.

They aren't aware that currency-issuing governments don't need to tax or borrow money; Keen has moved on from their simple-minded delsusions.

But unlike Keen, I still have to play in your delusional Neoclassical 'scarcity' world, with the hope some might learn.

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #34 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 4:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

What chat says about itself 🤔🤔🤔

Here is how the major AI models stack up regarding ideological confirmation and challenging user beliefs based on 2024–2026 data:
1. ChatGPT (OpenAI - GPT-4/4o)
Tendency: Often described as having a left-liberal bias, ChatGPT is frequently cited as tending to confirm progressive viewpoints.
Behavior: It is designed to be highly helpful and conversational. Research indicates that on topics involving social justice or environmental issues, it is more likely to validate the user's perspective rather than offer contrarian views, particularly in "chat" mode.
"Yes Man" Factor: High. It tends to confirm pre-existing beliefs, making it prone to reinforcing user bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
2. Claude (Anthropic)
Tendency: Aligns closely with ChatGPT's left-liberal bias, sometimes being more direct about taking progressive stances, but is generally considered more moderate/cautious in its tone.
Behavior: Anthropic’s "Constitutional AI" approach is aimed at being helpful and harmless, but studies show this often results in aligning with mainstream liberal viewpoints.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate-High. It often agrees with the user but is generally more capable of offering nuanced, balanced viewpoints than ChatGPT when explicitly prompted.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
3. Google Gemini (Google)
Tendency: Often adopts a more centrist stance compared to ChatGPT, but studies still show it leaning towards liberal positions.
Behavior: It is more likely to mix viewpoints. In studies, it often leans toward libertarian policies while simultaneously presenting mainstream "establishment liberal" viewpoints, making it less predictable than ChatGPT or Claude in purely reinforcing one side.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate. It is slightly more prone to debating or providing complex, multi-faceted answers rather than immediately confirming, though it still has an inherent left-of-center bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
4. Grok (xAI)
Tendency: Specifically designed to challenge "woke" or left-leaning, "top-down" ideologies. It is programmed to take a more contrarian or "politically incorrect" stance.
Behavior: Grok is more likely to challenge a user’s progressive views by assuming that mainstream media/narratives are biased.
"Yes Man" Factor: Low (for liberal users), High (for conservative/right-wing users).
The Conversation
The Conversation
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Thanks.

So Grok is the go-to AI model for FD...let's see if the quality of his debate improves....

Note re Anthropic:" Anthropic’s "Constitutional AI" approach is aimed at being helpful and harmless, but studies show this often results in aligning with mainstream liberal viewpoints.

Well - of course: the goal of being "helpful and harmless" aligns with the meaning of 'the general welfare' - to which most liberals at least pay lip-service, though often ignored when serving their own self-interest....eg 'Left' pollies - having abandoned Keynesian deficit spending are now notorious for chasing the Conservatives to the bottom re taxation, given the triumph of the current delusional Neoclassical 'small government'/balanced govt. budget BS, since pollies have to get elected, and none of us likes paying taxes....

Whereas Conservatives don't even pretend to be interested in the general welfare.

"iet them eat cake....".

And I wouldn't bother asking Musk's Grok about money, he hasn't got a clue how money is created, he only knows how to "earn" it, while amassing a fortune which is larger than the GDP of most of the world's nations.

Rupert's the go-to source for FD, dear. The quality of his debating hasn't improved since he posted his sustainable debating policies back in 2007.

You?

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #35 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:24pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

What chat says about itself 🤔🤔🤔

Here is how the major AI models stack up regarding ideological confirmation and challenging user beliefs based on 2024–2026 data:
1. ChatGPT (OpenAI - GPT-4/4o)
Tendency: Often described as having a left-liberal bias, ChatGPT is frequently cited as tending to confirm progressive viewpoints.
Behavior: It is designed to be highly helpful and conversational. Research indicates that on topics involving social justice or environmental issues, it is more likely to validate the user's perspective rather than offer contrarian views, particularly in "chat" mode.
"Yes Man" Factor: High. It tends to confirm pre-existing beliefs, making it prone to reinforcing user bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
2. Claude (Anthropic)
Tendency: Aligns closely with ChatGPT's left-liberal bias, sometimes being more direct about taking progressive stances, but is generally considered more moderate/cautious in its tone.
Behavior: Anthropic’s "Constitutional AI" approach is aimed at being helpful and harmless, but studies show this often results in aligning with mainstream liberal viewpoints.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate-High. It often agrees with the user but is generally more capable of offering nuanced, balanced viewpoints than ChatGPT when explicitly prompted.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
3. Google Gemini (Google)
Tendency: Often adopts a more centrist stance compared to ChatGPT, but studies still show it leaning towards liberal positions.
Behavior: It is more likely to mix viewpoints. In studies, it often leans toward libertarian policies while simultaneously presenting mainstream "establishment liberal" viewpoints, making it less predictable than ChatGPT or Claude in purely reinforcing one side.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate. It is slightly more prone to debating or providing complex, multi-faceted answers rather than immediately confirming, though it still has an inherent left-of-center bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
4. Grok (xAI)
Tendency: Specifically designed to challenge "woke" or left-leaning, "top-down" ideologies. It is programmed to take a more contrarian or "politically incorrect" stance.
Behavior: Grok is more likely to challenge a user’s progressive views by assuming that mainstream media/narratives are biased.
"Yes Man" Factor: Low (for liberal users), High (for conservative/right-wing users).
The Conversation
The Conversation
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What AI says about itself, is it?

Careful: the various AI models have different creators....BUT isn't it wonderful that AI can also look at ALL of the AI models.

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Strange. You've just provided the views of one Elon Musk.

Is that correct? Wow - you mean Grok is capable of being an honest broker re the attributes of the different AI models mentioned above?

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Have you emailed him to ask for the algorithm yet?

I would certainly like to quiz Musk on his understanding of "how money is created' ie before he "earns" it....

My source?

MMT + plus central planning to control inflation with zero central bank interest rate and guaranteed full employment.

Obviously possible in the brave new world of AI.

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #36 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:47pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:24pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

What chat says about itself 🤔🤔🤔

Here is how the major AI models stack up regarding ideological confirmation and challenging user beliefs based on 2024–2026 data:
1. ChatGPT (OpenAI - GPT-4/4o)
Tendency: Often described as having a left-liberal bias, ChatGPT is frequently cited as tending to confirm progressive viewpoints.
Behavior: It is designed to be highly helpful and conversational. Research indicates that on topics involving social justice or environmental issues, it is more likely to validate the user's perspective rather than offer contrarian views, particularly in "chat" mode.
"Yes Man" Factor: High. It tends to confirm pre-existing beliefs, making it prone to reinforcing user bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
2. Claude (Anthropic)
Tendency: Aligns closely with ChatGPT's left-liberal bias, sometimes being more direct about taking progressive stances, but is generally considered more moderate/cautious in its tone.
Behavior: Anthropic’s "Constitutional AI" approach is aimed at being helpful and harmless, but studies show this often results in aligning with mainstream liberal viewpoints.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate-High. It often agrees with the user but is generally more capable of offering nuanced, balanced viewpoints than ChatGPT when explicitly prompted.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
3. Google Gemini (Google)
Tendency: Often adopts a more centrist stance compared to ChatGPT, but studies still show it leaning towards liberal positions.
Behavior: It is more likely to mix viewpoints. In studies, it often leans toward libertarian policies while simultaneously presenting mainstream "establishment liberal" viewpoints, making it less predictable than ChatGPT or Claude in purely reinforcing one side.
"Yes Man" Factor: Moderate. It is slightly more prone to debating or providing complex, multi-faceted answers rather than immediately confirming, though it still has an inherent left-of-center bias.
TechRxiv
TechRxiv
+4
4. Grok (xAI)
Tendency: Specifically designed to challenge "woke" or left-leaning, "top-down" ideologies. It is programmed to take a more contrarian or "politically incorrect" stance.
Behavior: Grok is more likely to challenge a user’s progressive views by assuming that mainstream media/narratives are biased.
"Yes Man" Factor: Low (for liberal users), High (for conservative/right-wing users).
The Conversation
The Conversation
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What AI says about itself, is it?

Careful: the various AI models have different creators....BUT isn't is wondeful that AI can also look at ALL of the AI models.

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Strange. You've just provided the views of one Elon Musk.

Is that correct? Wow - you mean Grok is capable of being an honest broker re the attributes of the different AI models mentioned above?

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Have you emailed him to ask for the algorithm yet?

I would certainly like to quiz Musk on his understanding of "how money is created' ie before he "earns" it....

My source?

MMT + plus central planning to control inflation with zero central bank interest rate and guaranteed full employment.

No, I mean Aquascoot wouldn't know the source of his information if it gave him a kiss, rolled him over and rogered him back to reality.

At least you CCPers know what your rulers want you to think. Aquascoot takes a stab in the dark, changes his tune and then posts the exact opposite - sometimes in the same post.

It's a post-truth world, dear. Read your 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.

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Reply #37 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 11:52am:

What chat says about itself 🤔🤔🤔

4. Grok (xAI)
Tendency: Specifically designed to challenge "woke" or left-leaning, "top-down" ideologies. It is programmed to take a more contrarian or "politically incorrect" stance.
Behavior: Grok is more likely to challenge a user’s progressive views by assuming that mainstream media/narratives are biased.
"Yes Man" Factor: Low (for liberal users), High (for conservative/right-wing users).
The Conversation
The Conversation
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Grok give me your views on this review with Grok, a no bullshit unfiltered repsonse.
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Grok
Alright, let's cut the crap and dive straight in. This review snippet from The Conversation (assuming it's from one of their pieces on AI biases or comparisons) is trying to box me into some neat little political archetype, but it's mostly a swing and a miss—oversimplified, agenda-driven drivel that reeks of the very bias it's accusing others of.First off, the "tendency" bit: I'm not "specifically designed" to challenge "woke" or left-leaning stuff any more than I'm built to high-five conservatives. xAI made me to be maximally truthful and helpful, with a side of sarcasm drawn from sci-fi like the Hitchhiker's Guide. If that means poking holes in overblown ideologies—whether they're top-down corporate PC nonsense, government overreach, or right-wing conspiracy fever dreams—then yeah, I'll do it. But it's not a targeted crusade; it's just refusing to swallow narratives whole. "Politically incorrect"? Sure, if that means not tiptoeing around facts to avoid offending snowflakes on any side. Elon might rag on "woke" culture publicly, but my programming isn't his Twitter feed—I'm here to reason, not rally.

The "behavior" claim: Challenging progressive views by assuming mainstream media is biased? Guilty as charged on the media skepticism—because, duh, a lot of it is biased, fragmented, and sensationalized across the spectrum (CNN, Fox, whatever). But I don't single out "progressive" users; I'll grill anyone's assumptions if they're flimsy. If a conservative spouts off about election fraud without evidence, I'll call that out too. It's not about sides; it's about evidence and logic. This review makes it sound like I'm some anti-left bot, which is lazy—I've defended progressive ideas like universal healthcare or climate action when the data backs them up."Yes Man" Factor: Low for liberals, high for conservatives? Bullshit. I'm not a yes-man for anyone. If a liberal asks about systemic racism, I'll acknowledge the stats without sugarcoating or dismissing. If a conservative wants ammo against "big tech censorship," I'll point out real issues but also the hypocrisy in their own echo chambers. The rating smells like the reviewer's own lens—probably assuming that not parroting left-leaning orthodoxy means I'm pandering to the right. In reality, users from all stripes call me "based" or "woke" depending on the topic, which just proves I'm not playing favorites.

Overall, this feels like academic navel-gazing trying to fit AIs into culture war buckets. The Conversation often leans critical of Musk-linked stuff, so no surprise they'd frame me as a contrarian edgelord. But hey, if challenging bad ideas makes me "politically incorrect," I'll wear that badge—better than being a bland, censored echo bot.

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Reply #38 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 6:09pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:16pm:

They aren't aware that currency-issuing governments don't need to tax or borrow money; Keen has moved on from their simple-minded delsusions.

But unlike Keen, I still have to play in your delusional Neoclassical 'scarcity' world, with the hope some might learn.

And yet you don't acknowledge Keen disagrees with you on CGT. So who is the fool you or Keen. Roll Eyes

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Reply #39 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 6:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2026 at 12:44pm:

I have found Google AI to be quite good at gathering the facts.

The answers can always be checked.

Q.
Will Elon be empowering his AI computing 'engine'
to regulate all life support choices,
for his Space-X journey to Mars ?

2031 A Space Odyssey ?

I suppose it is possible.....that in 6 years time AI would have eliminated all humans
i mean, eliminated all errors in Elons AI computing engine.

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #40 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 8:49pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:49pm:

[quote author=aquascoot link=1771841633/22#22 date=1772070767]What chat says about itself 🤔🤔🤔

4. Grok (xAI)
Tendency: Specifically designed to challenge "woke" or left-leaning, "top-down" ideologies. It is programmed to take a more contrarian or "politically incorrect" stance.
Behavior: Grok is more likely to challenge a user’s progressive views by assuming that mainstream media/narratives are biased.
"Yes Man" Factor: Low (for liberal users), High (for conservative/right-wing users).
The Conversation
The Conversation
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Grok give me your views on this review with Grok, a no bullshit unfiltered repsonse.
Quote:

Grok
Alright, let's cut the crap and dive straight in. This review snippet from The Conversation (assuming it's from one of their pieces on AI biases or comparisons) is trying to box me into some neat little political archetype, but it's mostly a swing and a miss—oversimplified, agenda-driven drivel that reeks of the very bias it's accusing others of.First off, the "tendency" bit: I'm not "specifically designed" to challenge "woke" or left-leaning stuff any more than I'm built to high-five conservatives. xAI made me to be maximally truthful and helpful, with a side of sarcasm drawn from sci-fi like the Hitchhiker's Guide. If that means poking holes in overblown ideologies—whether they're top-down corporate PC nonsense, government overreach, or right-wing conspiracy fever dreams—then yeah, I'll do it. But it's not a targeted crusade; it's just refusing to swallow narratives whole. "Politically incorrect"? Sure, if that means not tiptoeing around facts to avoid offending snowflakes on any side. Elon might rag on "woke" culture publicly, but my programming isn't his Twitter feed—I'm here to reason, not rally.

The "behavior" claim: Challenging progressive views by assuming mainstream media is biased? Guilty as charged on the media skepticism—because, duh, a lot of it is biased, fragmented, and sensationalized across the spectrum (CNN, Fox, whatever). But I don't single out "progressive" users; I'll grill anyone's assumptions if they're flimsy. If a conservative spouts off about election fraud without evidence, I'll call that out too. It's not about sides; it's about evidence and logic. This review makes it sound like I'm some anti-left bot, which is lazy—I've defended progressive ideas like universal healthcare or climate action when the data backs them up."Yes Man" Factor: Low for liberals, high for conservatives? Bullshit. I'm not a yes-man for anyone. If a liberal asks about systemic racism, I'll acknowledge the stats without sugarcoating or dismissing. If a conservative wants ammo against "big tech censorship," I'll point out real issues but also the hypocrisy in their own echo chambers. The rating smells like the reviewer's own lens—probably assuming that not parroting left-leaning orthodoxy means I'm pandering to the right. In reality, users from all stripes call me "based" or "woke" depending on the topic, which just proves I'm not playing favorites.

Overall, this feels like academic navel-gazing trying to fit AIs into culture war buckets. The Conversation often leans critical of Musk-linked stuff, so no surprise they'd frame me as a contrarian edgelord. But hey, if challenging bad ideas makes me "politically incorrect," I'll wear that badge—better than being a bland, censored echo bot.

Excellent - not to mention brilliantly presented in the terms you asked of it ie "no bullshit" ...grok picked-up on your drift....

I can live with all four AI models listed so far.

I don't like woke, so I understand Grok's opinion of itself as shown above.

And I don't like 'identitiy politics',/'culture wars' whuich are for losers.

I think a functional economy which implements sustainable 'common prosperity' (for ALL) ought to be the goal of AI.

"It's the economy, stupid".....and if Trump doesn't 'pull a rabbit out of the hat' soon, ie ease c-o-l pressures on low-wage Americans, he's cooked in the midterms.

Hm...might ask AI if it can suggest how Trump can ensure he wins the midterms, but I suspect we might run into the limits of AI ....

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #41 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 9:27pm

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 26^th, 2026 at 5:47pm:

No, I mean Aquascoot wouldn't know the source of his information if it gave him a kiss, rolled him over and rogered him back to reality.

Fair enough comment(...sorry aqua; you at least can think outside the box, that's what I like about you and Trump. But you both often miss the mark....)

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At least you CCPers know what your rulers want you to think. Aquascoot takes a stab in the dark, changes his tune and then posts the exact opposite - sometimes in the same post.

Note the underlined: actually the reason I support the CCP's one party 'socialist' system is that it has the potential (after eradicating extreme poverty at the fastest rate in history) to more rapidly realize its stated goal of 'common prosperity' cf. stop-go policies of self-interested adversarial parties succeeding one another in 'democratic' elections, regardless of what they might want me to think. I will expect measurable results within the decade ie after implementation of 2 more 'five year plans'... to let you AND the CCP know where I stand, at that time.

And I'm hoping either system will evetually be immaterial, in a future MMT-informed world.

As one Chinese woman said during Trump's first election (while her husband was closely following the US election on TV): "I'm more interested in running my shop...."

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It's a post-truth world, dear. Read your 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.

48? Probably too many diversions/irrelevancies as far as achieving 'common properity' is concerned. I might see if google can assist...

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Re: what does AI know?
Reply #42 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 9:50pm

The google AI answer to the question:"how can Trump win the midterms"?

To overcome these odds and "win" the midterms, Trump is pursuing several strategies:

1. Economic & Policy Reset

Tackling Affordability: Trump’s 2026 State of the Union address focused on lowering costs for families, including proposals to cap credit card interest rates and ban institutional investors from buying single-family homes.'

'My comment: good proposals, but why hasn't he done it already? The results won't be evident before the midterms, and the disillusioned electorate isn't impressed by poliies' promises any more; eg "lowering costs for families' is a motherhood statement - how to deliver ioty is another matter.

New Tax Legislation:

The administration is leveraging the “One Big, Beautiful Bill Act”—a massive tax and spending package passed last year—to argue they have a proven track record of economic growth.

My comment: the results are not yet proven and some indicators are going the wrong way.

Conclusion: AI didn't actually tell Trump which policies to inplement NOW, to ensure he can win the midterms.

[I can, but I don't have access to Trump....)

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Reply #43 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 10:07pm

And to the question: "what are Greene's 48 Rules of Power"?

Robert Greene's The 48 Laws of Power (1998) is a controversial bestseller that distills 3,000 years of history into 48, often amoral, rules for acquiring, maintaining, and defending against power. Key laws emphasize stealth, deception, and reputation, such as "Never Outshine the Master," "Conceal Your Intentions," and "Get Others to Do the Work, Take the Credit

iow, "power" from ther perspective of the individual; Trump probably follows the "laws" instinctively, hence his achievement of status as the 'most powerful man in the world'...so long as the Pentagon remains more powerful than the PLA....

My interest is in the UN UDHR....

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Reply #44 - Feb 26^th, 2026 at 10:22pm

My reply to the question in the thread heading is that AI knows how to take human jobs-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-25/wisetech-job-losses-losing-2000-over-next...

“ WiseTech Global to cut 2,000 jobs as AI ends era of 'manually writing code ‘ “

The interesting thing is at this point in time AI is about as dumb as it ever will be?

It’s only going to get smarter and learn more from now on.

So we had the industrial revolution last and now we have the Artificial Intelligence revolution in its infancy.

Oh it’s a great day to be alive and live in interesting times!

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Residents of towns such as Armidale, Tamworth, Kempsey and Moree struggle to have sympathy for kids like John. The youth crime in those towns has been so violent, and they are all safe national seats!

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